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Let the revolution begin
« on: Apr 19th, 2007, 1:54pm » |
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This is from my daughter, Hannah, who asked me to post to you.
yes, cho, let the revolution begin.
those were his words: "let the revolution begin!"
yes, let the revolution begin. this is a challenge?
bring it on.
this IS the begining of a revoution. revolution begins when people get fed up. they get pissed. they get active. they rebel against the mainstream. yes, this is a revolution.
people are fed up with listening to tragedy on the news. people are sick of watching people get shot, get robbed, blow each other up, hate each other. people are sick of it. they are tired of sadness, of hurt, of apathy. they are tired of watching our mainstream culture become more and more disenchanted, brutal, calloused.
now, we get active.
let the last shot Cho pulled be the last bullet. let it be the fatal wound, yes, let it be a killer. that last bullet is the end. it is the death of a culture that allows violence against themselves and each other. it is the death of apathy. it is the death of hate, the death of our ignorance. please, someone talk to me, who isn't changed because of this. there is no one left untouched, but let no one be mislead: there will be rebirth after this. there is hope, there is so much hope. and the flower that will bloom from this disaster will have unchallanged beauty.
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #1 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 1:56pm » |
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #2 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 2:51pm » |
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on Apr 19th, 2007, 1:54pm, JenniferD wrote:This is from my daughter, Hannah, who asked me to post to you.
yes, cho, let the revolution begin.
those were his words: "let the revolution begin!"
yes, let the revolution begin. this is a challenge?
bring it on.
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First of all, you should be very proud of Hannah for asking you to post this. She's one very astute young woman.
Is this a challenge? I think Cho meant it to be one, but, I also think it SHOULD be one.
The apathy among the US citizens is disgusting. Just on my local level (not even going to go into the national level), most of the "voters" go the polls and vote for a person just because they recognize the name. The rest, don't vote at all, yet complain the loudest when their taxes go up. Nobody seems to actually read about, research about, learn about the people who they are about to elect to represent them. They deserve exactly what they get.
Maybe this tragedy at Virginia Tech will open a few eyes. Maybe Cho's challenge will open a few ears and minds.
APATHY! This is what is going to bring this country to its knees, and maybe it is time for a challenge.
I personally will challenge each and every one of you who read this thread to stop being the following lamb. To stop expecting the "status quo". To stop expecting your local or national government to "take care of you". To stop voting the "party" and start voting the man/woman.
How about starting to take stock of what's happening in all aspects of this country, from your local dog catcher, which effects you personally, to national issues that effect us all.
I vote for making the word apathy a thing of the past.
So, is it time for a revolution in this country? Quite possibly. But, it will never happen until we all face the fact that this world is changing rapidly, and "status quo" is a thing of the past.
Sorry, off soapbox now.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 2:53pm » |
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I don't know what that means, but if it is giving up Liberty and giving up the Right to bear arms, currently the polls are about 60/40 in favor of being armed.
Unfortunately being armed is the only way for being safe, and having liberty.
These events we are faced with have been brought to us by the anti gun people who want to just get along no matter the price.
My family suffered murder by knife Easter 99, of 2 elderly people, one a female laywer working past retirement, and her husband a 30 year military disarmed by the state, who also worked Kodak another 30 years as classifed.
The crimonal had been shot in the ankel the day before for stealing knives and the bleeding hearts released him.
Later we found for years he had torched little animals and pets, and became bolder and bolder each time being socialy up graded.
You yourself are responcible for you and yours, make no mistake. No one else will do this task for you.
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #4 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 5:40pm » |
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I'm sorry that this entire situation happened to you and your family.
Let me say from the get go...US citizens have the absolute right to bear arms. OK, are we straight on this.
The shooter at Virginia Tech was an exchange student, living in this country LEGALLY,but was not a citizen of this country.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but our constition gives US citizens the right to purchase and bear arms. Where does it say that an alien, not a US citizen, but living here legally also has that right?
IMHO, for whatever that is worth, Cho should never had the right or opportunity to legally purchase a firearm in this country. Sure, he could have bought off the street, but he didn't. He bought his Glock 9 legally. How many students and teachers were killed by that Glock 9 weapon. Had he not been allowed to purchase legally, perhaps it would have taken him a while longer to obtain this weapon off the street. But how many innocent lives might also have been saved because of this delay?
