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Gun restriction in the usa
« on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:05pm » |
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Gun restriction in the USA
All opposed say Nay
All in favor say Aye
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #1 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:08pm » |
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Tony the only problem would be the ones who want the guns are gonna get them anyhow - so why penalize the honest guys?
I'd have to vote NAY.
Frankly I want the government OUT of my business.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #2 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:13pm » |
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Tragic as today has been, banning won't stop it.
NAY
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #3 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:19pm » |
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I don't think banning will make any difference, those who commit crimes do not follow the law in the first place..What a ban would do for them?
I have to say NAY...
I want to have the option of defending myself just in case and I do own a gun and my husband made sure I know how to use it.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #4 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:20pm » |
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If a couple of people there had guns this probably would have had a better out come.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #5 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:20pm » |
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Quote:Frankly I want the government OUT of my business.
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You take away guns and the only guns that will be left will be in the hands of criminals.
It's not the guns, but those sick individuals who are bent on death and destruction. Five children were killed here yesterday by their cousin who poured gasoline on the front porch and set the house on fire at 3:00am. The parents survived. Guns were not involved and the senseless deaths happened anyway.
I vote NAY.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #6 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:24pm » |
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Tony,
What say you? Yea or Nay?
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #7 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:25pm » |
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on Apr 16th, 2007, 6:20pm, Jonny wrote:If a couple of people there had guns this probably would have had a better out come.
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I agree with Jonny!
Nay, Nay Nay!!!
An armed populace are citizens.
An Unarmed populace are subjects.
I have a constitutional right to defend myself and my family and I will do it if necessary (but as luck would have it I live in one of only TWO states in the Union without a concealed carry law).
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #9 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 6:32pm » |
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This is one of the biggest problems that I have with the "left", the want to make guns illegal, so now I can not protect myself from criminals who are STILL GOING to HAVE guns, because they are CRIMINALS and are going to break the law anyway. You only make the law-abiding citizen a sitting duck for the the CRIMINALS who will have guns no matter what.
edit to add "nay for gun restrictions"
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #10 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:17pm » |
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"They'll pry my gun from my cold dead fingers".
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #11 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:20pm » |
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on Apr 16th, 2007, 7:17pm, deltadarlin wrote:| "They'll pry my gun from my cold dead fingers". |
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Me too, Darlin....
I guess if they try I'll become a criminal.... 
cause I'm not giving up that right...
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #12 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:23pm » |
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Yea!
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #13 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:30pm » |
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Nay, nay, a thousand times nay!
(Oh, yeah - I only get one vote)
Before Sandy voted, I thought I was starting to see the one common thread amongst CH'ers. Thus I was led to believe that if we all surrendered our firearms, we'd be cured!
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #14 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:33pm » |
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NAY!
When guns are outlawed, this outlaw will have one. (or more) 
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #15 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:38pm » |
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Nay.
As The Mule indicated, if the shooter knew that every classroom had one or two people who were packing a legal concealed weapon, none of this would have happened today.
A 'law' is not going to keep firearms out of the hands of illegals.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #16 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:41pm » |
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Blaming the gun for the crime is like blaming the pencil when the word is spelled wrong.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #17 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:46pm » |
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Nay,
Washington, DC often ranks as the murder capital of the nation, yet has the most restrictive gun laws in the country. In more than 25 years following the DC gun ban, its murder rate has increased 51% while the rest of the nation experienced a 36% decrease.
It’s easy to make knee jerk decisions in the face of senseless tragedies. It’s even easier when pushed by those interested in advancing their own agendas on the backs of such tragic and senseless events.
Not long ago we were dealing with the nut-job that ran people down on a campus with his car. The fact is when a seriously disturbed individual decides to go on a rampage there isn’t much to keep them from finding ways to carry out acts of senseless violence.
In the event that I am unlucky enough to cross paths with such an individual, or come face to face with an a$$hole that wants to rob or hurt my family - I prefer to be well armed and capable of ending the miserable SOB’s reign of terror - right then and there.
There will be at least one less victim for the police to count when the finally get there.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #18 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:49pm » |
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Nay.
Would restrictions do any good? I seriously doubt it. Any attempt to ban firearms in private hands would likely be a symbolic gesture, and nothing more.
There are without doubt more than a hundred million firearms in private hands in the US. There's no shelf life, so a carefully concealed firearm could be passed down to ones' descendants as a fully functioning heirloom. Restrict ammunition? Heck, illegal substances aren't even remotely under control, despite the efforts of thousands of enforcement personnel and the expenditure of billions of dollars. Making ammunition isn't exactly high tech.
