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spidey426
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I was just curious about everyone's input on drinking during their cycle. I'm about 2 1/2 weeks into my cycle and have been dying for a drink the past few days. Do you guys have better luck with certain types of alcohol? I know beer is a definate no-no.. I had a beer 2 days into my cycle and jeesh, I would have rated it a Kip 11  Since then I've had a rum and coke without it inducing a CH, and I had a glass of white wine this evening with no CH.. I would like to try drinking a little more.. but I fear the beast..
It's funny, I rarely drink.. then my cycle hits and that's all I wanna do.. I guess just because I can't. I'm at the point in my cycle where I'm starting to realize how much I take my remission periods for granted : /
Anyways, again, what luck do you guys have with alcohol? Any suggestions for the people dying for a few drinks?
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #2 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 8:20am » |
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Barry's response shows how much individual variation we have to deal with. The only formal study I've seen on the topic came from Europe and concluded: red wine and distilled spirits were bad; white wine O.K. --but, of course, not for 100% of people.
All you can do is continue your "experiments" and see how your body responds.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #3 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 11:46am » |
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Or just quit drinking when in cycle. I gave it up 8 years ago-at least that's one less trigger.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #4 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 1:41pm » |
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I try to stay away from any alcohol. ALthough I have been getting headaches since I was 12 Im still uncertain about alot of things with the ch. Im not sure when my cycles begins are end. I have never gotten a ch from drinking any kinda of clear alcohol (cept vodka) but beer and wiskey usally put me into the corner by myslef
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #5 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 3:45pm » |
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Years before I was diagnosed - one day I was at a friends and we opened a beer -- two sips and I got hit with a Kip 10. Had to be driven home screaming. The next time I had a beer -- same thing, so I gave up beer totally for about 100 years - and I love beer.
Last year at my son's birthday party everyone was drinking beer and I decided to test it.... nada -- drank two beers and it was wonderful (wrong brand, but that's all he had). Since then I drink a beer occasionally, but don't push it too far.
Other alcohol doesn't seem to bother me (I don't drink red wine but I don't like red wine -- white wine is great).
But the same thing happened after eating Chinese food - one time and not since. Go figure.....
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #6 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 9:05pm » |
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For me, beer is generally okay (like one or two at most) but any sort of liquor sends me screaming in pain.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 9:18pm » |
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While in cycle, I need to be alcohol free. I've tried wine (red, white, port), beer, scotch, rum and maybe others, and every one gave triggered a hit.
When not in cycle, I can drink anything and be PF.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #8 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 11:54pm » |
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I once admitted publicly that I can drink what I want, when I want, in whatever quantities are available, but after the hate-mail I got in return I'm now keeping it a secret.
Cheers and beers,
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #9 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 1:57am » |
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I only drink when I'm sober.
Not really. Actually I never or very seldom drink alcohol of any kind due to an immediate CH reaction for me..
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #10 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 4:41am » |
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When in cycle I never drink. Every alcoholic drink provoces. it is not the ingredients, it is the alcohol.
However when cycle is over I have tendencie to drink excessive....
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #11 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 6:51am » |
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #12 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 4:03pm » |
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Barbara-Watch out for the MSG...busts my ass every time I eat something that has it. I think I'm the top food label reader in the country, but they still sneak it in by calling it natural flavor, hydrolized soy protein, etc. You can google msg and find some good info if interested.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #13 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 1:21pm » |
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My very first cycle, I drank beer or vodka. I was getting hits every night, one after the other, but never put the two together. Second cycle (and reading through this place), I quit the beer because it triggered within minutes, but I could still drink vodka. Third cycle, ANY alcohol, beer, vodka, wine, even really low content spritzers - bang!. Now, when the cycle starts, no alcohol whatsoever for the duration of the cycle. I drink pretty much nothing but strong coffee and water, water, water. At parties, I'll have water with a lime in it and "make believe".
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #14 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 3:23am » |
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Let's just say (unfortunately) I drink generously. But the only time I ever had a real problem was when I drank "Icehouse" brand beer. All others was ok but that beer seemed to cause complete and unbearable agony. (for some reason).