Nobody will ever be able to take away our rights to own a weapon to defend ourselves, to hunt, or just because we want one. The constitution says this is our right.
However, why is this constitutional right, granted to supposedly US citizens, given to every Tom, Dick and Harry who comes to this country, legally with visas and green cards?
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #5 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 5:49pm » |
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on Apr 19th, 2007, 2:53pm, Mac_Muz wrote:JenniferD,
I don't know what that means, but if it is giving up Liberty and giving up the Right to bear arms, currently the polls are about 60/40 in favor of being armed.
Unfortunately being armed is the only way for being safe, and having liberty.
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Sorry, but I'm not sure how you got anti-gun legislation out of Hannah's words or how the VT events were caused by anti-gun people.
You yourself are responcible for you and yours, make no mistake. No one else will do this task for you. [/quote]
That, I believe, is exactly Hannah's point: that we ARE responsible, but not only for ourselves and our own, but we are also responsible for making changes in our communities and in a broader scope, in our world.
I AM very proud of my daughter, for seeing that it IS up to us to say "enough" of the bullshit that we just turn a blind eye to. Even on a small scale, each and every one of us CAN make a difference in social changes.......and I am NOT a bleeding heart liberal yappin rhetoric and trying to pump sunshine up everyone's a$$.
Maybe Han has the same tendencies as her mom by being Pollyanna-ish and wanting to make a difference in the world, but at least I set an example to both my kids by actually DOING things to make a difference. And for them to follow suit, again I must say that I am quite proud of the good things they do in the world around them.
I truly feel for you Mac and I am sorry for your loss. My family too was affected by a horrible murder just 1 year ago. Am I for banning all blunt force objects because of it? No. I AM for harsher sentencing, much the same as you probably are.
Sandy, I agree with you wholeheartedly: it IS up to us to make informed decisions; again, that is Hannah's point. And I stand with you and Han, making apathy a thing of the past.
Love to you all,
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #6 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 6:16pm » |
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Apathy is the problem, and I think someone should do something about it soon. 
Good piece by Hannah. Give a big hug and a thank you for thinking. It will be up to her generation to take up the slack as ours grows older. I wish all would take the time to THINK as they grow up and not just react or emote as so many do.
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BTW, the resident aliens have constitutional rights because the same ones decided that that decided our prisoners down in Guantanimo have US constitutional rights. "That is a truck load of male bovine fecal matter IMHO.
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Re: Let the revolution begin
« Reply #7 on: Apr 21st, 2007, 2:37pm » |
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on Apr 19th, 2007, 2:53pm, Mac_Muz wrote:JenniferD,
I don't know what that means, but if it is giving up Liberty and giving up the Right to bear arms, currently the polls are about 60/40 in favor of being armed.
Unfortunately being armed is the only way for being safe, and having liberty.
These events we are faced with have been brought to us by the anti gun people who want to just get along no matter the price.
My family suffered murder by knife Easter 99, of 2 elderly people, one a female laywer working past retirement, and her husband a 30 year military disarmed by the state, who also worked Kodak another 30 years as classifed.
The crimonal had been shot in the ankel the day before for stealing knives and the bleeding hearts released him.
Later we found for years he had torched little animals and pets, and became bolder and bolder each time being socialy up graded.
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oh god, where do i even start here...
#1. this post had nothing to do with gun legislation; that is a seperate isssue intirely. it had everything to do with the nessisity of changing the way we as people view the world around us, and the way we treat ourselves and each other.
#2. the fact that you used the tragedy your family walked through as your example proves the original point. guns dont kill people, people kill people. and that's the issue at hand. if cho had no access to a gun, he could just as easily made a bomb, grabbed a knife, swung a bat. he simply picked up a gun. though yes, he should not have had access to it, there should have been a more thorough background check, the fact remains: nothing will change until we stand up and stop allowing oursleves to feel hate, to give hate, and to particpate in the worst hate of all -to ignore the suffering of others. to change radically the way people think is to change the desire to hurt one another. and that's a beautiful change.
