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johnd7
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Thanksgiving from Hell
« on: Nov 27th, 2006, 3:56pm » |
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I just started a cycle about a week or two ago and have been getting hit harder, more often and on less of a schedule than usually. This past four days of Thanksgiving have been a living hell for me and my family. I got 02 but it has not been working as well. I have order the clustermasx but have not received in mail yet. I am not wanting to use Predinsone just yet this time so I also ordered Kudzu which I just got yesterday. Anyhow, the last few days I have been getting at least a 10++++ Kip lasting almost 4 hours at that level, worst I have ever had. I probably should have gone to emergency room to see if Imitrex would work but in the past it did not work well so my doc did not prescribe. I was finally desperate enough to try shrooms, after reading everything.
I could not wait for 6 weeks to order and grow so I had to procure through the streets. Through some trustworthy people I know I was able to get 2.7 grams on Saturday night. I decided to start with 1.0 grams. Within about 20 minutes or so I felt a stoning affect from my head to my toes, nothing alarming or bad though. The best part was though my head was clear, no shadow, not thoughts of headaches etc. Within about 2-3 hrs. I started coming down and feeling a slight shadow. Withing 4 hrs. I was ready for bed but had a pretty good shadow. I used 02 and went to sleep at about 1 am. At 7 am I woke up with a 7-8, tried 02 again, no help, Red Bull, no help, by about 8 it was a full blown 10+ again with crying, screaming, suicidal thoughts etc. Another Red Bull about 11am and shadows all day yesterday. Used 02 to get to bed last night. Also decided to start my Kudzu and took 2 before bed last night and two this morning. So far only shadows, I am not sure if it is the Kudzu or the shrooms since I did have a bad 10 the morning after shrooms.
I am trying to get into my Dr. today or tomorrow for Medical leave from work for a week or two and am thinking of using the last 1.7 grams of shrooms I have next weekend sometime depending on how my cycle and kudzu goes this week. I am going to try to get him to give me Imitrex jabs prescribed as well as Verapamil to have those on hand in case I need or in case the Kudzu is not really working or the shrooms don't work.
Any episodics been able to get Medical leave for time to get through these? I have never had to in the past but this cycle is to crazy and I have no more sick days.
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #1 on: Nov 28th, 2006, 5:38am » |
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John,
I'm so sorry that the beast is giving you hard time right now...
PF vibes are coming your way.
Best wishes,
Sanna
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"Do what you can and let God take care of the rest. Leave your heart wide open and always wish for the best" (Sanna Hillu)
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #2 on: Nov 28th, 2006, 7:52pm » |
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I'm with ya man. Thanksgiving has been a living hell for me too. Never did get to eat. Just aint the same the next day.
good luck.
my bro gets them as well (odd huh) His doc gave him
TORODOL 60MG
VISTARIL 50 MG
Both at the same time..........
PS They really hurt going in??? In your ASS that is!!!
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #3 on: Nov 28th, 2006, 10:13pm » |
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Mine have been coming back recently as well, all I can say is the Imitrex and going back on the Verapamil have worked great. Good luck to you! CH for "most" people eventually becomes very manageable once you find what works for you......
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #4 on: Nov 28th, 2006, 11:55pm » |
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Hello John,
I am rather concerned reading your post to see that you are mixing all sorts of things together, Kudzu and shrooms and now you are planning to use Verapamil and Triptans on top of that??
Dont know much about shrooms but not sure if its a good idea to procure them from the street plus from what I have read on Clusterbusters.com, you should be completely detoxed from all medication prior to starting them.
Please contact someone from Clusterbusters to get the correct information on how to use shrooms. Otherwise talk to your doctor and follow his/her advices. Dont think mixing traditional meds with alternatives this way is a good or safe thing to do.
Can someone in the know help our friend here please?
Annette
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #5 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 5:22am » |
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more than anything else, if your nailing all these meds at the same time, how are you gonna know which one works ??
my advice - try the verapamil, under docs supervision obviously.
paif free vibes bro.
chops
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #6 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 6:47am » |
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Quote:Possible inhibitors to clusterbusters
*Kudzu:
"Anecdotal evidence suggests that kudzu can block the effects of psilocybin; one person reports that taking a normal dose of kudzu for a week completely blocked the psychological and physical effects of 1.5 grams of psilocybin mushrooms. Those interested in the Clusterbuster approach should consider the strong possibility that kudzu will interfere with that therapeutic approach." [Flo]
See: http://med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Kudzu
* Imitrex (and associated triptans):
Based upon many reports, triptans are one of the most likely medications to block the clusterbusting effects of psychedelics. In our opinion, they should be avoided both before, during and after, beginning psychedelic treatments for clusters.
* Verapamil:
We have received reports of clusterheads achieving complete success with psilocybin while taking verapamil. I have also seen reports from chronics whose only medication at the time of their psilocybin trials was verapamil, who failed to get any significant relief.
Was this lack of success due to interaction with verapamil?
I don't know. I am open to argument on this one.[psm]
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #7 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 1:58pm » |
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Nobody panic, maybe I was misunderstood. I am not mixing anything nor do I plan on mixing anything other than Red Bull and 02 which go with just about any other treatments. I did read all of clusterbusters, followed all instructions (other than buying off the street, but I am sure I am not the first that did that and I know where they came from plus who has 6 weeks to wait for growing) and I did not have ANY meds or Kudzu at all before attempting the shrooms. I have had some headaches and shadows since the shrooms so I tried some Kudzu AFTER, while it seemed to work almost the first day, I have now not taken any for a day and a half now and have not been hit near as bad as prior to shrooms. I am thinking that the shrooms actually helped to knock out or change the cycle but that I may need another dose this weekend to finish it off. I have not and am not planning on taking Kudzu, Imitrex, Verap and shrooms together. I want the Imitrex and Verap in case they return with a vengeance soon. I will not try anything other than 02 and Red Bull until I have decided if I will try one more dose of shrooms in which case I would have nothing prior.
I finally got an appt. with my regular doc this afternoon but in the mean time yesterday he called in a precscription for a 6 day tapering dose of Methylprednisolone which I guess is supposed to be like Prednisone. I just don't really wan't to take that stuff again at this point. When I go today I am going to try to get the Imitrex and Verapimel prescribed just to have. Depending on how bad I get will determine the course of treatment I decide to take.
By the way, I also highly recommend the clustermasx which I got in the mail the other day.
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Re: Thanksgiving from Hell
« Reply #8 on: Nov 29th, 2006, 2:20pm » |
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Good news John - thanks for filling us in 
Keep us up to speed with your second dose if you do decide to. You may not have to take the remaining 1.7g (I would suggest keeping some back for another dose, just in case).
Glad you've got the clustermarx - superb piece of kit.
Once again, all the best with it.
-Lee
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