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« on: Jul 12th, 2006, 4:56pm »
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Anyone who remembers anything about World War II, or has studied anything
about World War II, will understand and remember that during that war the
Japanese developed a way to demoralize the American forces. The Japanese
psychological warfare experts developed a message they felt would work.
 
 They gave their psychological warfare script to their famous broadcaster,
 "Tokyo Rose," and every day she would broadcast their message packaged in
different ways, hoping it would have a negative impact on American GI's  
morale.
 
 What was that demoralizing message?
 It had three main points:
     1. Your President is lying to you.
     2. This war is illegal.
     3. You cannot win the war
 
 Does this sound familiar???  Is it because of:
 Tokyo Hillary,
 Tokyo Harry,
 Tokyo Teddy
 Tokyo Nancy,
 Tokyo Durbin,
 Tokyo Kerry,
 who have all learned from the former enemies of our country, and have
picked up the same message and are broadcasting it on:
     Tokyo CNN,
     Tokyo ABC,
     Tokyo CBS,
     Tokyo NBC?
 
     The only difference is that they claim to support our troops...before
they demoralize them.  Come to think of it...Tokyo Rose told the American Troops she was on their side, also!
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:06pm »
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Good analogy.  Priceless!  laugh
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:06pm »
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Right on the money!
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:10pm »
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Right on the Money !!! Move your business to New York----We'd be honored to have you here !!! However our assh**es vote for sh*t---namely Hilary, Chuck...
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  AMEN !!!
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:23pm »
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Our politicians and media are the worst threat we face. At least the many voices used for Rose were semi sexy and funny at the same time. "Joe ur girfrien far away at home wid ur bes frien" LOL
 
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:33pm »
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I remember my first WestPac to the Gulf when we were escorting oil tankers through the straights of Hormuz. There was this guy every night broadcasting from Muscat. He would do this F'ed up whistle for a few minutes then he would lightly sing " your mothers a monkey she wants a banana" over and over....it was friggin hillarious. I would here guys on other ships start arguments with him and then all hell broke loose with rants and cultural insults......
Whenever we shot at speed boats we would yell on bull horns " Give us your bananas, moms hungry"
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 5:37pm »
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It's interesting.  My hubby and I were just talking last night about the "media", and how they put their own spin on everything that is aired.  If you watch the three major networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, and even CNN, you get pretty much the same spin.  So we started channel surfing to the BBC, FOX news, even Al Jazerra (sp?), and it's amazing what is shown there.  Lots of stuff that is not shown on our networks.  
 
So, whether good reporting or bad, at least if I flip from one to the other, maybe I'm actually getting more of the full/real story.
 
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 6:31pm »
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In Vietnam we had Hanoi Hannah to cheer us up. She even knew the names of soldiers and the units they were with and would mention them.  
We always listened to her broadcast because she played better rock ‘n roll than the American Armed Forces Radio disc jockeys.
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Once again, patriotism is a refuge for scoundrels.  There is somewhat of a difference between WWII and the occupation of Iraq: Japan attacked us, but Iraq did not. In WWII, the country was united against Japan and willing to fight with 100%, but in the case of Iraq, the Army General that asked for more boots on the ground to secure the country was fired.  
 
And the President IS lying to you - just today, Novak revealed that Karl Rove confirmed the identity of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent, which he then leaked, damaging national security in the process.  Bush said he would fire anyone involved in the leak, then he said that the matter was under investigation, then he said nothing - protecting the leaker and lying to the public.  
 
It's not Hirohito - its Nixon all over again ...  develop an enemies list and smear or destroy those on it. This is the same old tactic of question their patriotism, question their sanity used against Daniel Ellsberg after he leaked the Pentagon Papers.  And since you are such a history buff, Jonny, you know that the Pentagon Papers were a study conducted on behalf of the US government, which clearly showed that we WERE being lied to, and we WERE NOT winning the war, in spite of dropping more explosives on Vietnam than was dropped by all sides in WWII.  
 
Six to 14 years ago, conservatives belittled the idea of using our military for peacekeeping. Rush Limbaugh repeatedly pointed out that they were not trained for peacekeeping but to "kill people and break things"   Then all of the sudden, they switched to the position that peacekeeping and pizza delivery is a good thing, and that we don't even need adequate force levels to do it. Meanwhile, Iraq spirals deeper into civil war.    
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you damn patriotic scoundrels, you you she be ashamed of yourselves.
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Pizza delivery?
Keep your ass in Floida.
nuff said
 
edit to add: I do know how to spell, but I didn't!
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:10pm, maffumatt wrote:

you damn patriotic scoundrels, you you she be ashamed of yourselves.

 
Agreed.  I think.  It wasn't quite a coherent sentence, but I am guessing what you meant.  
 
