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WARNING: NEVER DO THIS DRUG !!!!
« on: Sep 6th, 2007, 10:53pm »
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Plz, promise me here and now ! There's no reason to ever need or want it ... DON'T DO IT !! NOTHING GOOD CAN COME FROM IT !!
 
I _______________ WILL NEVER, EVER DO THORAZINE, EVER ... I PROMISE !!  
 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 12:16am »
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I have received this numerous times for headache - including in IV pushes and IV piggybacks.  In fact, a month ago when I started having a lot more problems with the CH, the NP wrote me a prescription to take it at night.  While it can have a lot of side effects (and I've experienced some pretty nasty effects with this at various times I've received it), it also sometimes buys me an entire night's sleep pain free.
 
So - I'll be one to say that it's one of the few things that has helped me when in desperate need of relief!
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 2:18am »
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LMAO ... I mean no disrespect Carrie ... but I assure you, you didn't get the dose that I got ! I'll guarantee that if you get a dose big enough, it WILL cause you physical AND mental problems. I know you're a nurse and all, and I'm sure you know alot about medications ... but I speak from experience .... If you're taking Thorazine, you're playing with fire! It can screw you up and give you memories that you will never forget! Do you know what they originally prescribed this for? They gave it in sanitariums to keep the patients as zombies !! NO JOKE !! I'm sure there are sites that are pro and con, but I'll stick with this one: http://www.sntp.net/drugs/thorazine.htm
 
Better stop now Carrie before you see the truth !
 
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 3:42am »
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Jesus Michael - I'm glad you're out! ((HUG)) I'dread that site before, I have it bookmarked but it doesn't fail to send shivers up my spine each time I do read it.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 7:45am »
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I will NEVER touch the stuff again.  I had it by iv once and it made me wild and sicker than a dog.  I will not touch it again.  Mistake was ever letting a dr convince me to try it in the first place.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 7:57am »
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Personally, I've never done this drug, but I do know people who have and have seen the *after effects*.  The thorazine shuffle is not my idea of an afternoon walk.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 8:21am »
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One of my friends who was diagnosed with major depression was put on this drug by his psychiatrist and plunged so far into despair that he committed suicide 2 months later.
 
His son said that he was totally off his mind while taking this drug, he couldnt think logically and couldnt even hold a conversation longer than a couple of minutes.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 9:29am »
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Thorazine Shuffle lyrics
 
Thinking about yesterday
And how my life used to be
Now Iım locked inside this place
Iım a schizophrenic case
All the faces I now see
Never show a sign of glee
Every night we start to bustle
Itıs time to do the Thorazine shuffle
Itıs the Thorazine shuffle
Everyday half past four
They push my food through the door
Every night right at eight
They put me back into my straight
All the paintings I have made
They look kind of strange
Every night we start to hustle
Itıs time to do the Thorazine shuffle
Itıs the Thorazine shuffle
 
By Savatage.
 
Here's another one.
 
Thorazine Shuffle
by Warren Haynes & Matt Abts
Stand by to stand by
Ain't no need to worry today
Thorazine shuffle make everything OK
I know how you feel
You say you need your highs and lows  
But what if you could take your pain  
And just let it go  
 
Step right back and watch me now
I'll show you how it's done  
Stay right here with me now  
'Til the damage is done  
And the damage is done  
 
Time drags by  
When you're boring  
Don't care what you do care what you say
There comes a time  
When you got to let the monster inside you  
Let him come on out, come on out and play  
 
Step right back and watch me now  
I'll show you how it's done  
Stay right here with me now  
'Til the damage is done  
 
Step right back and watch me now
I'll show you how it's done  
Stay right here with me now  
'Til the damage is done  
And the damage is done  
 
Stand by to stand by  
Ain't no need to worry today  
Thorazine shuffle make everything OK
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 10:59am »
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Im with you Michael...NEVER.  I watched both the immediate effects and long term, of people that are on Thiorizine as a daily med.
 
The immediate...the patient was forced to take it.  He was "agitated", more like angry due to be instigated by a patient.  The staff immediately went for the the Thiorizine...he had a choice of taking it orally  in a drink..a LARGE glass...if he refused that, well he would get an injection.  This WAS A KID for God's sake.
 
He succumbed to drinking it.  He crawled...if you could call it that...more like drug himself on his side to the bathroom...where he preceded to vomit violently...it get's worse, but I'll spare the details.
 
I was put on depakote by Jefferson...started at a low dose.  I completely lost my personality...and became a zombie.  I had a friend drive me to the pharmacy, and struggled to ask the pharmacist if this would improve...i.e. if I would adust to it.  He said, "NO" it will get worse as the dose increases.  I went home and flushed them down the toilet.
 
From what you are saying, Depakote is like taking a placebo compared to Thiorizine.  NEVER.  A FIRM NEGATIVE.  Im sorry you had to experience that hell...stuck inside of your head and body...it's going to get better.   Sherri
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 3:05pm »
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 Michael, I to have had this drug injected and had a horrible and long term nightmare from it.
 
 lost a couple of months of my life as a result!
 