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #15 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 9:49am » |
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #16 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:08am » |
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I know that in the population CH sufferers are majority smokers and drink more alcohol than average. (please do not drink any alcohol within cycle, it is the alcohol that provoces not the kind of alcoholic drink) Why is it we tend to drink too much and smoke? (according to statistics)
I myself have sometimes problems not drinking too much. I believe (speak for myself), because life is so stressfull and (again formyself) have very uncommon life with more than average stress. I always must think about future and changes in life for instance, new job and what will happen when CH comes again?
This is i think for me reason why high intake.
I dont believe high intake causes CH, I believe stress in life induced by CH causes the intake.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #17 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 12:17pm » |
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on Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:08am, MattNL wrote:I know that in the population CH sufferers are majority smokers and drink more alcohol than average.
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I don't remember the source of this as I read it shortly after diagnosis, but I think I read once that problems in the hypothalmus also create problems with dopamine, one of the primary inflences on addiction AND the chemical that creates pain relief from narcotics.
One CH medication, Topamax, is currently in trials to see if it relieves addiction drives by rebalancing brain chemistry.
My theory is that the gene that makes you susceptible to addiction may also make you susceptible to CH, given the right circumstances. Just a theory, but as both addictions and CH seem to be centered in the hypothalamus, I'd like to see some research on it.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #18 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 2:35pm » |
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It's been a long time since I posted here but I always drop in to check out the threads.
I've been PF for about 5 years now...51 yrs old did I grow out of it??? Who knows.
One thing I'm certain of in my case any alcohol would trigger a Ch when I was in a cycle..God knows I love a drink and I tortured myself for years.
Alcohol and Ch don't make a good cocktail 
Enjoy those drinks when your out of cycle....I have been for 5 years 
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 25th, 2006, 10:58am » |
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Out of cycle, I'll have a couple of beers, maybe, or a mixed drink. Don't normally drink very much. In a cycle, you couldn't get me to touch any alcohol for a thousand bucks.
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 25th, 2006, 11:18am » |
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on Jun 23rd, 2006, 12:17pm, Katherinecm wrote:
I don't remember the source of this as I read it shortly after diagnosis, but I think I read once that problems in the hypothalmus also create problems with dopamine, one of the primary inflences on addiction AND the chemical that creates pain relief from narcotics.
One CH medication, Topamax, is currently in trials to see if it relieves addiction drives by rebalancing brain chemistry.
My theory is that the gene that makes you susceptible to addiction may also make you susceptible to CH, given the right circumstances. Just a theory, but as both addictions and CH seem to be centered in the hypothalamus, I'd like to see some research on it. |
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Katherine is right on with her theory, IMHO. I've been reading this site for many years and have noticed that clusterheads seem to have a lot of habits and/or addictions, good and bad. One of those habits/addictions is having to check this website 2,3,7 times a day, everyday. Is that a good or bad habit? Hell, I don't know. I just go ahead and do it.
Back to subject of alcohol, back in my drinking days (I haven't had a drink since 1985) I was a heavy beer drinker. When in cycle one beeer would trigger big time. 2, 3, 7 more would not help to calm it down. I soon learned that you CANNOT out-drink a clusterheadache. If you get into that contest you WILL loose every time!
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #21 on: Jun 26th, 2006, 3:16pm » |
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Unfortunately I have the CH problem and a moderate drinking problem. I have tortured myself a few times while in cycle but I have learned my lesson. CH and any alcohol just don't mix. My latest cycle ended in May and I've been making up for the 4 months of missed drinks ever since.
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Re: Alcohol
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on Jun 25th, 2006, 11:18am, BobG wrote:
.... you CANNOT out-drink a clusterheadache. If you get into that contest you WILL loose every time! |
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I hate to admit that I've tried and can vouch for this claim. 
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the word "moderate" is generally not combined with "drinking problem". kind of an oxymoron really. it's generally either a problem drinking or moderate drinking.
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I'm no prude but when I figured out drinking caused me to beat my head against the floor I quit and never looked back. I've never figured out why people will continue to drink even when they know its going to hurt them, but I guess thats a whole other beast.........
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #24 on: Jun 26th, 2006, 3:52pm » |
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I don't smoke and rarely drink, but I want a drink and a ciggie when I'm getting hit. I've asked people to exhale in my direction - and you know, they can't.
My big drinking now is that my kudzu is liquid in a grain based alcohol. I use about an ounce of liquid kudzu extract a week.
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