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GLOBAL WARMING
« on: May 24th, 2007, 6:36pm » |
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HI:
Would some of you Happy Americans please send Al Gore and some of his Global Warming buddies up here. We got 8" of snow last nite and the temp. is just above freezing and I need help shoveling snow. If this is Global Warming I would hate to see it get cold.................Vern
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #2 on: May 24th, 2007, 6:45pm » |
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I hear ya.
There is a mountain near me that has snow on it all year and people ski.
You are in the Northern Rockies and you got snow?!?!
Wow, Al Gore IS full of shit, huh?
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #3 on: May 24th, 2007, 7:27pm » |
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on May 24th, 2007, 6:45pm, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:| Wow, Al Gore IS full of shit, huh? |
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Yes, he is!
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Global warming.........Al Gore invented it 
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #5 on: May 24th, 2007, 7:40pm » |
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What was Al Gores electricity bill again for all of his houses? His word means nothing to me. 
I have one of those mountains that have snow on it all year long also Brian. Care to go skiing? Snowboarding?
Happy Americans, huh?
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #6 on: May 25th, 2007, 10:17am » |
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Everytime I hear about Al Gore and Global Warming I picture Chicken Little in my head running all over telling everyone the sky is falling  .
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #7 on: May 25th, 2007, 10:18am » |
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OK here's the thing about Global Warming - if it's not real (and I don't buy that for a minute) what's the harm in reducing carbon emissions?
However if it is real, and people don't change their behaviors, we're doomed. The planet is not doomed, mind you. Life will go on, some way somehow. Just not life as we know it.
Why risk it?
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #8 on: May 25th, 2007, 2:00pm » |
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That's a fine argument there, Mike.
Only it's not as binary as that.
Are you saying that we should all embrace chicken little because even if he's wrong, only good comes from the actions we take?
Al Gore (mr. carbon BigFootprint himself) keeps referring to this as a failure of the 'administration'. Who is he talking about? Chinese administrators? Russia?
How can we have *ANY* measurable effect on the carbon footprint of this world when China brings a new coal-fired plant online about every 3 day when America hasn't built even one refinery in over 30 years (that's about 11000 days)
I think it's nonsense. Nobody who disagrees with Al is saying that reducing energy consumption is a bad thing. Making America weak by imposing nonsensical laws is just stupid. If Al got his way, we would be part of the Kyoto treaty.
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on May 25th, 2007, 10:18am, MikkaB wrote:OK here's the thing about Global Warming - if it's not real (and I don't buy that for a minute) what's the harm in reducing carbon emissions?
However if it is real, and people don't change their behaviors, we're doomed. The planet is not doomed, mind you. Life will go on, some way somehow. Just not life as we know it.
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Doomed? Change is the engine that drives adaptation. Adaptation is what ALL life on earth has thrived on.
Take your gloom and doom scenario and go back 12,000 years. Lots of global warming going on then! In fact so much warming went on that the ice sheets that covered much of North America are gone! Didn't hurt life on earth to much from what I can see. In fact it thrived. Things change and life adapts. End of story.
Conservation of energy and resources if fine but remember that knee jerk reactionism is sometimes worse in the long run. Case in point...MBTE that was shoved down the publics throat by the politicians in the name of the environment....funny how THEY are responsible for polluting huge tracts of ground water with their knee jerk legislation.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #10 on: May 25th, 2007, 3:27pm » |
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well I don't think it's knee-jerk reactionism. And adaptation happens over many generations. Climate change is happening faster than it has in the past.
I don't think it's a chicken little scenario, either.
As far as your China argument, we can only be responsible for ourselves.
What "nonsensical" laws do you mean? And how will that make America weak?
It's Mikka, btw, not Mike. or Dianna, which is my real name.
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funny that they are finding human artifacts where glaciers just retreated, esp since the ice was suppose to be there for hundreds of thousands of years. I believe in good stewardship of our resources, but the global warming frenzy is just media sensationalism. Bad science, and a way for you to change the way you live, even though those who preach it don't follow their own advice. They are better than you. Do as I say, not as I do.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #12 on: May 25th, 2007, 5:36pm » |
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Global warming, as put forth by the fringe wacko left (for whom Algore is nothing short of God on Earth) is 100% politics. Those who refuse to see it have been sucked in by it and cannot admit they've been sucked in.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #13 on: May 25th, 2007, 5:41pm » |
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As long as you can save your posts and thoughts on the subject and very, very proudly hand them to your great-great grandchildren so they can see the rationale for justification to debunk it all, without a return look of disbelieving embarassment from them, that will be a telling tale.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #14 on: May 25th, 2007, 6:09pm » |
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on May 25th, 2007, 5:26pm, Maffumatt wrote:| even though those who preach it don't follow their own advice. |
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Yeah, Als electric bill in his mansion is something like $1500 a month, mine is about $80 a month and I have a three bedroom house.
