Author |
Topic: Can you close your eyes? (Read 898 times) |
|
George_J
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
White-Breasted Nuthatch
Gender: 
Posts: 4222
|
 |
Can you close your eyes?
« on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:04am » |
 Quote  Modify
|
Something that was briefly mentioned in another thread, that I've not seen mentioned here. Never really thought about it before, but....
Do you close your eyes during a hit? I can't--or at least, I can't keep them closed. Not a big deal, of course, but if it's a common denominator in CH, it might be worthwhile to know. Anything we can learn about this stuff is helpful, I think.
Could be it's just me, though.
Best wishes,
George
|
|
 IP Logged |
Ah! The foreigners put on such airs
Wearing the tangerine suits
And their harlequin eyes.
The pain they inspire
Draws in harmonica melodies
And the feathers of birds
Which flame up at their touch.
It all comes to light in the sheer
Debonair.
(Ellen)
|
|
|
MJ
New Board Hall of Famer
Gender:
Posts: 911
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:12am » |
Quote Modify
|
I can.
I often find myself with my hand over my eye holding it shut.
|
|
IP Logged |
MJ
|
|
|
Pellsey
New Board Newbie
Bugga it's back
Gender:
Posts: 33
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:23am » |
Quote Modify
|
I can open my eyes then I can't open my eyes, I can breathe then I can't breathe. I cry then I scream, I whimper then I get into a rage. I hit walls, I hit myself. I sit, I stand, I lie. I rock and I roll.
Man, during an attack I can do just about anything exept stop the damn thing.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Pinkfloyd
New Board Hall of Famer
comfortably numb
  
Gender:
Posts: 1406
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:27am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Jan 25th, 2007, 1:04am, georgej wrote:
Do you close your eyes during a hit? I can't--or at least, I can't keep them closed. George |
|
When I used to get attacks, my cluster eye wouldn't open for the duration even if I had to cover it like MJ.
The other one would have to stay open or I'd bang into walls and trip over furniture....or my dog.
The question of whether or not people can close them to sort of "relax"......I think we'd be more prone to keep at least one of them WIDE open in "I can't F*cking believe this pain," sort of amazement.
Bobw
|
|
IP Logged |
"Nothing is so firmly believed as what we least know."
"There is no passion so contagious as that of fear."
[Michel de Montaigne
www.clusterbusters.com
www.obscuredview.blogspot.com
|
|
|
Pinkfloyd
New Board Hall of Famer
comfortably numb
Gender:
Posts: 1406
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:29am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Jan 25th, 2007, 1:23am, Pellsey wrote:I can open my eyes then I can't open my eyes, I can breathe then I can't breathe. I cry then I scream, I whimper then I get into a rage. I hit walls, I hit myself. I sit, I stand, I lie. I rock and I roll.
Man, during an attack I can do just about anything exept stop the damn thing. |
|
As was said in another thread....
This about says it all.
I feel for ya Pells
Bobw
|
|
IP Logged |
"Nothing is so firmly believed as what we least know."
"There is no passion so contagious as that of fear."
[Michel de Montaigne
www.clusterbusters.com
www.obscuredview.blogspot.com
|
|
|
Pellsey
New Board Newbie
Bugga it's back
Gender:
Posts: 33
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:45am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Jan 25th, 2007, 1:29am, Pinkfloyd wrote:
Shine on, you crazy diamond 
|
| « Last Edit: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:48am by Pellsey » |
IP Logged |
|
|
|
froggy
New Board Veteran
Don't rain on my parade
Gender: 
Posts: 183
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 2:16am » |
Quote Modify
|
I just asked Tony (the husband), he said he is able to keep them shut. 
|
|
IP Logged |
froggy
|
|
|
artonio7
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Home since 11/18/06
Gender:
Posts: 2034
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 2:24am » |
Quote Modify
|
My left eye (attack side) usually slams shut and tears. I generally have to keep my hand pressed tightly against it. While, rocking and rubbing my head in a circular or figure eight motion. I'm not much of a pacer as much as a rock and writher.
Gawd it sounds like a dance.
with warm regards,
Tony
|
|
IP Logged |
Hope! http://artonio7.com
CH Pain Calendar Free Download
For artwork
|
|
|
froggy
New Board Veteran
Don't rain on my parade
Gender:
Posts: 183
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 2:32am » |
Quote Modify
|
Must be related to the "droopy" eye lid (that I've read about) when a CH is happening. Tony doesn't get that either. He does get the rest of the gifts that come with these things though.
