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Choppy waters for penmanship
« on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:07pm » |
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Can everyone still read their own handwriting anymore. I could hardly read mine so I changed to printing but that's just not writing fast enough and became barely legible too.
I think with all the computer typing and having nice letters appear on a screen my handprinting needs to stay "for my eyes only" to get any interpretation, like a doctor's prescription. Signing my name looks like flunking fourth grader. Does anyone still handwrite at work or home up to a page in length?
Legible writing used to be important but it doesn't seem to matter as much anymore except when I have to decipher what I wrote and can just get by.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #1 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:12pm » |
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Interesting...most people who can read my writing really like it  Its got a creative edge LOL!
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #2 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:18pm » |
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I can hardly read what I write.......makes for interesting times after a meeting. "Now what the heck was I told to handle?"
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #3 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:19pm » |
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on Jul 27th, 2006, 9:12pm, broomhilda wrote:| Interesting...most people who can read my writing really like it Its got a creative edge LOL! |
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Yes, it does. It can be fun to read expessive and creative handwriting, it says a lot. Mine creatively tells me "learn to type dammit".
on Jul 27th, 2006, 9:18pm, Racer1_NC wrote:I can hardly read what I write.......makes for interesting times after a meeting. "Now what the heck was I told to handle?"
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Somehow I seem to expect what I write will be understood later.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #4 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:38pm » |
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When I was 12 (and was getting bad grades in handwriting) I found an article in the newspaper about bad handwriting.
It said that in general, people who have bad handwriting are very intelligent...to the point that their brain gets ahead of their hand. If you habitually forget the first letter of a word or sentence or your handwriting looks like something a chicken with a marks-a-lot might write....I bet you are smart.
I showed the article to my mom and dad...apparantly they are smart too, they told me article or no article I still had to bring up my grade in handwriting.
All I can say is thank God for computers 
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #5 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:49pm » |
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I write pages and pages at a time. Everything I do I write out first then type up - so if I have a report to do, I handwrite it all out then type it up in whatever forum/format is needed. Part of it is because that was the easiest way for me to remember a speech when I was in competitive public speaking, just write it out long hand over and over again and you'll remember it.
I also do calligraphy, so penmanship has always been and art for me. My handwriting isn't the best but it is most definitely legible and readable with ease.
I had to chuckle at you though Kevin, my hubby has absolutely horrific handwriting so he always prints as well - and in upper case at that. He too complains it's too slow and it isn't exactly easy reading, so he types everything. The speed of writing is a critical factor in calligraphy, every stroke requires patience and practice. I find it a very nice way to slow down my life when things get hectic, since you cannot rush calligraphy and have it turn out nice.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #6 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:56pm » |
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Quote:It said that in general, people who have bad handwriting are very intelligent...to the point that their brain gets ahead of their hand. If you habitually forget the first letter of a word or sentence or your handwriting looks like something a chicken with a marks-a-lot might write....I bet you are smart.
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Donna - I really like this. I used to blame it on being lefthanded, but I think I prefer being thought of as intelligent! Not so sure anyone else in my life will buy that, but it's worth a shot.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #7 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 12:21am » |
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on Jul 27th, 2006, 9:12pm, broomhilda wrote:| Interesting...most people who can read my writing really like it Its got a creative edge LOL! |
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Yes, as Jesse fell in love with your handwriting himself.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #8 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 8:38am » |
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By popular demand (from anyone who's tried to read a handwritten letter from me) I type anything I send out.
When I was in school (WAAAY before computers - actually before electric typewriters), we hand wrote everything. I tended to leave off puncutation. Used to drive my English teacher crazy. Had a note from her (she was almost 98 at the time) about something I'd written that she read. She said she was SO GLAD I got a computer that learned to put periods instead of dashes.
Guess, like Donna D says, I'm just too "intelligent" to bother with little details like penmanship and puncutation.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #9 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 8:47am » |
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I'm getting back to hand-writing letters to a few people--not in cursive, mind you. They get a kick out of getting a real letter in a stamped envelope. But my everyday quick notations have no resemblance to third grade cursive in Mrs.
Anderson's class.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #10 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 9:13am » |
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on Jul 28th, 2006, 8:47am, pattik wrote:But my everyday quick notations have no resemblance to third grade cursive in Mrs.
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Yes, for most of my life I could write legibly in cursive too, things had to be handed in readable of course. But I've just noticed in the last few years how impatient I am to write anything out and had gone to printing, like I see some here have too. I was wondering what may happen to handwriting in the future between adults.
