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Could be worst, right?
« on: Jun 5th, 2006, 3:25am »
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 Roll Eyes Hey Family, Cool
      I know that life could get a lot uglier than it is right now, I mean, clusters are bad and dealing with them day after day gets old, fast!   But after 36 years I know I will cope with this just like yesterday and yesterdays of days gone forever.
  I just am having a problem shaking the depression from all the other stuff life has thrown at me,  been coping with this too for almost 2 years, just today, and yesterday and maybe tomorrow, seem like I just cant take much more.
   I just have to look at the people that had their whole world slide off the face of the earth in Indonesia to realize it could be worse.
   Maybe I just need to open my eye's wider? Maybe not shut them at all?  Have to change my thoughts soon or I'm setting myself up for a fall!  
    No need to respond. I just needed to vent. and I'm still standing tall.    Pappy Embarassed
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 5:41am »
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Sorry to hear you are down Pappy.  Try to think positive and off all the things in life that have gone right.  Depression is the Beasts best friend.  Don't let him in when he comes a knockin.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 6:10am »
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Hey Sail. Keep your head high. Everybody has their own set of problems. I realized many years ago that it is how you deal with them. Always be upbeat and be calm . In December I got so pissed-off that I was staying in the house constantly from the fear of getting an attack while out, that I just said f**k it and started to move around all over the place. Within two weeks my cycle started to wane. For 30 years I dealt with each cycle by becoming an introvert. This past cycle I made an appointment with a neurologist and he made me feel great. Would you believe it took me 30 years ?!!?Sometimes I amaze myself how stupid I can be. Life is for the living-----so get busy living.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 6:33am »
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sorry it's going so rough Pappy, hang in there and try to think of the blessings you have. Depression is an awful thing to fight I'm in that fight too. So I try to count my blessings everyday.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 8:39am »
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Depression sucks especially when you have to fight it AND the beast.  Yesterday was awful tough for me too (depression) and my HAs have been mostly shadows recently.
 
However, don't let it beat you down.  Better days are coming, most likely sooner than later!
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 9:04am »
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on Jun 5th, 2006, 3:25am, sailpappy wrote:
I just have to look at the people that had their whole world slide off the face of the earth in Indonesia to realize it could be worse.

A lot worse. You could be one of those people AND have cluster headaches.
 
on Jun 5th, 2006, 3:25am, sailpappy wrote:
Maybe I just need to open my eye's wider? Maybe not shut them at all?  

Visit the oncology unit down at your local Children's Hospital. That'll open your eyes! But, you may not see to well through the tears, the willingness to fight back of those kids.
 
I’m a few years older than you, Pappy. My last real cluster, and the worst one ever, was about a month before the very first OUCH Convention. Maybe I’ve out-grown my clusters. Maybe meeting a bunch of Cluster Ladies and Gentlemen killed the beast. Hell, I don’t know. Maybe you should go to Milwaukee next month and give it a try.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 9:43am »
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on Jun 5th, 2006, 3:25am, sailpappy wrote:
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        Maybe I just need to open my eye's wider? Maybe not shut them at all?  Have to change my thoughts soon or I'm setting myself up for a fall!  
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Hey Pappy,
 
Sorry to hear you're feelin' down on things.
 
I've watched this with myself and recently with my mother. CNN can be poisonous. The local news, toxic! Time to pull out a list and write down 3 things to do today that get you out of the house and away from the news of the world. Particularly those parts that you can do nothing about. I've developed a routine that I have to do when I find the "gray morning" floating in. This time of year it includes a "no TV" regime (for a few days), getting outside where people walk their dogs, taking in a farmer's market. Nothing better than connecting with REAL people and having your spirit connect to things other than the woes of the world.
 
Shake it up a little.
 
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("Gray Morning" was reference to the old James Taylor song that I found many years ago describes depression so well)
 
 
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 10:07am »
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Hey Pappy, I'm so sorry that you're going through a really rough time.  Unfortunately all of us have been where you're at.  We all make it.  And you will too!  Let me know if you need anything.
 
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Hi Pappy,
 
Last night I fended off a 6 hour panic attack.  I almost got to the point I wanted to be taken to the hospital, but luckily the Xanax I had kicked in, and I was able to get some sleep.  I still feel on edge today, but I know that with sleep and not taking on more than I can handle will help get me back to normal.
 
Depression is the root of so many fucked up problems.  But it is a part of humanity's life.  You may think some have never had that problem, or they always seem to be "normal", but trust me, either they hide it well or their time will come.  And as for natural disasters, well... it's an unfortunately inevitability in this world of ours.  But I've had to force myself to NOT feel all of the pain and suffering of others in order for myself not to be committed.  
 
I've said this to a few people before, and that is I wish I was just shallow sometimes.  Not in the mean way, but in the oblivious way, know what I mean?  
 
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p.s. DO stay away from reading or watching the news for awhile.  I'd say for at least a week, and see how much better you feel after that. Wink
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 12:05pm »
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Hey Pappy,
I know you said there was no need to reply...can't even believe you think that would happen here Shocked
Having survived many depression eras, I have the following list of absolutely idiotic things that people have said to me...well intended people who hadn't been depressed (yet).  I pull the list out when I start feeling bad-it reminds me that people care and that they can be very funny without realizing it. My unspoken reponses are in parentheses.
 