 I am signing on the dotted line!!!
 
 Thanks Bro, and glad your out Grin.......Tim
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 7th, 2007, 6:51pm »
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Drugs?
 
I dont do them.....any of them legal or not!  
 
Well, I do have to do Verap for HBP. Grin .....Not for CH  headbanger
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 2:09am »
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Just because it didn't work for you, does not mean that it might help someone else ...
 
Just post your results, and let people decide for themselves ...
 
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 12:14pm »
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Michael,
 
Yes, I have received it at very high doses.  The first time I received it, my mom had to stay over at the hospital with me.  I woke up having some sort of night terrors - but then was yelling and screaming about things.  It was horrible.  As I said, I have seen the horrors of this drug.  I have had to take other meds to combat the side effects of this drug.
 
HOWEVER, now when I've been given it, it's been at a lower dose that basically helps more than hurts when I really need it.  When desperate, I'll do whatever helps me....
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 2:09am, ClusterChuck wrote:
Just because it didn't work for you, does not mean that it might help someone else ...
 
Just post your results, and let people decide for themselves ...
 
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 1:55pm »
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One time, about 15 years ago, I went to the ER with a kip 10.  After the bright lights in the ER, the pupil reaction test (another light), all the basic neruo tests (sqeeze my hand, push against my hand, etc), they gave me IV thorazine.  Then they let me drive myself home.
 
I don't remember the drive home.
 
I went to my wife-to-be's place and she put me into bed.  I fell out a few times, but did not wake up.  18 hours later I woke up with a heck of a hangover.
 
Ain't no way I'll ever let them do that to me again.
 
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 6:15pm »
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Okay Chuck & Don, maybe I shouldn't have posted quite the way I did ... but I feel so strongly about it. I've had Thorazine before at lower doses and not had such the effects ... but this time I had a horrible experience with it. It truely was a nightmare I will never forget!  Cry
 
I see NO use for this in the treatment of cluster headaches! At high doses, this is NOT going to help or stop a cluster headache IMO. It will however help others around you ... they won't have to hear you scream because you won't be able to (for awhile). You're brain will be cut off from your body!
 
If you are not currently having a psychotic episode, it may produce psychosis, according to a psychiatric doctor I spoke with today from Wellstone of SO. IN. ... he stated what I most likely experienced was an 'allergic reaction' from the med simply because I'm NOT psychotic !
 
So ... after all that's been said ... I'll restate it for those of you that might have been offended ... I will never do this drug again, and I hope none of you will either (for the treatment of cluster headache).
 
Goodluck !
 
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 7:26pm »
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Mike,
 
All you did was tell us what you went through......fuck these ass-holes that think they know everything........I sure as hell dont know EVERYTHING! and I have been doing this for more than thirty years......Fuckem!
 
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I see NO use for this in the treatment of cluster headaches! At high doses, this is NOT going to help or stop a cluster headache IMO.

 
I agree. That wasn't in your orginal post.
 
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Not in his orignal post he didn't.
 
Thorazine has long been used, successfully, for those that have psychotic episodes that could potentially harm themelves or others.
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 8th, 2007, 9:40pm »
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Michael,
 
I was given Thorazine in a high dosage when I had a distonic reaction to phenergan not to long ago. I would rather deal with the Linda Blair type reaction then go through what I went through with the Throrazine ANY DAY!!  
 
I, Lindsay, WILL NEVER, EVER DO THORAZINE, EVER (AGAIN)... I PROMISE !!  
 
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:57pm, chewy wrote:
Not in his orignal post he didn't.

 
Since when were you appointed board posting police?
 
on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:57pm, chewy wrote:
Thorazine has long been used, successfully, for those that have psychotic episodes that could potentially harm themelves or others.

 
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on Sep 9th, 2007, 1:31am, Jonny wrote:

 
Since when were you appointed board posting police?
 
 
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You didn't get the memo?

 
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on Sep 8th, 2007, 7:57pm, chewy wrote:

 
Thorazine has long been used, successfully, for those that have psychotic episodes that could potentially harm themelves or others.

 
 
 
Recently with all the new antipsychotic drugs available that have proven to have less side effects than Thorazine such as Zyprexa and Abilify, less and less doctors ( psychiatrists mainly ) are still using Thorazine even for bad psychosis.  
 
Why run the risk of bad side effects if one can avoid it?  
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 9th, 2007, 6:32am »
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I'm with Mike on this one. I was in a headache clinic in Houston (before I left I told the doc he was a KOOK and a few other unladylike things!) and he put me on thorozine and it was awful. AND this was a "world renowned neuro!" Yeah right and a kook to boot!
 
Back in the 50s and 60s they gave the stuff to drunks coming off a binge to get them over the dts.  
 
Oh hell, let's face it -- we hurt so damn bad we'll try anything they throw at us. I look back at some of the stuff I've taken (including thorozine) and cringe. and if I just had the money I've spent on meds, I wouldn't even need to win the lottery! Sad
 
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