When Mark Twain coined the phrase that "patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels" he didn't mean that all patriotism was a bad thing. Merely that scalawags hide behind the flag and use it to manipulate people.  Same with religion - televangelism a the refuge of con-men whose idea of salvation is taking your money, while other churches have made themselves a refuge for pedophiles.  Love of God and Love of Country are transcendent emotions.  They can be good. And when irrational, bad.
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:16pm, PL259 wrote:
Floida.

 
LMMFAO!!!! Grin
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You forgot about Senator Graham and Senator Kyl's blatant lies and placement of a ficticious dialogue into the congressional transcript.
 
Tokyo Graham and Tokyo Kyl, as you call them, added a debate that never happened into the congressional records to make it look like it was discussed, when in reality it was just more lies and deceit.
 
Yes, things are added to the record at a later date on a regular basis, but they arent lies, completely made up and they are ALWAYS noted that it was added at a later date.  Senators are not allowed to secretly add lies into the congressional record strictly for the purpose of trying to sway the Sureme Court.  
 
Tokyo Lindsay Graham......that's got a nice ring to it.
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:19pm, floridian wrote:

 
Agreed.  I think.  It wasn't quite a coherent sentence, but I am guessing what you meant.  

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Iraq is just a start, wait till we bomb the "F" out of Syria and Iran. Hell, it took only one Battleship to flatten Berut after they bombed that Marine barracks.  
We'll have KFC's in Tehran in 10 years or we'll have alot of glass. Then we can get those island monkeys in Indonesia and bitch slap those guys into democracy.  
Face it, those snake charmers and camel jockies want to harm us for how we live. I say bring it on, maybe in 5 years I can get my beluga straight from the source in the caspian.
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:16pm, PL259 wrote:
Pizza delivery?
Keep your ass in Floida.
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edit to add: I do know how to spell, but I didn't!

 
Pizza delivery?  Yes, that is how the conservatives described our mililtary peacekeeping missions in the former Yugoslavia and Haiti, and peacekeeping in general - they were very clear that we had a military to defeat other militaries, not to occupy territories and police their populations.  But then a Republican was elected to the White House, and the thing they used to be against they are now for.  Today it's "Hooray for using the U.S. Military as a peacekeeping force!!"  
 
You got a problem with that?  Take it up with Rush and his buddies.  They are the ones that flip-flopped on this issue. They invented the 'pizza-delivery' description.  Although the civil war has gotten so intense that delivering pizzas, or painting schools, or handing out teddy bears to little children is no longer possible in Iraq.
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And when Castro dies....wow wee. We can send the Coast Guard to invade that country. I hear there's great diving there, thats reason enough to send some peace keepers there. Of course, after we bomb those commies. We still hate commies don't we?
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Hey Matt,
 
Wind them and let them go >>>>Weeeeeeee
 
LMMFAO  laugh
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You know what,
Lets just let the world do what they want. Lets get rid of the Army,Navy,Air Force,Marines then we can all have bunny farms and and live in peace with god and baby jesus.
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The President of the USA said he doesnt know where Bin Laden is, and quite frankly doesnt spend much time on him.  
Of course, this was after he said he wouldnt rest for a minute until we got him dead or alive.
 
Tokyo Bush
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If President Clinton would have took him when Sudan offered we wouldn't be looking for him.
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:46pm, JeffB wrote:
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Lets just let the world do what they want. Lets get rid of the Army,Navy,Air Force,Marines then we can all have bunny farms and and live in peace with god and baby jesus.

 
But are the bunny farms for meat?  Or just for cuddles??  
 
Seriously,  the American public supported the invasion of Afghanistan. The Taliban government was in league with Al Qaeda, and wouldn't surrender them to the U.S.  That is a good reason for invading them.  It isn't about either being an extreme pacifist or supporting every fucked up war that the politicians give you.  
 
The British government, our closest ally, even they acknowledged that Bush was a liar for the war. They said Bush wanted to take a U.S. military plane, disguise it in UN colors, and send it in low.  Then when it would have been shot down by Saddam, we would have a reason to invade!!  Where is your pride?  Would you be insulted if you found that Bush wanted to dress our troops up as little old ladies and send them into Iraq, and then use their arrest as justification for war?  
 
And what about the Powell Doctrine?  That was supposed to prevent another Vietnam.  Only the politicians decided we don't need to use overwhelming force, and we don't need clear objectives and an exit strategy.  
 
Punks like Jonny scream and moan when the big ditch goes $9 billion over budget and one person gets killed.  Nine billion dollars in CASH sent to Iraq is unnacounted for and thousands are dead and maimed.  And the total cost there is going to be a bit more.  
 
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on Jul 12th, 2006, 7:58pm, floridian wrote:
Punks like Jonny

 
Ahhhhh, now you have lowered yourself to name calling, Flo?
 
Thats not like you, is it?
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