It seems it's saved for when you have the time to be conscious and careful or to make things special when writing, and becoming less practical for everyday use. I still can print fast, just not neat anymore, nothing I'd use for communicating any longer unless I took much more time, with a few words crossed out since it's hard to find a pencil anymore, with whiteout and a dictionary on hand too.
If I wrote out this post, it would be too much trouble to bother to read, but no more interesting than my typed posts anyway, just a lot more troublesome to scan through.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #11 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 9:24am » |
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I had the same thoughts a couple years ago and came up with the following:
My Handwriting
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by Scott Evans
I look at it as though it has leaked out of me
Like blood from a cut that wasn’t supposed to get on the paper
My thoughts end up looking so malformed
When they are scrawled across the page in my handwriting.
I want to blame it on somebody
Maybe too much time in drafting class in high school
Or not enough
Block printing is simply an unelegant style
It used to only look like this when I hurried to write something down
Now, it seems to always look crude and vulgar
Maybe the keyboard has sapped the ability to do otherwise
But I can’t help but look at something I’ve written down as being someone else’s
Beautiful handwriting used to be a symbol of grandness
Of civilized communication between educated men
Look at the documents of substance of history
And you see the flourishes and loops and precision
I simply look down at my scribbles on the pad
And feel self-conscious
Looking to my desk where my computer sits
Waiting to dress my words in any pretty font I might like.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #12 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 9:40am » |
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I like that Scott. Handwriting is just not our best foot forward anymore. 
My handwriting analysis: MIT is reprogramming for this project and hasn't got back to us yet.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #13 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 11:02am » |
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I don’t know, I have not used it so long I may not even remember how.
I did have a co-worker once walk up to me and ask me if I could read his writing, because he could not, and it was not even cursive, how bad is that?
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #14 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 11:03am » |
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on Jul 28th, 2006, 9:24am, seasonalboomer wrote:
Beautiful handwriting used to be a symbol of grandness
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Very nice, Scott. I would just like to add that it can also be seen in some of the most romantic words from the heart, like between George Bernard Shaw and Mrs. Patrick Campbell. There isn't much that can top hand-written words of affection.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #15 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 11:08am » |
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Come to think of it...
My eldest son absolutely HATES to write. He is a straight A honor student, and is in the high ability learner program; but he can't stand to actually put a pen or pencil to paper and write something out. He has a very creative imagination and can come up with wonderful stories etc. but almost always refuses to put them to pen and paper.
The solution he used for an assignment he had to do for Billy the Kid? He wrote a computer programe in game basic and coded a game for his fellow students and teacher to play.
Guess perhaps you aren't far off by saying MIT is reprogramming for this project and hasn't got back to us yet. The schools here are very good, but they prefer to allow a student to succeed in whatever method is best, and rarely forcing learning when a student is adamant and stubborn as my 14 year old red head.
Looks like penmanship may become a lost art before long....
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #16 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 11:22am » |
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Mine is so bad that I could pass for a Doctor!
You need a team of archeologists to decipher my writing!
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #17 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 12:31pm » |
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on Jul 28th, 2006, 11:08am, catlind wrote:Looks like penmanship may become a lost art before long....
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That becomes a thought Cat, with kids on computers at such an early age now and not developing handwriting further than taking notes in class. Even waaaaaay back when I was in college, some just recorded the lecture saving on note taking. Schooling with assignments by computer where possible would not involve anything handwritten either.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #18 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 12:42pm » |
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Funny you should mention this Kevin, but I just recieved a 2-page handwritten letter from Leesa Harlan(and Dave) I couldn't believe it and couldn't remember the last time anyone sent me a snail mail letter. I was not only thrilled, but her handwriting was perfect.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #20 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 1:22pm » |
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 1:24pm » |
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LMAO, Randy!!!
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Re: Kevin's Always Thinking
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******* The Analysis Starts Here *******
For a graphologist, the spacing on the page reflects the writer's attitude toward their own world and relationship to things in his or her own space. If the inputted data was correct Randy has left lots of white space on the right side of the paper. Randy fills up the rest of the page in a normal fashion. If this is true, then Randy has an unhealthy relationship to the past and has a fear of moving forward. The right side of the page represents the future and Randy seems unwilling to face the fear of getting started living now and planning for the future. Randy seems to be clinging to past events and spending lots of time thinking about what happened. It would be best to leave the past behind and move on. Stop crowding that left margin.
Randy has a very unusual lower zone y loop. If the data input is correct, Randy's y or g is large and has triangle shape to the lower loop. This is not a common trait, but the implications are very interesting. As you begin to study handwriting analysis, you will learn any loop indicates imagination. This lower loop indicates the amount of imagination Randy has regarding sex and physical things. His lower zone stroke is large, so his sexual imagination is large and open. Furthermore, because the loop has a triangle shape, this indicates a particular curiosity with certain aspects of sexuality. In a nutshell, Randy is open to some very new ideas sexually and is willing to try anything once. I'd say Randy is quite a dynamic and playful lover. Watch out world!
