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BarbaraD
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Confederate History Month
« on: Apr 20th, 2007, 7:34am » |
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My son told me last night that this is Confederate History Month. Funny no one has mentioned it. He said he read it in the paper (on page 32).
No Confederate Flags flying -- No mention of Gen. Lee? No mention of Jeff Davis (one of my great great relatives by the way)?
Is it politically INCORRECT to mention our Confederate HISTORY? WE are a part of History whether anyone wants to remember it or NOT. Why shouldn't we get EQUAL Rights too. We gave a lot to the world - like manners, peach pie, barbeque, moonshine, and lots of other things.
To all the Sons and Daughters of the Confederate out there -- Happy Confederate History Month!!!
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #1 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 7:39am » |
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The boys fought considerably well for their cause in their call to duty for their country as they knew it or were told it to be.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 8:14am » |
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My great-great grandfather, Ben Davis, died as a confederate soldier. Life most confederate soldiers, before the war he was a simple farmer who never owned a slave, neither did any of his forefathers. Like most history, it gets rewritten by whoever has the biggest mouth.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #3 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 9:35am » |
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Stars and Bars !!!!!!!!
I have a deep family history in the south. Mom's from Alabama, so I know we must have had at least a few who fought. But for those who know me, know that I'm a lover and not a fighter. I mean I really, really, really love the ladies. So it wasn't a total surprise to find out one of my relatives ( A great uncle of my grandfather) was a man named Dr. Marion Simms. For you ladies (and Chuck) he is known as the father of Gynecology.
I guess that's why I'll pass on a musket for a piece of tail anyday!
Hmmmm. the dog just ran out of the room for some reason............
Anyway, it's a sad day when we have to ignore our nations history just to be pc!
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #4 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 9:49am » |
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American by birth, Southerner by Grace of God, and a Texan to top it off.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #5 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 10:50am » |
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Our PC society likes to hide truth by rewriting history. Slavery was neither side’s primary issue leading to the civil war.
Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee no more wanted to take over Washington, D.C. to advance slavery than George Washington wanted to take over England to make London a State.
No one can argue that the abolition of slavery was necessary, but history conveniently uses this noble cause to hide less noble Northern interests. Abraham Lincoln - "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Abolition of slavery was a tool for gaining much needed support from abolitionists for a floundering war over power and rights.
South Carolina Senator John C. Calhoun expressed these concerns as Andrew Jackson's vice-president - "Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail." The Confederacy opposed transition from a Constitutionally guided Republic, granting States and individuals rights into a Democracy guided by mob rule.
Another bone of contention - tariffs enacted to protect large northern manufacturing interests. Referring to those tariffs, Calhoun said - "The North has adopted a system of revenue and disbursements, in which an undue proportion of the burden of taxation has been imposed on the South, and an undue proportion of its proceeds appropriated to the North." The South exported a large percentage of its output, mainly agricultural products; therefore, import duties on foreign products extracted far more from the South than the North. Southerners paid high prices for northern-made goods and high tariffs on foreign-made goods. They fought against federal laws precisely like those that angered the Founders and lead to the 1776 war for independence.
The War Between the States was fought by the Confederacy to avoid the political disaster this nation faces today - a federal government that has escaped the limits of power granted it by the Framers of the Constitution.
The outcome of The War Between the States was the beginning of the end of Constitutional freedoms in America. It established a federal government with unlimited powers, usurped States/individual rights, and virtually eliminated recourse against federal bureaucracy. A derelict U.S. Supreme Court ignores its duty to interpret the letter and spirit of the Constitution. The checks and balances defined by the founders essentially vanished at this point in our history.
This translated into more than 70,000 federal regulations/mandates controlling the lives of every American citizen, ever escalating cost/control of government and no accountability. It also translated into dangerous interpretations of the "commerce" and "welfare" clauses of our Constitution in ways the Framers never envisioned - it created the fourth and fifth branches of government – Corporate Interest and Special Interest.
Slavery conveniently became “The Issue” to provide the North a noble reason for war. The Confederacy fought against the dangers of a run amuck federal government. Hiding the Confederate flag, Jefferson Davis, and Robert E. Lee behind the evils of slavery is historical injustice. History should present fact – not convenient fiction.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #6 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 10:59am » |
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The winner writes the history......
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #7 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 6:36pm » |
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Quote:| Our PC society likes to hide truth by rewriting history. Slavery was neither side’s primary issue leading to the civil war. |
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Actually, this is very true.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #8 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 6:47pm » |
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on Apr 20th, 2007, 7:34am, BarbaraD wrote:| No Confederate Flags flying |
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #9 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 7:16pm » |
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on Apr 20th, 2007, 7:34am, BarbaraD wrote:
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The Confederate flag is flying in South Carolina.
Mrs. Hillary is advocating to have them removed. 
She don't like it one damn bit....oh well *sigh*
Seems the Confederate flag has become a real part of our "redneck-ness"....LMAO
I love being from the South... 
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #10 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 7:44pm » |
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I love being back in the south.
Just went out and bought a tv to put on top of the other tv that doesn't work.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #11 on: Apr 20th, 2007, 8:06pm » |
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on Apr 20th, 2007, 7:44pm, JeffB wrote:I love being back in the south.
Just went out and bought a tv to put on top of the other tv that doesn't work.
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Re: Confederate History Month
« Reply #12 on: Apr 21st, 2007, 12:07am » |
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Burnt Toast got it right! The emancipation proclaimation of Abe Lincoln did not free all the slaves, just those of the states of the Confederacy. The purpose of the proclaimation was to try to get the slaves in the south to revolt. He could not free all of the slaves because Delaware, West Virginia, andone other northern state that I cannot recall right now had slaves. My great-great grandfather sold slaves, but also signed the secession papers seceeding WV from VA to keep it in the Union.
Historical economists know that slavery was a dying institution at the time of the war between the states, and would have been nearly ended within a generation because the cost of keeping slaves was more than most could produce on an annual basis.
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