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« on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:07am »
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Do you all LOVE the holidays.....or HATE them ? I used to love them when it was a nice and quiet day for me and my family.....we'd have cinnimon rolls in the oven and coffee perking.....then we'd turn on sum Xmas music and prepare to sit down and slowly open our gifts. Then we'd all sorta lounge around nibbling on Xmas treats and snacks and have a nice dinner later. Now it is go go go go go.....no time to even think about makeing cinnimon rolls....anytime we have to sit down and open stuff at home is a TIME'D event.....gotta be at the inlaws by a certain time and spend the entire day there. We do Xmas eve with my folks....then two or three xmas parties before that in a row. And now our list of gifts has grown to where we got too many to buy for to buy for 'each other'....too many nieces and newphe's haveing kids all at the inlaws and my daughter has three she can't afford. So she put the pressure on us also sayin they could not visit for the holidays cuz there car is gettin so old and gas money issues (hint hint hint for a new vehicle ???) and since none of us can go there and take Xmas to them cuz of all the obligations and family comein in from outa state to see at the inlaws she says she is goin to announce to her 'children' that there will be NO XMAS this year and that they can't even pay bills (hint hint hint for me to send MORE money this year and sooner to compinsate)......what happen'd to this dam holiday anyhow ?? It is no longer feels happy and mostly a day set aside to buy all these people stuff you never even see other then Xmas.....and be 10 places at once or friends and family get pissed at ya......and try and give the best gift and bring the most gifts contest to show your love and loyalty.....plus blow the entire day sumwhere else.......and go broke !! Seems we've lost the meaning sumwhere here......it's gettin out of hand for us. One party is enuff for me.....not 5 or 6 !!!! Bah my humbug Pam
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:11am »
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on Dec 18th, 2007, 11:07am, cootie wrote:
Do you all LOVE the holidays.....or HATE them ?

 
Yes - there are good things about the holidays I love, and bad things I hate. My take: people have this belief that it is The Ultimate, so they keep piling responsibilities on themselves and others. Which can stretch things too thin, wear people out, and take the spirit out of it.  But it doesn't have to be that way.  
 
If I expect the ultimate, I might be dissappointed. If I am looking forward to a nice, quiet time with the family, I might get it if I can limit myself.  
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:30am »
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I absolutely hate Christmas more and more each year.  Angry  I used to love it.  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:34am »
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I always want to enjoy the holidays.  
 
Mostly, the time I'm able to spend with my immediate family makes it all worthwhile.  Gets so there are parts of town I don't go to from November to New Year's--who wants to get mired in a retail feeding frenzy, eh?  Most of the purchases we make nowadays (and it's not a huge deal for us--we haven't escalated Christmas into a competitive sport) are done online.  
 
We usually end up going to my sister-in-law's house for dinner on Christmas Day.  That's not so bad, unless somebody's on the warpath.  Far as I know, nobody is this year--but sometimes I miss the subtleties, and there's a surprise.   Wink
 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:36am »
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I'm TRYING to limit myself......but I come off looking rude and uncareing in the process no doubt....I just "can't" do it all and keep up and don't even want to which is the bad part. You should want to I guess. We are expected at the inlaws for TWO days.....I will limit myself to the one long day Xmas day and that's it.  We have 4 events in a row......5 or 6 if we tried to rush to do two in one day. Also we have alot of new years eve options but actually rather not go anywhere cuz that adds to it all. Wish I was more into it and go go go mood but I'm not.....I don't care for all the hype for a one day event that goes on for a week !!! Burn'd out Pam
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:38am »
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You're right Pam -- we ARE loosing the meaning and the spirit of Christmas.
 
Years ago, I remember our house being full of kinfolks (everyone always gathered at our house) and it was mass chaos (great fun). We got to see all the cousins, aunts, uncles - everyone tried to help Grandmother make the turkey and dressing - and sneak the celery in when my Dad wasn't looking (he hated celery or pretended to). A big todo (my uncle was in charge) about baking cookies for Santa and arranging them just right for his visit. And of course the big dinner - we always did it on Christmas eve cause it was my Mom's birthday (had to have a party for her BEFORE we even talked about Christmas - that was a RULE!) Then we all loaded up and went to Midnight Mass.  
 
I miss all that. Several years back, Bill and I started "making" Christmas presents instead of going out and buying a lot of junk just to say we had a present for this one or that one. We had fun doing it and it was just as nice as something we'd have gone and bought. I'm still doing it. This year I made calendars for the kinfolks. They took some research and a LOT of work on my part, but I did them myself and I think they're cute as a bug.  
 