1.  I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. (okay)
2.  If you look happy you will feel happy-so smile. (STFU)
3.  Take a bubble bath. (I have a small child who cannot resist knocking on the bathroom door-an invitation to irritation)
4.  Walk your dog. (I don't have a dog)
5.  Take a walk. (Take a hike)
6.  Think happy thoughts. (Oy vey)
7.  Eat chocolate (yeah, adds being overweight to the mess)
8.  I was depressed once and things were so bad that I just wanted to scream and cry all at the same time and no one cared enough to listen to me and oh my god I know how you feel ( that will be $55 for the therapy session.)
9.  Maybe you should fast. (whatever)
10.  Maybe you just need to get away from it all (can't-every where I go, there I am and my stupid headaches are with me)
11.  Think happy thoughts (I'm going to my happy place now, a warm sunny beach with the waves rolling in...)
12.  This too shall pass. (how eloquent-STFU)
Pappy, I ain't a gonna say no more.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 12:12pm »
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Life sux, startin' to not like it at all, myself.
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 12:21pm »
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Being depressed really sucks, I have been down the dark road far to many times now.
The one thing that always makes me feel better is the smile on my little girls face, she is seven now and that unconditional love and uncontrollable happiness is infectious and even if it is temporary it helps me feel better.
Pappy if you have grandkids that are young maybe you need to schedule a little time with them, I find it to be the best therapy, they remind me of what is important in life and also what is good.  
P.S. if you have more then one I would just take one more then that and it may have the opposite affect.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 12:50pm »
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I find that a few hours visitin' my kids clears up my depression quite nicely.  Then I go home.  Praise the gods for beer.
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 12:57pm »
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Hope this brought a smile to your face Pappy. Smiley
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Roll Eyes Well Now---2 of my Grandkids live with me and Terri and have for 9 years, really missing the baby in Florida and his Mom. Going there in 5 more days!
 Been finding the bright side by comparisson to others troubles for 35 years with the clusters.
 Thanks for all the suggestions, but this depression is way diferent than the Clusterheadache blues, I know we all have a tough row to hoe sometimes.
  I just hit bedrock thats all!    John
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Hang on there Pappy, we are here for you, anytime of anyday. hug
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 2:56pm »
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Well I hope you feel better soon John, just try to think about the trip and how nice it will be to see them in five days.
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 5th, 2006, 11:25pm »
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  Pappy, You hang in there Bro! I know right where your at cuz I'm there myself. My docs won't even consider the chemo right now because they are worried that it might make me more depressed and take me over the edge. We are working on dealing with the clusters and the LOW LOW self esteem issues that I am going thru.
 
  You are a survivor in every sense of the word. I can be reached ..........well you already have my e-mail. Check your pm's for my phone, and don't hesitate to use it. You and I are still going to manage a meet soon. Give my love to the beautiful family and try to focus on them. They would NOT be better off without you!
 
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 6th, 2006, 2:15am »
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You're gonna be okay Pappy because you know enough to come here and rant. Also, there's nothing wrong with some depression.....so long as you use it for good effect. Just don't make it the center of things.  
 
In a perverse way, I have a good deal. Lamictal, which I take for my seizures, is a pretty good anti-depressant. Of course my getting out of the house helps too, especially when I go to subway.
 
Hang on and keep ranting.
 
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It sounds stupid, but it's true... You don't get to pick your shit.  You get to deal with it, but you don't get to pick it.  I wouldn't want anybody else's shit.
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Having survived many depression eras, I have the following list of absolutely idiotic things that people have said to me...well intended people who hadn't been depressed (yet).  I pull the list out when I start feeling bad-it reminds me that people care and that they can be very funny without realizing it. My unspoken reponses are in parentheses.  
 
1.  I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. (okay)  
2.  If you look happy you will feel happy-so smile. (STFU)  
3.  Take a bubble bath. (I have a small child who cannot resist knocking on the bathroom door-an invitation to irritation)  
4.  Walk your dog. (I don't have a dog)  
5.  Take a walk. (Take a hike)  
6.  Think happy thoughts. (Oy vey)  
7.  Eat chocolate (yeah, adds being overweight to the mess)  
8.  I was depressed once and things were so bad that I just wanted to scream and cry all at the same time and no one cared enough to listen to me and oh my god I know how you feel ( that will be $55 for the therapy session.)  
9.  Maybe you should fast. (whatever)  
10.  Maybe you just need to get away from it all (can't-every where I go, there I am and my stupid headaches are with me)  
11.  Think happy thoughts (I'm going to my happy place now, a warm sunny beach with the waves rolling in...)  
12.  This too shall pass. (how eloquent-STFU)  
Pappy, I ain't a gonna say no more.  
PFDAN,  
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This(above)  is one of the funniest things I have read here.
 
John if these don't make you laugh then I am coming to where you live and make funny faces at you.    Wink
 
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I'm sorry to hear that you are having a rough time.  I'm sorry I don't have much to offer, but I do hope that you find peace soon.  
 
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John if these don't make you laugh then I am coming to where you live and make funny faces at you.    Wink
 
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Funny faces are a no brainer for you, Linda   Grin
 
 
 
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I think we can all apply # 11-Think happy thoughts.  My happy thoughts would be the idea that when someone tells me *that*, is those thoughts include my hands around their throat, so they can't make any more stupid comments.
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 Are you just trying to live up to your name by slammin me? Or is it jealousy because I'm still living on the left coast.  ?
 
  I'll even put a smiley face here like you did.  Grin
 
 
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