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Your opinion on the media.......
« on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:09am » |
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What do yous think about the media describing how Mr Tucker from Madras, Oregon was killed? Do you think it is appropriate or needed for the media to say how the person was tortured, which limbs were cut off and how long he may have been tortured for?
Of course the family has the right to know, and the military should tell them if they want to know....in private.
I do not think that it is necessary for broadcasters and print media to explain the torture to the general public. I think it is disrespectful to the family and to people like me that would prefer not to know the details.
What do yous think?
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:43am » |
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I agree. Killed in action would cover it for me.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 8:39am » |
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The media's goal is to sell papers or secure viewers.
Raise hell with them about gory details and they will tell you those were their most popular articles of the day.
Who's fault is it?
Quality has nothing to do with it, it's a business.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 10:53am » |
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The media is so left wing it is despicable, they are not and have never been neutral and are running there own agenda. They feel we should get out of the war and think by parading the gore in front of us and dishonoring our solders and there families it will make us want to get out of the war. We all know war is hell and that people die and none of us want that but some times it is the right thing to do. Now you can give me a load of crap about my view and that is your right but one thing we can all agree on is that we do not like to see or hear about our solders being killed and hope they all will be home soon, and families should be left alone to grieve there loss and not have it on the front page of the newspaper or on the 6:00 news.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:29am » |
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on Jun 28th, 2006, 8:39am, karma wrote:The media's goal is to sell papers or secure viewers.
Raise hell with them about gory details and they will tell you those were their most popular articles of the day.
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Exactly, they tell you what you want to hear so you will watch their commercials or buy their print.
What drives me crazy is when they decide what the news is and THEN go and find some slim, anecdotal evidence to support it.
If you want quality, you have to leave mainstream media behind.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:32am » |
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on Jun 28th, 2006, 10:53am, Mattrf wrote:The media is so left wing it is despicable, they are not and have never been neutral and are running there own agenda. They feel we should get out of the war and think by parading the gore in front of us and dishonoring our solders and there families it will make us want to get out of the war. We all know war is hell and that people die and none of us want that but some times it is the right thing to do. Now you can give me a load of crap about my view and that is your right but one thing we can all agree on is that we do not like to see or hear about our solders being killed and hope they all will be home soon, and families should be left alone to grieve there loss and not have it on the front page of the newspaper or on the 6:00 news.
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The news is nolonger what happend. It is now what they want to happen. They believe If you state it often enough - some how it becomes fact.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:48am » |
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And god forbid that they actually report something good that happened!
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:49am » |
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The "print" media has been in trouble for the past seven years. Nobody is purchasing Newspapers, and the circulation figures are getting worse on a daily basis...I should know as I work for the biggest in New York. The dominant radio shows are conservative.....The dominant perspective in the print media is just the opposite. I believe in Freedom of Speech, but when the printed tabloids start revealing what our military is planning , or where the NYC police believe a terrorist will hit next, do they ever think that the terrorist can't read ?! As far as giving detailed information about an American who was tortured, it can only be a ploy to sell Newspapers.......Approximately 10 years ago the State Comptroller of Pennsylvania called a press conference. It seems that he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. The Television media was there. During the press conference the Comptroller appeared very nervous and was sweating profusely. When it became apparent that the news conference was ending....he reached into a large manilla envelope, pulled out a gun and shot himself in the head. The news programs throughout the night ran the piece right up to his putting the gun to his head...then the scene froze. All except in Philadelphia where the news ran the entire ending. Then they went along with what everyone else did freezing the scene before the actual shooting....Because they showed it once several people saw the whole gruesome thing............A very disturbing ( but factual) thing is that the television station in Philadelphia received over 100,000 phone calls with 92% asking to be shown the whole suicide !
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:52am » |
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:02pm » |
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dog Forbid the media print anything good that is happening in the war. There is a lot of good things happening.