You probably have read the "cluster traits" on the left hand column, that talks about it a little.
|
|
IP Logged |
froggy
|
|
|
BB
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Newbie
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 0
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 3:26am » |
Quote Modify
|
Hi George
I notice that during a cluster attack, Daniel always has his palm pushing on the left eye so its always closed. Whether the other eye is closed or open depends on whether he is walking around or sitting down. Mostly its closed too though ..
After the hit has gone, his left eye would be swollen shut for a at least an hour or so.
Annette
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
pattik
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Gender:
Posts: 2404
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #10 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 8:42am » |
Quote Modify
|
I'll concur with MJ on this one. Although it's been a while since my last bad hit, in the past I've had eyes opened or shut (ususally hand pressed to eye). Since I've normally been restless, it prudent to be able to see where I'm going.
Patk
|
|
IP Logged |
The voyage of discovery is not about seeking new landscapes, it's about having new eyes--Marcel Proust
|
|
|
Josh W
New Board Newbie
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
Gender:
Posts: 44
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #11 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 11:51am » |
Quote Modify
|
My wife calls it Popey eye. My ch side, left, is shut and the other wide open. I like to pace in a pitch black room. I still keep my right eye wide open in the dark. I guess my right eye trying to focus in the pitch black is another distraction method.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
drivin_blind
New Board Junior
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Gender:
Posts: 100
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #12 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 1:18pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Usually one eye closed, teeth gritting. I've had to convince myself by looking at a door jamb to make sure I'm not crossing my eyes. This usually happens when I'm trying to sleep. (yeah, fat chance) Sometimes when people ask me what my headaches feel like, crossing your eyes as hard as you can and holding them is part of the description. Does that make sense to anybody else?
|
|
IP Logged |
The true measure of a hero is when a man lays down his life with the knowledge that those he saves....will never know.
|
|
|
JeffB
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Wide open till you see God, then brake
Gender:
Posts: 2729
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 4:12pm » |
Quote Modify
|
For me, my eye on the hurting side is slammed shut. I do press with my palm while doing the dance on the floor. When the attack is over my hurting eye lid is swollen and I will still have the ice pack/cloth covering half my face and forhead. It's strange that you can't close your eyes.
|
|
IP Logged |
" It's been my experience that people who have no vices have very little virtues."
|
|
|
mcf69
New Board Old Timer
I am acutely aware of where my trigeminal nerve is
Gender:
Posts: 337
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #14 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 4:20pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Usually I have my hand over my eye, pressing on it to try to get some releif, so I never noticed. I'll have to pay attention during next one, if that's possible.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
thomas
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
"Hit like a phillips head into my brain."
Gender:
Posts: 3281
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #15 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 4:45pm » |
Quote Modify
|
My eye shuts of it's own accord.
|
|
IP Logged |
Religion and sex are powerplays. Manipulate the people for the money they pay. Selling skin, selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards. Triptans cause rebounds. Learn it, believe it, live it. I use triptans as the absolute LAST RESORT when treating my CH.
|
|
|
B14CK5H33P
New Board Old Timer
Circa '92
Gender:
Posts: 346
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #16 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 7:43pm » |
Quote Modify
|
My hit eye practically closes, and when open during an attack it is just a slit. Forehead and brows will be raised high, but the eyelid almost feels like it is being pulled down with a meat hook.
NEVER apply pressure to the eye or temple!! You already have enough pressure going on there to choke an elephant.
I go lower and press either into my neck or jawline to try and cut down bloodflow, and will sometimes press against the cheek bone and pull downward to try and cut down the blood flow. Just be careful and don't press too hard.
Peace,
Carl D
"When you close your eyes, do you feel the beast getting closer?"
|
|
IP Logged |
My show is Sundays from 7pm - 1am eastern on www.wildbunchradio.com
Reality Is For Those Who Lack Imagination - Ken Olsen (R.I.P.)
Won't give up it wants me dead, Goddamn this noise inside my head -NIN
|
|
|
George_J
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
White-Breasted Nuthatch
Gender:
Posts: 4222
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #17 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 8:03pm » |
Quote Modify
|
on Jan 25th, 2007, 7:43pm, B14CK5H33P wrote:
NEVER apply pressure to the eye or temple!! You already have enough pressure going on there to choke an elephant. |
|
I'm with you on that, Carl. I try not to press or rub anything around there anymore. I used to scrubble at it until the skin was raw, and try to shove my eyeball through the back of my head. Never did me any good. Still, when a really nasty one comes along, I can't help grinding away at it.
