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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 1:56pm »
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i'm most often a believer that someone driving their point home to demonstrate their disgust here at CH.com by going guest is "high drama". I also believe that the Community's strength here is bigger than one person.
 
But, Jonathan is one awfully big part of this community and his departure, whether dramatic or not, and should he choose to stay "guest", makes our community less than it was with him here.
 
I hope that those of you involved in his last thread can rationalize the difference between making whatever point you were making with his departure.
 
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #2 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 3:03pm »
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on Aug 14th, 2006, 1:56pm, seasonalboomer wrote:
i'm most often a believer that someone driving their point home to demonstrate their disgust here at CH.com by going guest is "high drama".

 
Or maybe they've just had enough? If there's one thing Flo isn't it's dramatic. Frankly, I don't blame him a bit. A few of us are just a click away, ourselves.
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #3 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 3:18pm »
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So...since I was in on that thread, I am part of the problem?  I am not allowed to voice my opinions, beliefs, morals and values and defend them.  Even if they are challenged at every turn?  Shouldn't each person on the board be held in high esteem, because "we all bring something to the table"?  Granted, I don't know as much about meds and the like as Flo, but when people have jumped all over my posts, I never turned guesst.  Maybe I should feel somewhat responsible for his departure, but to tell you the truth, I don't.  During the last Presidental election, I was wholly roasted by Flo, Chewy, Charlie, Pittsburg Joe and the like for my views and my backing the Republican Party.  I still came to the board every day, took the hits as they came and when I finally got sick of it, I didn't make a scene, take my ball and go home, I just stopped clicking the icon.  I did come back after a month or so, but I didn't go and make a huge scene of that, either.  If everyone wants to cry racism, bigotry, homophobia, etc.  Well then everyone needs to take a good look at themselves.  If you are unable to see, understand or acknowledge a differing viewpoint aren't you being bigoted toward that position?  Maybe it's just me, but I think it is.  
So, if you feel that I'm responsible for all of this, then give me a time-out or ban me.  Or better yet, why don't we just drop the open General Posts forum and then no one will get their collective panties in a bunch.  I'm being pretty flippant about this because I've been very berated in the past over my views, more than Flo was getting by a long shot and he was throwing mud with the rest.  If you play on the Internet and hold views that are opposite of others, than you are going to have to have very thick skin when it comes to what people are going to say.  If not, then maybe you need to stay off the threads that tweek your nose.  If you noticed, the thread in question was the first political thread I've posted on in about a month.  I was sick of the BS and having to defend my positions to the likes of Flo, so I stopped posting on them.  Maybe he should have done the same.  YMMV  HTH
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #4 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 3:33pm »
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on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:18pm, Tom K wrote:
So...since I was in on that thread, I am part of the problem?  I am not allowed to voice my opinions, beliefs, morals and values and defend them.  Even if they are challenged at every turn?  Shouldn't each person on the board be held in high esteem, because "we all bring something to the table"?  Granted, I don't know as much about meds and the like as Flo, but when people have jumped all over my posts, I never turned guesst.  Maybe I should feel somewhat responsible for his departure, but to tell you the truth, I don't.  During the last Presidental election, I was wholly roasted by Flo, Chewy, Charlie, Pittsburg Joe and the like for my views and my backing the Republican Party.  I still came to the board every day, took the hits as they came and when I finally got sick of it, I didn't make a scene, take my ball and go home, I just stopped clicking the icon.  I did come back after a month or so, but I didn't go and make a huge scene of that, either.  If everyone wants to cry racism, bigotry, homophobia, etc.  Well then everyone needs to take a good look at themselves.  If you are unable to see, understand or acknowledge a differing viewpoint aren't you being bigoted toward that position?  Maybe it's just me, but I think it is.  
So, if you feel that I'm responsible for all of this, then give me a time-out or ban me.  Or better yet, why don't we just drop the open General Posts forum and then no one will get their collective panties in a bunch.  I'm being pretty flippant about this because I've been very berated in the past over my views, more than Flo was getting by a long shot and he was throwing mud with the rest.  If you play on the Internet and hold views that are opposite of others, than you are going to have to have very thick skin when it comes to what people are going to say.  If not, then maybe you need to stay off the threads that tweek your nose.  If you noticed, the thread in question was the first political thread I've posted on in about a month.  I was sick of the BS and having to defend my positions to the likes of Flo, so I stopped posting on them.  Maybe he should have done the same.  YMMV  HTH  

 
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #5 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 4:01pm »
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I think the wah wah, let me hug your booboo crowd should stay out of the true discussion threads (they like to call them slamfests).  They tend to get us off subject and add worthless posts to the discussion making it more difficult to carry on our discussion.
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #7 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 4:08pm »
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on Aug 14th, 2006, 4:01pm, Bob P wrote:
I think the wah wah, let me hug your booboo crowd should stay out of the true discussion threads (they like to call them slamfests).  They tend to get us off subject and add worthless posts to the discussion making it more difficult to carry on our discussion.

 
so, if you're negotiating a ceasefire would that mean that you are willing to stay out of any of the truly intelligent conversations regarding politics or world affairs....
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 4:11pm »
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I think the wah wah, let me hug your booboo crowd should stay out of the true discussion threads (they like to call them slamfests).  They tend to get us off subject and add worthless posts to the discussion making it more difficult to carry on our discussion.

 
So this must be one of your "worthwhile" posts?  Roll Eyes   Helluva way for an OUCH official to talk to an OUCH volunteer...
 