#3. "These events we are faced with have been brought to us by the anti gun people who want to just get along no matter the price."
so anti-gun legislators aching for peace caused the tragedy at tech?
ladies and gentlemen, i smell a genius in our midst.
#4"You yourself are responcible for you and yours, make no mistake. No one else will do this task for you."
hmm, let's see. "you and yours" could be defined as "you, your family and friends", i.e., "the people you love." ok. i love my family and friends. my family (let's use my mom for example) loves more family, family i've never met, and she loves her friends, whom i've also never met. she loves the people on this board. the people on this board know and love their family and friends. so we're all connected.
i AM responsible for, and i DO love, "me and mine". but "me and mine" just so happens to go beyond people i've spoken to, people i'm related to, people i know, because i'm intellegent enough to know that man cohabits this earth with other men, and in order to prosper, we cannot ignore the suffering of others.
if we were only responsible for ourselves and our immediate relations, as you so suggest, than none of us should give a crap about your dead relatives. but that's not the way the world should be, that's not the way the world CAN be. we DO care. i mourn next to you, beloved, and i've never spoken to you, i wouldnt reconigze your face. but i feel sorrow for "you and yours", because in reality, it's the same as "me and mine." realizing this is the first step. to love is the next.
by the way, this is hannah.
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Re: Let the revolution begin
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ahem, child o mine........ while I do love your passion, I am going to GENTLY tell you to mind your tone.
I love ya, you know that, but I won't be able to keep braggin on ya iffen ya come on with a pissy attitude and ya SURE as hell won't make too many friends either. 
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Pleased to meet you Hannah, your mom is one of the loveliest people I know and you should be as proud of her as she is of you.
That was a very moving post and I for one am glad I had the chance to read it.
Looking forward to getting to know you better
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 21st, 2007, 3:12pm » |
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Hello Hannah,
In as much as I live a civilized life, am opposed to unnecessary violence, try to be a good sport, help others and make these choices daily... I guess I'm already part of the revolution. I would venture to guess that most of us on this site are part of that revolution.
Maybe the trick is to bring it a step further. Maybe it's not enough. Random acts of senseless kindness is not a new concept. I guess it's always easy to be nice when things are going well for us... I strive to achieve being nice in the face of duress and stress. I guess it's the ideal that a civilized society aspires too.
At any rate keep fighting the "Good fight" and nice to meet you. Now... post more often and show us some of your artwork.
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Hannah, nice response. 
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on Apr 21st, 2007, 2:48pm, JenniferD wrote:ahem, child o mine........ while I do love your passion, I am going to GENTLY tell you to mind your tone.
I love ya, you know that, but I won't be able to keep braggin on ya iffen ya come on with a pissy attitude and ya SURE as hell won't make too many friends either.
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i had a "tone"? i know not of what you speak, mother dear. 
and i wasn't being pissy. granted, i have to pee really bad, but i was just making my point.
i probobly should pee though.........
oh, yeah. hi, everybody.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 21st, 2007, 5:08pm » |
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Yeah; it is a good post. Good for you.
TV and communication is what I've come down to as why so much apathy and violence. People don't grow up. They think the real world should be like what they see on the tube. It ain't and when they find it out, sometimes they go nuts. If you're lucky, life can be a helluva lot more fun than tv. Like Howard Beal said: "TV is a goddamn amusement park.....it's you people that are real...."
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on Apr 21st, 2007, 3:07pm, Jonny wrote:
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Hi Hanna, i don't understand metaphor well. For all my life I never had Peace, and I mean ALL my life.
So I didn't understand your words, I read them after your mother replied to me and still couldn't understand your words.
Since then the Nor Easter kept me a little busy bailing the house.
And tonight I read your words 12 times and still couldn't understand you words.
I had my wife read it, and she told me what you meant.
Not every one can in life always be so enlightened. Some people see only a certain reality, and mine hasn't been filled with seeds with power to bloom.
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Is the answer One if by Land 2 if by Sea?
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OK, so its time for the positive revolution to begin.
What does it mean in practicality that we should do?
What specific, practical actions that I can start taking right now?
Talk is easy, only actions count.
Someone tells me?
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