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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #1 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 8:39am » |
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Jonny mentioned about that last night.
If I was younger - I wouldn't have kids. I'ts getting so that parents have no part whatsoever in raising them and that is one of the saddest things I've ever written down.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #2 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 8:53am » |
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It's not just schools.
I can't participate in my son's health care if he doesn't want me to - he's 15 (it's been this way since he was 12).
I HAVE to pay the bills but the doctor can ask for private time with my son and the doctor is under legal obligation NOT to disclose what they chatted about (or what he was treated for).
Tell me that isn't a crock of $hit.
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I guess I should be thankful I don't have children. I pay huge school taxes and if I ever found out the school system was providing my children with ANY form of medication o hormones without my express consent I would wade through the school administration building with a flencing knife and exterminate them.
This is what scares me about the "Hillary's" and it takes a village crowd. It boils down to the common people becoming "breeders" of future tax payers and labor for the politicians.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #4 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 9:27am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:21am, Paul98 wrote:
This is what scares me about the "Hillary's" and it takes a village crowd. It boils down to the common people becoming "breeders" of future tax payers and labor for the politicians.
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Not only breeders . . . the public schools exist to make children compliant little drones who willingly let the government run roughshod over their lives.
Used to be that higher education existed to teach critical thinking skills and individuality was encouraged.
Now, despite the 'celebrate diversity" crowd, individuality is crushed and critical thinking is discouraged. They want to celebrate diversity (as long as we all think the same thing) and individuality is "can't we all be the same."
Welcome to George Orwell's 1984.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #5 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 9:29am » |
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Geeze,
Now we have to spend our tax dollars in case kids want to get laid.
I wonder actually how many 6-8 graders are sexually active?
And can these numbers be defined by areas of the country or certain cities or school districts? I bet the results would be interesting.
Kids can't even take a Goddamn aspirin while in school because its against the rules. But the school is allowed to pass out what are normally prescribed drugs? When the hell did a school nurse become a doctor? Just wait until one of these girls has an adverse reaction to the pill and dies (Which can happen) It will be the biggest lawsuit anyone has ever seen! And John D. Taxpayer will have to foot the bill.
This borders on being illegal.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #6 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 9:39am » |
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Maybe it is a good thing that for the time being my "kids" are guinea pigs... I'm getting more and more scared about having kids.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #7 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 9:55am » |
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Oh the joy of it. You guys may be happy to know that this type of idiocy is not confined to the Western world. Here in SA we have a huge problem with HIV/AIDS and teenage pregnancies etc. The governments solution to this problem - lower the age of consent to 12 years of age for girls and any girl 12 yrs or older can march into a clinic and get an abortion without her parents consent or knowledge. 12 YEARS OLD for goodness sake!!
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #8 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 10:03am » |
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12???
Good god. I don't think I'd even had my first kiss by then...
I sound really old now, don't I!!
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #9 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 10:17am » |
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12?!  OMG! That's horrible! 
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #10 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 10:21am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 9:55am, Wayne wrote:| Oh the joy of it. You guys may be happy to know that this type of idiocy is not confined to the Western world. Here in SA we have a huge problem with HIV/AIDS and teenage pregnancies etc. The governments solution to this problem - lower the age of consent to 12 years of age for girls and any girl 12 yrs or older can march into a clinic and get an abortion without her parents consent or knowledge. 12 YEARS OLD for goodness sake!! |
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Now there is a situation where raising the age of consent and the consequences of breaking it would be a better option but nooooo..
With respect Wayne, your government ought to be prosecuted for what amounts to legalising paedophilia.
The world is truly going mad 
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #11 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 10:54am » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 10:21am, LeLimey wrote:| The world is truly going mad |
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Or as they say down under, it's gone beyond the black stump.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #12 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 12:14pm » |
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Here's a little tidbit from personal experience. When Jrbrew was in 8th grade we took advantage of a virtual public school as an educational option. We oversaw his public school education in our home, with curriculum and instruction coming via internet.
The WI Teacher's Union sued our school trying to shut it down on the grounds that . . . . .
wait for it . . . . . .
on the grounds that parents were morally unfit to teach their own children.
Needless to say the lawsuit was thrown out and virtual schooling thrives here in WI.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #13 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 12:15pm » |
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at 12 I was still playing dolls and jumping up and down on trees and having the time of my life...months later CH began...thinking about sexual relationships?..not in my menu back then, not even in my mind...