Randy is sarcastic. This is a defense mechanism designed to protect his ego when he feels hurt. He pokes people harder than he gets poked. These sarcastic remarks can be very funny. They can also be harsh, bitter, and caustic at the same time.
Randy is capable of seeing far into the future. He plans two, three, even ten years in advance. Randy has high goals and can literally see them being reached. He is very self-confident and has a high self-esteem. Randy will reach whatever level of success he desires. Randy has the self-concept that is possessed by less than two percent of the population. That two percent contains the most successful people in the world. When a person has a high self-esteem, he frees himself to achieve an unlimited world of success. Randy has achieved this frame of mind. Congratulations. He has the self-confidence to take great risk, thus reaping the rewards. If he does fail, it doesn't break his confidence. He knows he can do it! In retrospect of our research, this trait is one of the most desirable to possess, because it releases the writer to achieve his full potential. We recommend everyone raise their self-esteem to this level.
In reference to Randy's mental abilities, he has a very investigating and creating mind. He investigates projects rapidly because he is curious about many things. He gets involved in many projects that seem good at the beginning, but he soon must slow down and look at all the angles. He probably gets too many things going at once. When Randy slows down, then he becomes more creative than before. Since it takes time to be creative, he must slow down to do it. He then decides what projects he has time to finish. Thus he finishes at a slower pace than when he started the project. He has the best of two kinds of minds. One is the quick investigating mind. The other is the creative mind. His mind thinks quick and rapidly in the investigative mode. He can learn quicker, investigate more, and think faster. Randy can then switch into his low gear. When he is in the slower mode, he can be creative, remember longer and stack facts in a logical manner. He is more logical this way and can climb mental mountains with a much better grip.
Randy is secretive. He has secrets which he does not wish to share with others. He intentionally conceals things about himself. He has a private side that he intends to keep that way, especially concerning certain events in his past.
When Randy expresses an opinion on a issue he will stick to that opinion, and probably will not change his mind. In other words... Randy is stubborn. When he is wrong about something that he has decided upon, he will have trouble admitting he is wrong. Changing Randy's mind can be very difficult. Once Randy makes up his mind, he doesn't want to be confused with the facts!
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
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Randy has difficulty making decisions. His mind changes constantly. He lives in an emotional tug of war. Randy could be described like a thermometer. Today warm and friendly, yet tomorrow he may be distant and cold, not wanting to be close to anyone. Some research indicates that people with a severe variety in the slant of their handwriting have an inability to tolerate sugar and are suffering the side-effects of too much sugar in their diet. If moods swings are a reoccurring issue, investigate the diet. If Randy encounters a situation he cannot handle he frequently pulls into himself. He feels his emotions are secure if he is withdrawn. When he has solved the problem he can be very outgoing and again need other people's companionship. Some see Randy as very moody, but it it would be more accurate to say he has two complete personalities that he chooses depending on the circumstance. This type of person is often hard to understand because no one knows what personality he is exhibiting today. He may not be bothered by something one minute, then the next minute become upset at the same thing. It is very difficult to pin down Randy's emotional expressiveness.
People that write their letters in an average height and average size are moderate in their ability to interact socially. According to the data input, Randy doesn't write too large or too small, indicating a balanced ability to be social and interact with others.
Randy can be defiant. He sometimes has the attitude that if someone doesn't like it the way he is doing it, then they can just "go to hell!" This trait may reveal itself in a rebellious nature that is always ready to resist forces which he thinks are infringing upon his freedom of action.
According to the inputted data, Randy has a stinger shape inside the oval of his a, d, or c. This might be hard to visualize, but if this little hooklike shape is present, then Randy has an unresolved "issue" with strong members of the opposite gender. An occasional appearance of this stroke could indicate a simple "loves a mental challenge" which can manifest in playful linguistic conversations and being attracted to a lover who isn't always available. However, if the stroke is severe, this means the individual has unresolved anger at the oppostive gender - which usually started with the person's childhood relationship with the opposite gender parent (Mom or Dad). If the writer is a woman she will be attracted to strong challenging men. If the writer is a man, he will find the woman who is "hard to get" the most attractive. In a nutshell, people with stingers in their writing tend to have challenges in their romantic relationships.
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Re: Choppy waters for penmanship
« Reply #24 on: Jul 28th, 2006, 2:06pm » |
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