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George_J
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A Word for Residual Pain?
« on: Feb 25th, 2007, 11:06am » |
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I see that I'm not the only one to have residual pain after a high-kip, lengthy CH. It seems to be a fairly common phenomenon.
Often, people will refer to it as a "shadow"--I know that I have--but a "shadow" (from my reading of the kip scale, anyway) seems to more properly describe a ramping CH that does not reach a high kip level.
The difference between a low-level hit and residual pain is pretty distinct in my experience. A low-level hit has a piercing quality (not as severe as a higher-level hit) and it seems to provoke the same sort of mounting anxiety as any ramping hit--will this be bad or not? Residual pain is different--most people (including myself) would describe it as a dull pain, like feeling beaten up or bruised on the inside. There doesn't seem to be the anxiety or the secondary tearing or sweating associated with it. It hurts, sure, but it doesn't compare to an actual hit. Then it gradually fades.
It seems to me that these are two distinct things. If they are, then a "shadow" does not accurately describe residual pain. Problem is, "residual pain" sounds a little clunky. Is there a zinger word we can use to describe residual pain?
"Bruiser"?
"Dullard"?
"Skulljob"?
I dunno. I don't like any of them. We've invented all the other terms we use, and I, for one, would like to see a vivid word that describes residual pain. Perhaps somebody can come up with something that'll enter the lexicon.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 2:23pm » |
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I call mine the CH hangover! 
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 3:04pm » |
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Shadows can cover a lot as it is the accompanying residuals or it can be the omen of things to come.
Shadow = the feelings or shadow of the beast. Lit from behind or ahead.
However I too often refer to it as a hangover.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 3:22pm » |
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 5:57pm » |
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For me shadowing is anything on the KIP scale between 1 & 4; 5 is where the real pain starts, anything below is annoying to varying degrees and is probably best described as a hangover where the level of the hangover depends on the amount you have drunk the night before IE had a real blinder binge of a night expect a KIP 4, had a couple more than you should have = feeling shitty.
Hangover sounds like the best description for me.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 6:00pm » |
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 25th, 2007, 6:38pm » |
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 2:04pm » |
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for me it starts with a nerve "taste"...like a little burning in my nose...
then what feels like a CH coming..
it will come in various strengths...
alcohol brinngs in on faster...but after keeps it (shadow not CH) away longer....i like the word shadow...sept when its strong... 
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 3:12pm » |
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If it aint broke, dont fix it. A shadow is a shadow. A strong shadow is a strong shadow. A hit is a hit. I dont treat shadows. I treat a hit,meaning the shadow is progressing, the heartrate and other autonomic nervous reactions are starting to happen.
Thats just me, others have their own limits and nomenclature. A rock is a rock.
Call it what you want georgej your allowed.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 3:49pm » |
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I have no decent suggestion...
The shadow and actual CH are neuropathic pain.
The 'afterburn' is much more like nociceptive pain.
I dunno, BBZ... the afterburn is different from a shadow.
For me, a shadow is a mild variant of a full CH.
But you know the feeling after a hit, when you are in the LazyBoy saying 'man, that fucking hurt'?
It is not the same... it does feel more like trauma, not unlike a bruise developing.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 6:46pm » |
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I like the term trauma cuz it does feel like you've endured a whoopin!
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 6:54pm » |
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on Feb 25th, 2007, 2:23pm, Guiseppi wrote:I call mine the CH hangover!
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 6:58pm » |
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Well into my cycle, my hits were so bad that the hangovers lasted for 5 hours or more. I got no sleep, the pain was 2/3 of a hit, almost dancing intense. My neuro had me take 4 Aleve before bed, to pre-medicate me. It did help substantially, the hangovers were a lot more bearable, and I was able to get sleep. I'd definitely consult with the physician/neuro before going this route though....it's probably rough on the liver.
Note this was for the hangovers only, not to treat the CH. I had Verap and Zomig for those.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 7:06pm » |
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 8:03pm » |
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 8:10pm » |
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I have called it the 'after effect' while trying to explain it to the wife. This is difficult to control pain for me. Last Sunday I had my 1st kip-9 of this new cycle that lasted 2hrs. The after or residual pain lasted 4 hrs. and wouldn't let me sleep.
I remembered reading here about coffee and thanks guys it worked. Still couldn't sleep but the pain left. I think there is a difference between the two types.
I want to thank all you great people on this site, you have given me hope with just knowing you understand and the light is always on. Bless you all, Skyhawk
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #16 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 8:18pm » |
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I've always called it the after-glow, but it's after-burn fom now on. Thanks, Lobster.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #17 on: Mar 1st, 2007, 2:48pm » |
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I would call it, parked, as in the demon is not in gear but parked and running. Then it must be so. Its not a shadow or a hangover but the demon in neutral gassing up for another run. 
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
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on Feb 25th, 2007, 3:22pm, Brewcrew wrote:
actually.........the burn!!!!
It always felt like acid reflux behind my neck up to the ear into the skull.........
We call it chemical burn
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #19 on: Mar 7th, 2007, 11:11am » |
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Yes i agree there should be a name !!!! i call them after shocks
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #21 on: Mar 11th, 2007, 12:43pm » |
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I think I would like them to be called the "scrumdidleyumptious". YES! Thats it... the scrumdidleyumptious.
I hearby declare that the brain bashing reverb will hence forth be called the "SCRUMDIDLEYUMPTIOUS"!
Just rolls off the tongue, don't it?
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
« Reply #22 on: Mar 11th, 2007, 12:50pm » |
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But Tony - that means something nice you wombat!
I think of shadows as forerunners or low kips but the "hangover" is how I think of the dregs of a hit that you just can't shake too
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
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OK LeLimey,
How about "scrumdidleynastyfarginbastage"...YES! Thats it again. I have done it.
I henceforth declare that the artist formerly known as "scrumdidleyumptious" will now be known as "SCRUMDIDLEYNASTYFARGINBASTAGE"!
Oh the irony. Oh the humanity.
No need for thanks. Don't applaud, just throw money.
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Re: A Word for Residual Pain?
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Tony - have I told you lately that you are nuttier than squirrel sheet?!
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