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Believe it or not!
« on: Sep 8th, 2007, 3:08pm »
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You be the judge.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 5:04pm »
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I'd have to say that it presents some pretty strong evidence. However, the problem seems to be that there is no way to get away from it other than minor reductions in exposure.  Undecided
 
I do have a cell phone, but I use it about 1/2 hour a month.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 6:08pm »
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Life expectancy is what 75?
 
Seems to me that we are living longer, how come we are not dropping like flies?
 
Its a Hmmmmm, to me.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 6:38pm »
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It seems to me that its a big catch-22. We've created technology to "better" our lives, but by that very technology we condemn ourselves to health issues. So we create different technology to undo the damage we've done, thereby giving ourselves more time to do more damage.
 
Collectively, we suck.  
 
I think I'll go back to baking bread over an open fire...with my bleached,  processed flour, irradiated milk, iodized salt, hormone fed chicken eggs, etc   Like I said, we suck.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Believe it or not!
« Reply #4 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 7:35pm »
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My opinion?  It's a shock piece.  Warning - standing on linoleum floors will give you cancer!  Using your cell phone will fry your brain!  Rock and Roll is the DEVIL's Music (or a communist plot - you decide).
 
The only real and true fact in any of this is that we are ALL GOING TO DIE.  We seem to have forgotten the simply and inescapable fact that life is ALWAYS fatal.  
 
Hiding in your basement to avoid radiation from the sun while drinking purified water so as to avoid as many contaminants as possible while never using a cell phone or sitting in front of a computer screen ain't much of a life.  Not to mention there's probably radon in my basement as well as killer mold and dead mice which will give me the killer Hanta virus . . . .  
 
Death is a given - it's how one lives ones life that matters.  
 
I personally want to die with as few regrets as possible.  I don't want to regret not cell-phoning my aunt when I think of her fondly.  I don't have to regret never getting to a Clusterhead convention - I have no regrets about marriage or having a child . . . . I could go on forever.
 
I like to think that rather than leaving a perfect corpse because I never did anything that MIGHT harm my body, I'll arrive graveside with a grande latte in one hand, chocolate in the other, and a cig dangling from my lips muttering "whew - what a ride!!"
 
 
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Re: Believe it or not!
« Reply #5 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 8:10pm »
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:35pm, Mosaicwench wrote:

 
I like to think that rather than leaving a perfect corpse because I never did anything that MIGHT harm my body, I'll arrive graveside with a grande latte Jim Beam Black Lable in one hand, chocolate glass of fine Merlot in the other, and a cig dangling from my lips muttering "whew HOT DAYMN - what a ride!!"
 
 
 

 
 
Just a slight variation my sister..but well said!!!
 
Can I get a Blessed Be and an Amen to that?!?
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Re: Believe it or not!
« Reply #6 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 8:34pm »
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:35pm, Mosaicwench wrote:

 
Death is a given - it's how one lives ones life that matters.  
 
I personally want to die with as few regrets as possible.  I don't want to regret not cell-phoning my aunt when I think of her fondly.  I don't have to regret never getting to a Clusterhead convention - I have no regrets about marriage or having a child . . . . I could go on forever.
 
 

 
MW, that's one of the finest things I've seen anyone say on this board.  
 
Best wishes,
 
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 9:03pm »
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 8:34pm, George_J wrote:

 
MW, that's one of the finest things I've seen anyone say on this board.  

 
Aw George - you'll turn my head with praise like that!
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 9:23pm »
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Just a slight variation my sister..but well said!!!
 
Can I get a Blessed Be and an Amen to that?!?

Blessed Be, Amen. ied be realy happy if "they", removed all chemicals from all products. there only there for profit. andrew.          modfyed to add. ied like to live till i was 100.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 9:37pm »
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:35pm, Mosaicwench wrote:
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Death is a given - it's how one lives ones life that matters.  
 
 
<sermon over>

 
 
AMEN !  
 
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Re: Believe it or not!
« Reply #10 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 11:02pm »
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In the 1700's and early 1800's they were called Ludites!
 
Back then they were warning of the dangers of the Industrial Revolution.  The "studies" cited have been discredited a number of times for using falsified data, for using a carefully selected pool of subjects, and for not conforming to scientific norms.  The brain tumor case cited in the lawsuit was won by a lawyer like John Edwards using junk science, and then was thrown out on appeal as having no merit.  Electomagnetic radiation from power lines has been discredited every time action has been brought against them.  
 
The biggest cause for the increase in Alzheimers, Parkinsons, and Cancer has been shown to be the increasing life expectancies we are experiencing.  If we were to all die at the advanced age of 48 as the average American male did in the late 1700's we wouldn't have to worry about them at all.
 