But if it makes GW look good we can't print/or show it. Hell I am not his biggest fan myself, but come on!
It has gotten to the point I do not Watch news at all.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:16pm » |
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I agree with Gena and think that that his approval ratting would be a bit higher if the media would report the good and the bad, I mean come on, sure his approval is at an all time low, when all anyone has to go on is the negative press he gets and the media wont report anything good about the guy. Hell they could make mother Teresa look bad if they wanted.
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:57pm » |
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I have no problem with them reporting those facts. I think we need to hear and read about everything that happens there. If we choose to ignore whats gruesome or horrific we will certainly lose sight of the our soldiers mission...good or bad. And I think we should watch those planes hit there targets in NY,DC, every day and listen to the voices of those minutes from death to remind us of what the world is like now. Nows not the time to cover our ears and eyes, we need to stay fired up and show the world just how much resolve we Americans have. Just my opinion.
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It goes to show what our enemy is really like. I am actualy surprised they did tell it how it is. No human rights group or anyone els will complain his treatment.
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 28th, 2006, 2:36pm » |
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2 trains of thought here.......
If we are aware......if we NEVER foget these despicable acts, there is a chance we can be sure they never occur again........
that said............oh, Brian! I saw the news report, I heard the words! Imagine being an old friend, a family member or.well, anyone who might have known you.....and elearning these facts!
I agree, the family has a right to know..the country has a right to an overview, but DON"T humanize the person.don't allow thes horrendous visual images be the last the yknow of their friend/relative!
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on Jun 28th, 2006, 10:53am, Mattrf wrote:The media is so left wing it is despicable, they are not and have never been neutral and are running there own agenda. They feel we should get out of the war and think by parading the gore in front of us and dishonoring our solders and there families it will make us want to get out of the war. We all know war is hell and that people die and none of us want that but some times it is the right thing to do. Now you can give me a load of crap about my view and that is your right but one thing we can all agree on is that we do not like to see or hear about our solders being killed and hope they all will be home soon, and families should be left alone to grieve there loss and not have it on the front page of the newspaper or on the 6:00 news.
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Matt, I would only disagree with one thing:
"they are not and have never been neutral"
I think that perhaps at one time they were neutral, but it was way before any of us roamed the earth.
Then they evolved into jackals.
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If we made are own news we would have to do something that would get us thrown in jail in order for it to make the news or the paper, I for one would rather stay out of jail, but that’s just me. 
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The thread should be focusing more on the point at hand of our servicemen and women. We have prisoners of war at GB. They get fed, they have shelter, they get to pray to thier God, the have clean facility's, we protect them from harms way.
They in turn break every rule in the book that the Geneva Convention has applied for everybody's well being, and in turn some US soldiers are prosecuted for simple injustices.
Doesn't seem right, but thats just me, I'm not trying to make this thread a dog fight either, its just thought typed on a screen.
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on Jun 28th, 2006, 11:29am, john_d wrote:
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I get most of my news from the internet where I can check more than one source to get the real story...
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For some reason, the media would like us all to because self-loathing Americans, and relive the glory days of the Vietnam era.
I think America is great and would be much better if we could get rid of the self-serving politicians and media.
I also don't see any Glory in Vietnam - we pulled out of Vietnam and treated our own solders like shit when they came home. Where is the glory in that!!!
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I like long dark wang, I like to blow senators in the EIB network bathrooms....
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Gotta feel sorry for the guy on this one ... my doc has given me samples of biaxin. It's a prescription antibiotic which did not have my name on them. Did that make me a criminal? Guess I'll go donate to the ACLU to help defend Rush - again!
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on Jun 28th, 2006, 10:32pm, floridian wrote:
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I remember a while back reading about a TV station in Britain (I believe) that sponsored a show called, "The good news." or something like that, that focused on good news stories only. It only lasted a month or two due to poor ratings. So I guess we are the enemy. They (the media) air what sells.
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