I'll never forget a video I saw, years ago, showing Afghan rebels during the time of the Soviet occupation BUILDING AK-47/SKS automatic weapons. They forged them out of raw materials, and carved the stocks out of wood. The weapons worked just fine.
It's minds that have to be changed, not laws. Much harder--but the only thing that will create a different world.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #19 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 7:50pm » |
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Here is my 'concealed carry' story of the month.
All of my friends & I carried back in PA. Getting a permit is as easy as stopping by the courthouse, filling out a form, getting your pic taken, then waiting for the permit to show up.
Anyway... my buddy Jeff sold something to a person in Halifax... a rural town. He was using his GPS to find the address, but the GPS was going flaky... telling him to turn right where only a corn-field existed.
A trash couple decided they did not like how slowly my buddy was driving, thus they proceeded to ride his tail, flipping him the bird. After a mile or two Jeff pulled over, letting the trash drive on by.
The rednecks decided to pull on over with him and kick his ass. The guy jumped out of their shit car, yelling up a storm as only trash can, and walked up to his window ready to slap him around. His mate was not happy, screaming at Cletus to get back in the car.
The simple words 'Dude, I have a gun and will fucking kill you.' were all it took.
He did not even have to pull it. The guy wordlessly climbed back into the car and drove away, without looking back.
Moral of the story... no, you cannot have my firearms.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #20 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 8:03pm » |
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Obviously, I'm in the minority. But, let me define my definition of "gun control".
Every citizen of this country should be allowed to have a gun. I have one.
Gun control, in my most humble opinion, should be limited to what type of weapons we can privately own.
Why do I need an automatic weapon, when the handgun I already own can do the job? A couple of bullets in the intruder's chest, problem solved.
Why does a hunter need a weapon like an AK47 to kill a deer? If that's his weapon of choice, then he's not much of a hunter.
I think that if this country began to regulate the import and sale of automatic weapons, and stop the import of these weapons, maybe, just maybe, we might begin to read a little less about tragedies like the one that happened today.
Again, YES, we all can be armed to protect ourselves. Just how much firepower do we need for our personal protection?
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #21 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 8:12pm » |
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on Apr 16th, 2007, 8:03pm, Sandy_C wrote:| Just how much firepower do we need for our personal protection? |
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Just a little more than the bad guys.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #22 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 8:14pm » |
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on Apr 16th, 2007, 8:12pm, Brewcrew wrote:
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #23 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 8:22pm » |
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on Apr 16th, 2007, 8:03pm, Sandy_C wrote:| Again, YES, we all can be armed to protect ourselves. Just how much firepower do we need for our personal protection? |
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I keep hearing gun control framed in the terms of 'how much does a hunter need' or 'how much does one need for self defense'.
Actually, in some interpretations of law the ability to 'keep arms' has to do with maintaining the ability to overthrow the government should it become necessary to do so.
Example:
On the 10th anniversary of the our occupation of Iraq, the draft is reinstated. Both your kids are going, but by some stroke of luck the children of government officials are absent from the draft list, or all end up on stateside duty.
Since the Supreme Court was stacked with extreme right wing justices, all legal challenges have failed.
In short, government is broken and needs to be replaced.
You decide to do something about it.
You have a single shot slug gun (cuz that is all you needed to hunt) and a 22 revolver (cuz that is all you needed for defense).
Just an example, but not something horribly difficult to imagine.
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Re: Gun restriction in the usa
« Reply #24 on: Apr 16th, 2007, 8:39pm » |
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My perspective from a country that does have gun restrictions:
NAY!!
the perpentrator, as a majority, regardless of their intended crime, will be armed with some sort of premeditated weapon. be it knife, scissors, lead pipe, baseball bat, bloodied syringe, hammmer or gun.
I believe that a 'public' crime (unknown victims) would be lessened if victims had the possibility of being armed.
as for 'private' crimes (ie. spousal, family) they are still going to occur.
We need a balance of power in favor of the victim(s).
However, there does need to be SOME level of restriction. as Sandy said, 2 bullets to the chest is just as effective as 22. there is no need for automatic weapons.
as an after thought I wonder how many petty crimes have been commited in order to finance themselves with a black market weapon for the real intended crime.
p.s. not that it matters, however i have never even seen or handled a firearm.
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