Christmas is a time for family and friends. Parties are ok, but just sitting and visiting with old friends is nicer. The best presents I've received this year are some "unexpected" phone calls from some "old" and dear friends.  
 
My Caleb is coming back up here Friday and we've got a weekend of "cookie" baking to do -- Old Santa is probably gonna be hungry when he gets to Granny's and we've got to be prepared.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:41am »
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on Dec 18th, 2007, 11:30am, thomas wrote:
I absolutely hate Christmas more and more each year.  Angry  I used to love it.  Undecided

 
I hear ya Thomas.
 
Christmas is for parents and grandparents of very young children.  We used to make it so special for my son when he was very young - even his grandparents participated.
 
Now all my teenager wants is money money money (and video games), we only have one parent left (who can't be bothered to spend Christmas eve with us), and with Brew working for Santa's biggest elf, it's a downright humbug of a season.
 
I used to make 20-30 different kinds of cookies every year to give as gifts.  I'm down to 16 different kinds this year and only give to those who truly appreciate them.  I'm sick of the eye rolling and the "cookies again?" comments . . . apparently some of the people I know don't appreciate how much love and work goes into making all those cookies!  So they get scratched off the list.
 
It'll be very quiet for us this year with no family to speak of.  It might actually be nice that way!
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 11:46am »
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I still have fun at Christmas.
 
Problem is my energy level would't light a bulb.
 
Its all in what you make it. You give up the spirit and replace it with attitude and misery then thats on you. I'm still going to enjoy the lights, the parties, and Christmas dinner with my nieces and nephews.
 
Feeling overwhelmed? Take a break and go wrap some Toys for  Tots. It'll make you feel better.
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on Dec 18th, 2007, 11:41am, Mosaicwench wrote:

 
  I'm sick of the eye rolling and the "cookies again?" comments . . . apparently some of the people I know don't appreciate how much love and work goes into making all those cookies!  

I got to witness that first-hand over the last two weeks.  Thinking about getting Gena a baker's hat, lol.  She has worked pretty hard on cookies etc.
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Heres a simple suggestion.
 
If you feel obligated to buy gifts for a household with numerous people simply offer to provide the family Christmas tree for all of them. Gather them all up, go pick out a tree, wish them a Merry Christmas, then on Chistmas Day go to there home, experiance the joy..................then eat all their food and drink all their liquor.  Cool
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We place as much stress on ourselves as we WANT to during the holiday. I refuse to allow someone elses expectation of how I SHOULD be or act or feel during Christmas influence me.
 
Due to extreme financial difficulties this year Ben and I decided not to do a gift exchange. Do we feel bad... NO. I think it idiotic the way people condition their children year after year to associate the birthday of Jesus with a day of want and greed.
 
Giving and loving is something that should be a part of our daily lives. Christ seems to have gotten lost under all the used  gift-wrap and tossed out with the day after christmas garbage.
 
Would the world stop turning if you just took the day and relaxed? Would people love you less if that special gift did not come from you? Are you willing to feed the illusion that a person should equate self worth with "things"?
 
I figure that if I treat people with dignity, respect, kindness and generosity throughout the year then Christmas is a truly happy time that lasts 365 days.
 
I believe that everyday someone is in my life, be they; friend, family, neighbor or stranger... I have an opportunity to treat them as if they were Christ himself... if I fail to do so... then I don't think giving them a gift on the 25th of December is going to make a difference.
 
Take a chill pill tootsie and enjoy the day... you'll be giving the world a present... One less miserable person.
 
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Thank you Tony and Merry Christmas !!
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on Dec 18th, 2007, 12:10pm, artonio7 wrote:
We place as much stress on ourselves as we WANT to during the holiday. I refuse to allow someone elses expectation of how I SHOULD be or act or feel during Christmas influence me.
 
Due to extreme financial difficulties this year Ben and I decided not to do a gift exchange. Do we feel bad... NO. I think it idiotic the way people condition their children year after year to associate the birthday of Jesus with a day of want and greed.
 
Giving and loving is something that should be a part of our daily lives. Christ seems to have gotten lost under all the used  gift-wrap and tossed out with the day after christmas garbage.
 
Would the world stop turning if you just took the day and relaxed? Would people love you less if that special gift did not come from you? Are you willing to feed the illusion that a person should equate self worth with "things"?
 
I figure that if I treat people with dignity, respect, kindness and generosity throughout the year then Christmas is a truly happy time that lasts 365 days.
 
I believe that everyday someone is in my life, be they; friend, family, neighbor or stranger... I have an opportunity to treat them as if they were Christ himself... if I fail to do so... then I don't think giving them a gift on the 25th of December is going to make a difference.
 
Take a chill pill tootsie and enjoy the day... you'll be giving the world a present... One less miserable person.
 