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #10 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 4:23pm »
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on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:33pm, seasonalboomer wrote:

 
good to see you have such a thick skin and let things just roll off your back too.....       
 
I hold many who I don't particularly agree with on the political issues and moral issues in high esteem here on the boards because of their overall contribution.  
 
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I have told Flo, Chewy, Charlie, Pittsburg Joe, and various others, over the years about how much I respect their stand on various issues.  This thread is the first time I have written about the digs I took over my political views a few years ago.  I never let it taint my view of the people who I respected.  Since my first post to this thread was in response to being "called out" for changing Flo to guesst, I decided to share some experience of my own.  If that leads to you think that I am harboring ill toward any of those folks, so be it...
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Re: floridian turned guesst?
« Reply #11 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 4:43pm »
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Or maybe they've just had enough? If there's one thing Flo isn't it's dramatic. Frankly, I don't blame him a bit. A few of us are just a click away, ourselves.

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« Reply #13 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 5:11pm »
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Geeze.  
 
I read the thread but didn't get that Flo split. Damn. I need him here. There must be something political about CH as so many neo conservatives and people to the right of Louis 14th are inflicted with this horror.  Roll Eyes
 
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I read the thread but didn't get that Flo split. Damn. I need him here. There must be something political about CH as so many neo conservatives and people to the right of Louis 14th are inflicted with this horror. Roll Eyes" alt="" border="0">
 
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And I was going to say the same thing, only the fact that Lefties somewhere between Stalin and Castro are the only ones with CH...go figure... Huh  I guess it all depends on where you stand. Cool
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Everyone is entitled to there opinion and should not be hammered for it, unfortunately some people can’t let that go and have to try and make you change your view.
 
Flo, I seriously doubt that we would agree on most political things but I don’t think you should depart this dysfunctional family over this, we all need each other so everyone who was fighting go to your room for a time-out then lets all play nice again.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 14th, 2006, 5:34pm »
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As long as I have known Flo....he has never ran from a debate, it could be that something else in his life is wrong......who knows, I just know that the dude has some pretty thick skin to deal with the likes of me for all these years.
 
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Anybody consider the possibility that it's an administrative oops? I was looking to send another member a PM yesterday (this person sits on the BOD), and they, too, were listed as "Guest." They're not anymore.
 
Maybe there was some administrative housecleaning going on. Every once in awhile, I forget to push a chair back after I've vacuumed under it.
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Well, I just want to say, for those like me that don't have their paths cross much with political or religious issues, though they've come into view but interest didn't take me in that direction, I see views presented here that can be enlightening.
  However, when a facet of thought on the subjects is presented that is difficult to identify with, or not a compatible scrutiny, it has been nice to always see another side presented, a countering view that has aspects also ringing true.  
  Without saying anything, I guess I always took for granted Jon would provide that for me, continuing to always stand alone on the shore against the tide rolling in.  He would be there for those like me that have little confidence in that arena.  I'll miss his immmense contributing of arcs to the circle of facts.
 
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I know I DIDN'T say anything bad......I'm onea them useless driviler's that tries to keep the shiney side up Pam  
 
I thought Flo to be onea the toughest here.....not to mention SMARTEST and rather 'respected' ta boot......maybe it was a glitch ??  
 
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And I was going to say the same thing, only the fact that Lefties somewhere between Stalin and Castro are the only ones with CH...go figure... Huh  I guess it all depends on where you stand. Cool

 
Since when did prudent fiscal policy, smaller government, separation between church and state and civil rights become Stalinist?
 
Get a clue, Dude.  Sorry to flame, call me a flammer if you want, but you gotta get a clue.  You are a dittohead, a parrot.  You are repeating what you heard, but you have no idea what it means or what it is referring to.
 
I bet you think gay marriage is Stalinist too, huh?
 
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Its obvious you listen to Druggie Limbaugh.  
 
 
No offense, bro, its nothing against you personally, you just dont have a clue when it comes to politics.  Sure, you heard some buzzwords, but it would be a good idea to find out what liberal policy and conservative policy IS before you start parroting.
 
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on Aug 14th, 2006, 8:56pm, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

 
Since when did prudent fiscal policy, smaller government, separation between church and state and civil rights become Stalinist?
 
Get a clue, Dude.  Sorry to flame, call me a flammer if you want, but you gotta get a clue.  You are a dittohead, a parrot.  You are repeating what you heard, but you have no idea what it means or what it is referring to.
 
I bet you think gay marriage is Stalinist too, huh?
 
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Its obvious you listen to Druggie Limbaugh.  
 
 
No offense, bro, its nothing against you personally, you just dont have a clue when it comes to politics.  Sure, you heard some buzzwords, but it would be a good idea to find out what liberal policy and conservative policy IS before you start parroting.
 
Ok, Im done, now go ahead and talk about blow..jobs and stained dresses.
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Hmmm, and folks wonder why political discussions get heated.  
 
Big difference between discussion and belittling.  One constructive, the other NOT!
 
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 One constructive, the other NOT!

 
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Hmmm, and folks wonder why political discussions get heated.  
 
Big difference between discussion and belittling.  One constructive, the other NOT!
 
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I wasnt belittling.
I was telling Tom that he needs to find out what these words mean, and who in the hell Stalin was before he starts parroting what he heard.
No offense.
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In respect to a reference to Stalin, other than being a misused example for exaggeration, appears an opinion that shows unfamiliarity with the one of a kind pure criminal to become a world leader, and being used for any comparisons seems not in any ball park.  
  As humor, requires at least two smileys and a real good wink.
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