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rocklobster
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Re: Lemonade Fast
« on: Jul 18th, 2006, 3:20pm » |
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Alright folks, here are the results of the lemonade fast.
For those who did not read my earlier post, I began a 10 day fast on lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne red pepper in 10 oz. of pure or spring water. 6-12 glasses a day, also as much water as I wanted, but no food. This was a last resort, having nothing to lose besides a few pounds, and everything to gain. I began on Thursday July 6. The first day was the hardest, since I had never fasted even for a day, but after that, it really was quite easy. My wife fasted with me for support, which was a help. Saturday the 8th I had 2 CH in less than 2 hours and was ready to sell my soul for relief from the pain. On Monday July 10, I had 5 headaches, my worst day ever, in 40 years. I wasn't warned that during and immediately after the fast, the CH can get worse before they get better, since your system is clearing out all the crap in there.
I saw my nutritionist on Wednesday July 12, and she had me break the fast early, since she felt that the toxins had been removed. . For the rest of the day until Thursday evening, we drank water and orange juice. Thursday July 13, we had fruit and vegetables, and Friday we had our first real meal in 8 days, chicken stir fry. I lost 8 pounds, have since gained about half of it back, but I wasn't overweight anyay. Friday AM the 14th I had a killer in my office, and was really disheartened. Another cure that didn't work. However, that was the last CH. I've had shadows, but none have broken out. I'm only 3 and a half weeks into my cycle, and should be having 2-3 a day for another 2 plus months. It appears that the CH cycle has been broken. I will be fasting 3-4 times a year for 2-3 days, just to clean out the old body. Kind of like preventive maintenance. I'm also on a restricted diet for a few weeks. No dairy,except plain yogurt, no sugar, wheat or white flower (whole wheat is fine), no nightshades.
Plenty of water, lots of fruit and vegetables, fish, chicken, etc.
I know that others have advocated fasting on this site and have been belittled, but don't knock it if you haven't tried it. It sure beats injecting yourself with a needle 3-5 times a day, for months on end, and worrying if you'll run out of imitrex. Or where you'll be when the next one hits.
Ask your Dr. if you are healthy enough to try a fast before you attempt it. The lemonade fast might not work for you, but then again, maybe it will, or at least slow the cycle down.
I didn't think it would work for me, but when you're at the your wits end, you'll try anything.
Larry from Pa. (USA)
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Re: Lemonade Fast
« Reply #1 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 3:29pm » |
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Re: Lemonade Fast
« Reply #2 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 3:34pm » |
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Larry,
thank you for sharing your experiences. 
I'm sorry that it didn't work, but it's good to hear that the beast is gone for now. Hopefully for good!
Healthy diet is one of my tricks in the battle against the beast. Perhaps it is not the trick to the PF days (Red Bull is...  ), but it sure has made me feel better. I warmly recommed everyone to eat lots of fruits, vegetables, whole wheats, drink lots of water, cut down sugar and see how you feel.
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Re: Lemonade Fast
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 6:14pm » |
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on Jul 18th, 2006, 3:20pm, rocklobster wrote:Alright folks, here are the results of the lemonade fast.
For those who did not read my earlier post, I began a 10 day fast on lemon juice, maple syrup, and cayenne red pepper in 10 oz. of pure or spring water. 6-12 glasses a day, also as much water as I wanted, but no food. |
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Glad to hear of your success. Never argue with success. Could be from a couple things or a combo of things. That much cayenne over the extended period can have positive effects on substance P. Also it could be a version of the water treatment having effects.
Some people have different thoughts about why the "water treatment" works. Mine involves the temperature of the water. Were you drinking cooled or chilled water?
There is a nerve in the back of your throat called the Vagus Nerve. Cooling this nerve can have dramatic effects on pain transmission and seizures. Some people that suffer frequent seizures such as those with epilepsy sometimes get Vagus Nerve Stimulators implanted. This may also have a tie-in with why breathing cold air helps clusters.
I'm sort of in the "Ueli camp" on toxin removal theories but whatever it was that worked for you, the fast, or certain components, I'm glad it is helping!
Bobw
P.S. for anyone wanting more info on the vagus nerve, I copied the following for your reading enjoyment. For those that have heard enough about it....please hit your "back" button
The vagus nerve is the longest of the cranial nerve. Its name is derived from Latin meaning "wandering". True to its name the vagus nerve wanders from the brain stem through organs in the neck, thorax and abdomen. The nerve exits the brain stem through rootlets in the medulla that are caudal to the rootlets for the ninth cranial nerve. The rootlets form the tenth cranial nerve and exit the cranium via the jugular foramen. Similar to the ninth cranial nerve there are two sensory ganglia associated with the vagus nerve. They are the superior and inferior vagal ganglia. The branchial motor component of the vagus nerve originates in the medulla in the nucleus ambiguus. The nucleus ambiguus contributes to the vagus nerve as three major branches which leave the nerve distal to the jugular foramen. The pharyngeal branch travels between the internal and external carotid arteries and enters the pharynx at the upper border of the middle constrictor muscle. It supplies the all the muscles of the pharynx and soft palate except the stylopharyngeas and tensor palati. These include the three constrictor muscles, levator veli palatini, salpingopharyngeus, palatopharyngeus and palatoglossal muscles. The superior laryngeal nerve branches distal to the pharyngeal branch and descends lateral to the pharynx. It divides into an internal and external branch. The internal branch is purely sensory and will be discussed later. The external branch travel to the cricothyroid muscle which it supplies. The third branch is the recurrent branch of the vagus nerve and it travels a different path on the left and right sides of the body. On the right side the recurrent branch leave the vagus anterior to the subclavian artery and wraps back around the artery to ascend posterior to it. The right recurrent branch ascends to a groove between the trachea and esophagus. The left recurrent branch leaves the vagus nerve on the aortic arch and loops posterior to the arch to ascend through the superior mediastinum. The left recurrent branch ascends along a groove between the esophagus and trachea. Both recurrent branches enter the larynx below the inferior constrictor and supply intrinsic muscles of larynx excluding the cricothyroid. The visceromotor or parasympathetic component of the vagus nerve originates from the dorsal motor nucleus of the vagus in the dorsal medulla. These cells give rise to axons that travel in the vagus nerve. The visceromotor part of the vagus innervates ganglionic neurons which are located in or adjacent to each target organ. The target organs in the head-neck include glands of the pharynx and larynx (via the pharyngeal and internal branches). In the thorax branches go to the lungs for bronchoconstriction, the esophagus for peristalsis and the heart for slowing of heart rate.
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Re: Lemonade Fast
« Reply #4 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 4:17pm » |
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The lemonade mix was room temperature, though the direction said it should be warm, but who has time for that.
Thanks to all for your responses.
Another day and I'm still headache free.
YIPEE!!!
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Glad to hear you are CH free still. I have heard of some strange home remedies, and tried some disturbing ones too.
The cayenne pepper is interesting. I have been taking Cayenne pepper tabs for Fibro the past few months, and have been in remission from CH about 5 months. I am almost sure it is from the Verapamil, but wonder if the Cayenne is playing a part also.
I hope you continue to enjoy CH free time.
Peace,
Carl D
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