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Thats what i'd like to know!!! 
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Re: Why?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 6:08pm » |
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That is sad. When are the politicians going to really tackle this issue ??
BTW, Indiana is full of illegals. I guarantee that if I had the power, I could round up thousands of them in a very short time.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #3 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 6:57pm » |
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Sorry Jonny, it's the same reason OJ walked free. They have won the media over. Once the media is on your side, you're completely untouchable. They are within reach of annexing California without firing a shot. I arrest them, turn them over to Border Patrol, they laugh in my face and say "see ya next week".....and they do!!!
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on Sep 17th, 2007, 6:57pm, Guiseppi wrote:| Sorry Jonny, it's the same reason OJ walked free. |
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Have you turned on the TV lately ?? O.J.'s in JAIL !! NO BOND YET !! LMAO !!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 8:02pm » |
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It sounds like Blackwater Security is going to have a few unemployed men. We could have them drive up and down the border. Keep them employed. If you can see it, you can shoot it.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 8:27pm » |
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on Sep 17th, 2007, 8:02pm, M.R. wrote:| We could have them drive up and down the border. Keep them employed. If you can see it, you can shoot it. |
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At least we will know the job will be done and done right!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 8:31pm » |
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For me Jonny, it is a matter of political correctness. Every time someone points out that you are welcome in America BUT you MUST come here LEGALLY...what do they get?
Ah, the old race card...works every time!!!!
Then they go on about why people from Mexico come here, that we are ALL immigrants, you are a racist...blah, blah, blah.
Well, guess what you insipid bunch of sissies. (pc crowd)
I married a Mexican woman...my kids are half Mexican. Guess what Else? They are truly Americans !!!
So, I guess I am a very clever racist eh?
Truth is, I have known and worked with many illegals....oh wait, excuse me...."undocumented workers" Just like anyone else, some good, some bad. No one wants more for peoples of poor and unstable countries to come here and share/contribute to the great things we all enjoy than myself. But you MUST respect and abide by our laws...I have to !!!
That is the bottom line no one will discuss...too afraid to be called a racist.
Until someone in charge here grows a set of huevos, it wont change. Just that simple.
See why Dave is such a radical Constitutionalist? Yes, I am really quite insane. 
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Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others!!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #8 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 8:54pm » |
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If agreeing with the current law makes me a racist.....so be it!
Question: What do you get when you ask for "welfare" in Mexico?
Answer: A map of the United states.........and thats no fucking joke!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 9:12pm » |
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Oh, thats just the beginning Jonny. Did you see the pics of a high school in California where the "students" tore down our flag and replaced it with a Mexico flag? Believe it.
Like all your consumer goods packaged with foreign writing on them?....oops too late.
English is this Country's language. Learn it like my ancestors did.
Don't expect me to kiss your butt and learn some other language to accommodate your disrespect for our Country.
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I do look like my avatar...But I swear to God I am not a bag of aqua colored french fries
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others!!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 9:38pm » |
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Dave, we've had this discussion many times already, I just don't know if you were around at the time.
This is not a racist issue. Immigrants came into this country and went through legal proceedures and had to learn what was required before they became citizens. They did not sneak over any borders.
To come to this country (or any other) and make demands for welfare, medical coverage, etc. without paying taxes is just WRONG.
I NEED medical coverage. I'm 70 years old and have worked and paid taxes since I was 16 years old.
I feel sorry, and pray for the people who have to live under the sad conditions that they do.... but Illigals have no right to be here...period. If people want to come here, let them do it the right way. Then and only then will they be welcome.
Do you know of one good reason why it should be any other way?
Edited to ask: If you are an American citizen, then of course your wife and children are! That's the way it works. Are you employed and paying taxes? That's the way it should work. What are you trying to say?
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Re: Why?
« Reply #11 on: Sep 17th, 2007, 11:40pm » |
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"....grows a set of huevos..."
What do eggs have to do with this?
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Re: Why?
« Reply #12 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 10:26am » |
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Goes back to the PEOPLE of this country taking BACK this country and TELLING the ELECTED officials what WE want and SEEING that it's done.
We saw what can happen when the country gets it's panties in a wad -- but we let it slide and didn't keep up the uproar and now it's back to business as usual. This is not something that can be a one-time letter/phone campaign and then go back to watching your sitcoms and forget it. Ya gotta keep after them guys in DC or they're gonna slip somethin' past us.
If ya really care ya gotta do the yellin' where it'll do some good -- congressmen and senators have the "power" WE give them. We GIVE and WE can take away (at the voting polls). But we gotta get off our apathetic butts to do it.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #13 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 11:43am » |
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Fear.
Our politicians are afraid to lose a vote or two and business doesn't want to put celery pickers on the books.
What a country.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #14 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 5:17pm » |
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on Sep 17th, 2007, 9:38pm, DonnaH wrote:Dave, we've had this discussion many times already, I just don't know if you were around at the time.
This is not a racist issue. Immigrants came into this country and went through legal proceedures and had to learn what was required before they became citizens. They did not sneak over any borders.
To come to this country (or any other) and make demands for welfare, medical coverage, etc. without paying taxes is just WRONG.
I NEED medical coverage. I'm 70 years old and have worked and paid taxes since I was 16 years old.