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 12:29am »
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Interesting stuff, Jerry.  Smiley
 
 
 
on Sep 8th, 2007, 11:02pm, Callico wrote:
Electomagnetic radiation from power lines has been discredited every time action has been brought against them.

 
Of no consequencial relation at all to the statement, just while on the subject of EM/R, we pick up some of it whenever a TV set is tuned between stations -- creating perhaps 1 to 5 percent of the snow-like static that fills the screen. *  Never mentioned as any possible problem before back when poor reception was common.  Oh yeah, Mom.  "Don't sit so close to the TV!"   The things Mom's know, science is trying to catch up.   Grin
 
 
 
* stuff from a book.
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 1:34am »
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Pretty silly thing to worry about. Working in the cornfield is more dangerous. No bottled water here. What a con.
 
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Warning - standing on linoleum floors will give you cancer!  Using your cell phone will fry your brain!  Rock and Roll is the DEVIL's Music (or a communist plot - you decide).  
                                                I'm in big trouble !
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 11:02pm, Callico wrote:
In the 1700's and early 1800's they were called Ludites!
 
Back then they were warning of the dangers of the Industrial Revolution.  

 
A bit of a tangent, but....
 
As some of you probably know, EJ is a historian.
 
A while back, she was doing some research through early nineteenth-century newspapers in New England, and ran across something she'd never seen commented upon--the number of people killed by trains when they first came out.  Train fatalities were quite common, and the nature of the accidents might strike us as a little odd--people were always getting their heads or limbs whacked off by bridges and signs and nearby wagons, and so forth.  
 
She speculated to me that the speed at which trains travelled and the force behind a very large moving object were realities that just hadn't sunk into people's minds yet.  So they'd stick their heads or hands out of a moving train for whatever monkey reason occurred to them, and subsequently lose pieces of themselves.
 
I think it takes awhile to get used to most new things, and that we'll adapt to the things that are quickly becoming ubiquitous.  
 
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Did You Know That Since the Introduction of Cell Phones:
     
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 Sperm counts are down 35%
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 Brain cancer has increased by 25%
 
 *Testicular cancer is up 50%
 
So, if we are to believe the above information, (a)we can tout it as the new form of birth control for men and (b) just where in the hell are men carrying their cell phones.
 
I think I'll go in the kitchen and make me a tinfoil hat to protect me from all those harmful rays out there (don't laugh folks, this is a true story~Jimbo and I are ham radio operators and at one time belonged to a club.  There was a particular member.  He lived next to/under high lines.  He was convinced that they were emitting *rays* that were destroying his and the family's brains.  So......he made them all tin foil hats to wear to stop the electromagnetic rays from eating their brains!).
 
 
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Tin foil acts as a reciever for electronic waves.....Grin
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      Brain cancer has increased by 25%
 
 *Testicular cancer is up 50%
 

Correlation = Causation?
 
I think not.
 
Now, I'm off to form a new tin foil panty liner.
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Correlation = Causation?
 
I think not.

 
 
Makes you wonder if there even is any correlation.  Last I read, it was southern Italian taxi drivers that had the lowest sperm count due to driving small cars with closed legs all day, and inside heat.    
 
 
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 11:39pm »
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Transistor radios, cell phones, microwaves, TVs...and on and on. Old stuff. What a con.
 
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In the 1700's and early 1800's they were called Ludites!
 
Back then they were warning of the dangers of the Industrial Revolution.  The "studies" cited have been discredited a number of times for using falsified data, for using a carefully selected pool of subjects, and for not conforming to scientific norms.  The brain tumor case cited in the lawsuit was won by a lawyer like John Edwards using junk science, and then was thrown out on appeal as having no merit.  Electomagnetic radiation from power lines has been discredited every time action has been brought against them.  
 
The biggest cause for the increase in Alzheimers, Parkinsons, and Cancer has been shown to be the increasing life expectancies we are experiencing.  If we were to all die at the advanced age of 48 as the average American male did in the late 1700's we wouldn't have to worry about them at all.
 
Jerry

 
Way to go Jerry!
 
The best answer to the Luddites is; "Ancient kings would have changed places with you in a heartbeat!"
Think about it.
 
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I like to think that rather than leaving a perfect corpse because I never did anything that MIGHT harm my body, I'll arrive graveside with a grande latte in one hand, chocolate in the other, and a cig dangling from my lips muttering "whew - what a ride!!"

 
Well said Pat!  Where is next weeks sermon?  I'll be in attendance  Grin
 
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on Sep 9th, 2007, 12:53pm, Brewcrew wrote:

Correlation = Causation?
 
I think not.
 
Now, I'm off to form a new tin foil panty liner.

 
 
Am I the only one wondering why Brewcrew is wearing panties?  Undecided
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Am I the only one wondering why Brewcrew is wearing panties?  Undecided

Yep. Apparently so.
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