Thanks everyone. Sounds like it's just me on the eye-closing thing...even though the left eye's generally down to a slit and blurry, I feel like I have to keep my eyes open. Somehow it makes things worse to have them closed.
Best,
George
|
|
IP Logged |
Ah! The foreigners put on such airs
Wearing the tangerine suits
And their harlequin eyes.
The pain they inspire
Draws in harmonica melodies
And the feathers of birds
Which flame up at their touch.
It all comes to light in the sheer
Debonair.
(Ellen)
|
|
|
thebbz
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Ow,Ow,Ow
Gender:
Posts: 2181
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #18 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 9:05pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Pretty much the same here, palm, or ice pack and palm on the effected side.
 Hoppin stompin snottin flingin, left eye shut, and the right eye blinkin.
How's that curious george?
jb
|
|
IP Logged |
It wasn't me I didn't do it
|
|
|
Skyhawk5
New Board Junior
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Gender:
Posts: 98
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #19 on: Jan 25th, 2007, 9:14pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Don't feel so alone George. For me closing my eyes all the way makes the pain worse for some reason. I keep them open just a very small slit.
Skyhawk
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
SophiaK
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Junior
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 88
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #20 on: Jan 26th, 2007, 4:00pm » |
Quote Modify
|
With some HA's it hurts my eye to blink, like just regular opening and closing my eye, I also don't like to close my eyes when in pain, it does seem to make it worse, could be the distraction of what's going on around me. I do work on distraction as long as I can walk without stumbling.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
swimchica623
New Board Veteran
Get hit. Hit back harder. That's life.
Gender:
Posts: 218
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #21 on: Jan 26th, 2007, 9:07pm » |
Quote Modify
|
My left (cluster) eye will swell shut and especially with the worst ones stay swollen for up to half an hour afterwards. My right eye is usually open but I guess I close it every now and then, never really paid attention to it...it can open and close unlike my left eye which I have no control over what it does. I also usually am pressing into it, or hitting it...usually the only time my hand isn't isn't on it is if I'm banging my head against something else.
Lisa
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
BMoneeTheMoneeMan
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
In remembrance of KingCazman. RIP
Posts: 2082
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #22 on: Jan 29th, 2007, 10:00am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Jan 25th, 2007, 7:43pm, B14CK5H33P wrote:
NEVER apply pressure to the eye or temple!! You already have enough pressure going on there to choke an elephant.
|
|
Really? I apply a lot of pressure to the eyebrow and lower forehead area. Rubbing it with lots of pressure too. Its because of this, and also cause i splash cool water on my eye that i keep it closed. The other eye pops open from time to time just to see how much water i am getting all over the counter.
Also, I take my glasses off when i get hit. I cant see a damn thing anyway, so i figure I'll just keep my eyes closed.
|
|
IP Logged |
"Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool - can't get fooled again"
Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half the population is stupider than that.
|
|
|
Pfunk
New Board Newbie
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Posts: 48
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #23 on: Jan 31st, 2007, 1:40am » |
Quote Modify
|
Seems to me that the eye on the side whichis getting hit always flutters while it tears. I have recently tried to star some relaxtion techniques during hits and we all know how hard that is. I've just heard that the more you can relax, the lees intense pain you will experience. Like i said though, I'm "trying relaxation. Thus far I can take it for about 35-40 seconds before I'm up banging my head or hitting something or throwing(You know the drill.)
This brings me to another question that I had. My hits had normally come on the left side but it seems now each one is different; I never know whether it willbe the right or the left. Is this normal? I'm hopimg that it means I may be coming close to the end of this particular cycle as mine usually get pretty harsh and erratic right before the end. Much luv and PFDANS!
Pfunk 
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
sandie99
New Board Hall of Famer
Wish it, dream it, do it - inspite the pain!
Gender:
Posts: 10429
|
|
Re: Can you close your eyes?
« Reply #24 on: Feb 1st, 2007, 5:50am » |
Quote Modify
|
I have a habit to press ice cube or something else cold (well, my hands are ice cold at times...) against the eye on the hit side (99.9% certainly left) sometimes, so the eye is shut.
Sanna
|
|
IP Logged |
CH happends, Live anyway! PF days to us all!
"Do what you can and let God take care of the rest. Leave your heart wide open and always wish for the best" (Sanna Hillu)
"No matter how far out your dreams are, it's possible" (Marketa Irglova)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Home
Help
Search
Members
Member Map
Login
Register
Reply
Notify of replies
Send Topic
Print
test rss