Theres already talk of taxing SUV drivers more than car owners.....Al dont mind, hes a fucking millionare!
Unfucking real what some peolpe will be sucked into!!!!!
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on May 25th, 2007, 3:27pm, MikkaB wrote:well I don't think it's knee-jerk reactionism. And adaptation happens over many generations. Climate change is happening faster than it has in the past.
I don't think it's a chicken little scenario, either.
As far as your China argument, we can only be responsible for ourselves.
What "nonsensical" laws do you mean? And how will that make America weak?
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Past decade? Perhaps. Past 150 years? Perhaps. Past 10,000 years...doubtful. Past 500,000 years? Do you have a refrence from a refereed publication to augment your statement?
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #16 on: May 25th, 2007, 7:05pm » |
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I'll wait for more from Steven Hawking.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #17 on: May 25th, 2007, 7:47pm » |
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Sorry Dianna, I didn't mean to get your name wrong.
Nonsensical laws... how about laws that force higher production costs on the US manufacturers because ofsome boogyman?
Sometimes I think the liberals (oh God, I said liberal) just want to 'level the playing field' so that we don't offend the world with our success. God forbid.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #18 on: May 25th, 2007, 8:00pm » |
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on May 25th, 2007, 7:05pm, Charlie wrote:| I'll wait for more from Steven Hawking. |
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The figuring of mass into gamma radiation through the use of black holes for recycling didn't make the list of Earth Day 1974 innovations. 
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #19 on: May 25th, 2007, 8:29pm » |
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Uhhhhh.... OK 
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #20 on: May 25th, 2007, 10:40pm » |
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Oh!...Okay. let's title a thread about potential consequences of human activity in an unprecented time of over-population and energy depletion of the Planet and the inability of said Planet to support that unfortunate circumstance beyond the next several of generations. And, furthermore, lets attach Al Gore to it.
Easy pick'ins Peeps.
Should what "independent thinkers" are saying by simple scientific observations is true, than things are indeed in flux. The Greenland Ice, North Polar reigon and the Anartic ice shelf are depositing large amounts of fresh water into the Worlds oceans. That's a fact. Observation is simple Science.
One possible result of this fact is that the Worlds natural Global ocean current will be affected. Ironically, one of the possible manafestations of this disruption (of the Gulf Stream), due to enormous amounts of fresh water discharge into the Atlantic, may have radical impact to the climate Europe. It is predicted that Europe could slowly plung into an Ice Age. Interesting. Global warming ..indeed.
Don't discount the uncomfortable observations by many others by attaching an easy target to a potentially serious event. If Mr. Gore turns out to be the biggest blowhard canary in the cage, than so be it.
Now..everybody...stop farting.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #21 on: May 25th, 2007, 11:32pm » |
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HEY YOU AMERICANS:
All I wanted was some help getting rid of my snow, I didn't mean to start a continent wide debate, besides the sun came out, the snow left and it's +18 (Woops that's 65 to you non- metrics). Maybe it was GLOBAL WARMING.............Vern
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #22 on: May 26th, 2007, 12:52am » |
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Those in denial are George Bush and his lamebrained friends from places like Kansas and other red states populated with politicos, that would like us to believe that Fred Flintstone's riding dinosaurs is history.
That about says it all for me.
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on May 25th, 2007, 11:32pm, lonedog wrote:HEY YOU AMERICANS:
All I wanted was some help getting rid of my snow, I didn't mean to start a continent wide debate, besides the sun came out, the snow left and it's +18 (Woops that's 65 to you non- metrics). Maybe it was GLOBAL WARMING.............Vern |
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING
« Reply #24 on: May 26th, 2007, 9:29am » |
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whoa there, John - don't pick on Vern. He lives about an hour and a half northwest of me and, believe it or not, getting snow in May ISN't the norm in Canada. I know all y'all think we're pretty much igloo bound wearing sealskin boots most of the year but...when we get ripped off for our summer - we have every right to bitch about it. Vern's probably trying to get his branding done this time of the year too and these freak snowstorms really mess things up for our ranchers.
Vern, I hear ya man. This was a sucky week here! 7000 trees down here in Calgary from that white crap the other day! I saw a tree fall on a minivan and all the windows popped out. I've got my annuals all in too and, luckily, only lost a couple. Gorgeous day today - we're supposed to hit 20° today (that's about 72° in the old system). Mike's building us a beautiful new cedar deck right now and this weather really slowed him up this week. He's screwing the boards on today though!
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