I feel sorry, and pray for the people who have to live under the sad conditions that they do.... but Illigals have no right to be here...period. If people want to come here, let them do it the right way. Then and only then will they be welcome.
Do you know of one good reason why it should be any other way?
Edited to ask: If you are an American citizen, then of course your wife and children are! That's the way it works. Are you employed and paying taxes? That's the way it should work. What are you trying to say?
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You betcha Donna, couldn't agree more. I am trying to say that this very issue never gets resolved because of the way it is stifled by those who don't want to see action. The very things you point out are the obvious all of us already know. What is ridiculous is that when someone does, it always reverts to a race issue. Never been any good discussion of solving this problem in Washington as far as I have seen. If someone had tackled this simple issue, we wouldn't even be talking about it. My wife & kids were used as only an example of how if I bring it up, someone always reverts to the race issue....which is obviously very silly. I.E. it's a very bad excuse to use to ignore a problem.
Check it out some time, your very valid points NEVER even enter the argument...never!!! It's always the same old clap-trap....you get accused of having some evil ulterior motive.
BTW, no I haven't been here long enough to have caught the last discussion.
Ah, Kathy knows what huevos are...also slang for balls. 
I think Barbara & Charlie were getting what I was trying to say. Yes, I am glad some people like Jonny stand up and don't let it deter them. And is up to us to put pressure on politicians.
Unfortunately I have seen a few decent politicians try to address this issue and they get shouted down every time by groups screaming racism. They end up giving up in disgust or fear of losing votes.
See what I'm sayin now?
Cheers, Dave
I forgot, Charlie added about the businesses that are doing their level best to stifle the issue.
Know what? You better believe it !!! I know, I've seen it first hand. When I lived in Texas, some of the best stone masons I have ever met were illegals. Know what they made an hour? 4 bucks !!! I knew people personally that hired them and were happy about it. Why would they pay me $20 an hour when they can get same for less??? They have laws pertaining to this, but get real !!! They obviously don't work
I dont know what the answer is to that, but I think Charlie has a good point regardless.
I do know one thing...BarbaraD is right in what she said and likely gives the best solution for me. I too an guilty of not doing enough. I try to write them when I can, guess I better get busy eh?
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Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others!!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #15 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 5:57pm » |
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Did you really think an amnesty bill would just go away because the people said NO and it was voted down?
Guess again.....here comes the new one, they just call it something else. Dont these mother fuckers listen to us?.....(Dumb question)
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Re: Why?
« Reply #16 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 6:30pm » |
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Round and fucking round we go!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #17 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 6:48pm » |
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Watch this one, it tells you more than I can explain.
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I do look like my avatar...But I swear to God I am not a bag of aqua colored french fries
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others!!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #18 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 7:07pm » |
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Here in Nevada, yesterday's newspaper said, just over 1000 people were granted citizenship. The largest number granted citizenship in one day in Nevada.
Guess who was waiting outside the Courthouse after the swearing in ceremony?
Both the Republican and Democratic party representatives ready to registar voters.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #19 on: Sep 18th, 2007, 7:14pm » |
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You betcha Bob...stinks don't it !!
Here, just in case anyone here thinks the issue is only about our inability to secure our borders...watch this video. I have known about the aztlan movement for a long time now.
You can stand up for your states, or ignore it and give them away.
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I do look like my avatar...But I swear to God I am not a bag of aqua colored french fries
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others!!
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Re: Why?
« Reply #20 on: Sep 19th, 2007, 6:09pm » |
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Illegal alien shoots cop in the face
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C.J. Maniates, 59, of Phoenix donates his Purple Heart on Wednesday to the fallen officer memorial on Pinchot Ave and 24th Street in Phoenix. Maniates was awarded the purple heart from his three tours in Vietnam and wanted to dedicate it Officer Nick Erfle.
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Re: Why?
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Re: Why?
« Reply #22 on: Sep 19th, 2007, 9:03pm » |
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We need to fight the fucking war right here on OUR soil!!
Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total
U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
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Re: Why?
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Ninety-five percent of warrants for murder in Los Angeles, Calif. are for illegal aliens.
Eighty-three percent of warrants for murder in Phoenix, Ariz. are for illegal aliens.
Eighty-six percent of warrants for murder in Albuquerque, N.M., are for illegal aliens.
Seventy-five percent of people on the "Most Wanted" list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
Twenty-five percent of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals who are here illegally.
Forty percent of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Forty-eight percent of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Twenty-nine percent (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons occupy our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
More than 53 percent of burglaries in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
More than 70 percent of all cars stolen in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California are stolen by illegals.
Forty-seven percent of drivers stopped by police in California have no license, insurance, or registration; and of that 47 percent, 92 percent are illegal aliens.
Sixty-three percent of stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, insurance, or registration for the vehicle. Of that 63 percent, 97 percent are illegal aliens.
Sixty-six percent of stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, insurance, or registration; and of that 66 percent, 98 percent are illegals.
A recent study by Pew Hispanic Center reveals Hispanics are two times more likely to be incarcerated than non-Hispanics.
They are 3.8 times more likely to be imprisoned for murder than non-Hispanics and Hispanic youth are more likely to be found in gangs.
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Re: Why?
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