I think I will keep my daughter at home as long as I can..or if it turns really ugly here...I go back to where I came from.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #14 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 1:05pm » |
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this is one more reason more and more people are switching to home education. I applaud the Brewcrew for what they have done with their son. The very concept that parents aren't "morally fit" to teach their children is beyond absurd.
What ever happened to the concept of personal responsibility? Why is it so wrong to teach the kids that abstinance guarantees freedom from worry about pregnancy. (Or STD's either) The old Catholic school teaching for the girls is very effective. Take two aspirin when you go out on a date. (Hold them between your knees  )
for some reason the liberal mindset in this country is to remove the consequences from actions rather than discouraging misbehaviour. We definately need some major changes in our thinking in this country.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #15 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 1:27pm » |
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Here's the thing that continues to blow my mind: the lawsuit was brought forward by the teachers' union. In other words, teachers. The ones who will spend all sorts of time and money convincing us that they have our children's best interests in mind.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #16 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 1:40pm » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 12:14pm, Mosaicwench wrote:
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Hey brew, when my son was expelled and I was doing the homeschooling for the last 6 wks of school, I was denied my right to homeschool at first. The county tried to force me to not work in order to take him back and forth to afternoon/night school, even threatened me with charges for truancy if he didn't go.
I ignored the threats, filed for homeschooling and then had to PROVE I was capable and fit to teach him!
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #17 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 7:18pm » |
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"After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in this city have decided to allow a school health center to make birth control pills available to girls as young as 11."
To me its child endangerment, how many kids that age are going to remember to take that pill everyday?
How many girls will be raped when young dudes think they cant get her pregnant?
What about STD's, birth control dont stop that shit, does it?
Young dudes aint going to wear no fucking condom....I never did!
There are actually lines of clothing aimed at pre-teen that include thongs with cherry print on them....oh great, invite the fucking child molesters.
WTF?
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Whats going to happen when you give a prepubescent girl those hormones? Is that even safe? Oh man I would be pissed........
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I make it no secret that I have issues with the liberals that run our school systems.
We can vote them out of office but we don't, primarily because most parents who do vote, don't even know what going on themselves and just check off a box at the polls.
The solution is if you don't know what a candidate stands for don't punch the ticket just because its your party or because they are the incumbent etc etc etc.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #20 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 7:26pm » |
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It is really quite sad where our Country is going. If you don't vote in the next presidential election---then YOU are the problem!
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #21 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 7:41pm » |
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It may have not been the teachers per say that didn't want you to home school, it was more likely just the union. And the county in your case Jennifer. The fewer children they have in public schools, the less funding they have. The more that home school, less money for teacher raises and building improvements (for the county). At least that's how it is in Mich. My guess is the union and the county could care less about your kid as long as they get the money.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #22 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 8:08pm » |
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:41pm, M.R. wrote:
It may have not been the teachers per say that didn't want you to home school, it was more likely just the union. And the county in your case Jennifer. The fewer children they have in public schools, the less funding they have. The more that home school, less money for teacher raises and building improvements (for the county). At least that's how it is in Mich. My guess is the union and the county could care less about your kid as long as they get the money. |
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What you didn't understand is that the teacher's union was suing A PUBLIC SCHOOL!!
WI has open enrollment which means I can enroll my child in ANY school in the state and my public school taxes follow him to that district (there are a few restrictions which are irrelevant to this discussion).
One of the options is to enroll in a VIRTUAL PUBLIC SCHOOL. So in essence the Teacher's Union was suing their own members and the school in which they are employed (teacher's union dues are mandatory here, attendance at their functions is not).
And they get their money whether I homeschool or use a public school. My portion of the property tax that is earmarked for schools doesn't get refunded if I choose to traditionally homeschool.
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Re: Schools know best
« Reply #23 on: Oct 18th, 2007, 8:17pm » |
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I know in Mich. there is a headcount on a certain day of each year. For each child counted, something like 750 bucks is given to the school. I don't know if that is distribution of the taxes collected, or matching funds from the government (I believe it is the latter). It wouldn't surprise me that the union would sue anything that would take away that funding.
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Re: Schools know best
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on Oct 18th, 2007, 7:26pm, zwibbs/Scott wrote:| It is really quite sad where our Country is going. If you don't vote in the next presidential election---then YOU are the problem! |
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There ain't a plug nickel's worth of difference between the two major parties, Zwibby. Their number one major goal is to create compliant taxpayers. Why is it then that I'm supposed to vote?
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