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Thats alright Thomas. Only someone with the sensitivity level of a gay artist could articulate in that way.
 
 
We all know your not an artist.  Cool
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 12:28pm »
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Tony that was beautiful and so true....
 
And Chewy - your sentiments weren't bad either....
 
I think you guys have the true Christmas spirit.  
 
Now you've got me singing, "Joy to the World"
 
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Now you've got me singing, "Joy to the World"
 
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Just hum it so the neighbors dont call the cops.
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Geezzz, you've heard me sing?
 
You know I'll get you for that one..... watch your back..
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Thank goodness for Christmas, that's what i say!  What are we, WIMPS?  What's a lil ole traffic jam in the parking lot anyhow?  And who cares about the stampede for WII systems, et al.?  That's what eggnog and rum is for Grin
 
I can't wait for church on christmas eve when i'll lite a candle for the world, and i can't wait to hear the ripping taring sounds and see my kids smiles***all's right with the world.
 
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I much prefer Thanksgiving these days...no presents to buy, just cook a side dish and show up for turkey, stuff myself silly, sit back, sleep and wake up every so often to see what the score is.... Grin
 
HOWEVER, I made a statement when my husband and I got married, I would not make our daughter leave her toys on Christmas to go see relatives, we take care of that the day before and then spend Christmas day with just the three of us, and now that my brothers both have families, they get what I meant by that.... Wink
 
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I LOVE CHristmas. I always have and I always will. Period.
 
And I won't let physical pain, emotional pain, stress or anything else to ruin my fave holiday for me.
 
I admit that this year has been painful for me and I haven't found that CHristmas spirit quite yet. My hand hurts, I'm feeling bit blue because of that and I'm attending a funeral before Christmas Eve. And I still recall vividly the CHristmas we had back in 1996, my dad's last CHristmas, which changed a lot. This year Timo and I won't spend our CHristmas together; he'll be here in Jyväskylä, with his sister's family.
 
Still, I'm sure, that come CHristmas Eve, it all be well, because by then I have met all of my dearest friends - including one I haven't seen for ages because she is living abroad nowdays. AT CHristmas Eve my aunt, her two daughters and their partners and perhaps my great aunt, mum's cousin and uncle and his wife and three kids will all gather to my childhood home, as it has been, for the past 26 years.  
 
I'm more than happy to cook all sort of CHristmas foods and treats for my family and friends. I love decorating the house I grew up in, I love decorating the tree and listen to the CHristmas CDs (and I have plenty to choose from). I loved picking the perfect card for each person and finding a nice gift and the wrapping them up, knowing that the one who gets them will be happily surprised.
 
My favourite moment comes when all the quests have left on CHristmas Eve, the candles are still burning, one particular CHristmas album is playing, the CHristmas tree's lights are still on and I'm watching the Mass from Vatican while mum is already sleeping. That serenity, that love, that togetherness with my life, my faith and CHristmas spirit cannot be bought, sold nor taken. It's all that matters to me.  
 
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 18th, 2007, 7:36pm »
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Ok....I'll go steal a tree sumwhere and then take sum valium and grab a bottle of whiskey....then drive over to the inlaws to setup the tree ta suprise them then start singin Christmas Carols. Maybe next year they won't invite me and Xmas will be back to basics. Hey sounds like a plan.......should I wear underwear Pam  Cool
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No stress here, I sleep late, go nowhere and buy no one anything. Just sit around all day scratching myself and farting. Grin
 
I work to fucking hard all year to be stressed on Christmas day!
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on Dec 18th, 2007, 12:10pm, artonio7 wrote:
Would the world stop turning if you just took the day and relaxed? Would people love you less if that special gift did not come from you? Are you willing to feed the illusion that a person should equate self worth with "things"?
 
I figure that if I treat people with dignity, respect, kindness and generosity throughout the year then Christmas is a truly happy time that lasts 365 days.

 
The few close ones wouldn't love less without, and sometimes things have much more personal worth than just what they are when they come from someone special.  I save and cherish things that mean nothing to another, but because they came from a certain person I keep them because they meant so much.  
  Being good to a person can come easy when you like someone, but an extra thought shown toward them, in whatever way, can mean something special to another beyond any value of whatever gift.  Not expected, but in it's simplicity, just maybe well remembered.    Smiley
 
Giving can come at anytime though, Christmas expectations are sometimes overwhelming but it is a good reminder of expressing kindness and generosity to those we care for in a way that that shows them they are a little bit more special to us.  If we haven't done that for another in awhile, Christmas can be that reminder to keep in mind showing someone they're special at least once a year, if not so much at Christmas some years.
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