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« Reply #1 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 7:46am » |
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That is just sick and wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 7:47am » |
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I just had one of those "that's fucked up" moments.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 7:54am » |
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:13am » |
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The ACLU has proposed the same thing here in the US, it doesn't surprise me.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #6 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:16am » |
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You know what's so scary about this for me? Is that they can even talk about it out in the open.. that they not only believe they are right but that they have the right to demand the abuse of other's rights.. children and animals.. "people" (I know animals aren't people) who can't speak for themselves.
I'm sorry but if this is where "the right to free speech" is taking us then please take it away. 
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #7 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:46am » |
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You shouldn't be surprised ---we're talking about the " Netherlands."
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:47am » |
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:55am » |
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who funds the ACLU? How do they get their money?
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 8:58am » |
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mostly democrat contributers they are a liberal rights orginization.
Don't get me wrong, they have done alot of good for alot of people, its just some of their ideas of what the NORM should be is skewed.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 9:05am » |
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You just know this sicko has participated in sex with kids and animals. JMHO but he should be put to death. I am not kidding. Someone needs to draw the line on these sickos. They have given up their rights as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #13 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 9:52am » |
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As the mother of a 12 year old daughter, I am sick and sad....what is this world coming to...LeLimey..I'm taking my daughter and getting off w/you okay????
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 10:10am » |
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 10:31am » |
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The ACLU is a group of lawyers that are committed to making sure that the government doesn't abuse it's power and take away our Constitutional rights. They often take up "unpopular" causes, like local governments attempts at preventing Nazi parades. It's not about whether someone is a Nazi, or a pedophile... it's about their constituional rights to free speech, peaceful assembly, etc. They did not defend those pedophile murderers...they defended NAMBLA's right to exist. And yes, it is anti- Christian in the sense that the constitution requires a "seperation" of church and state.
Special place in hell? Puh-leez.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #16 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 10:49am » |
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on Jun 1st, 2006, 10:31am, nani wrote:| the constitution requires a "seperation" of church and state. |
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Show me where.
The special place in hell remark was mostly for the pedophiles.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #17 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 11:55am » |
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Thanks for explaining about the ACLU Nani.
My personal opinion is that free speech is all very well but my rights stop when they start impinging on someone elses. And promoting sex with kids or animals is certainly impinging on THEIR rights.
In general most people can see what is right and wrong, most people will make their own minds up about nazi rallies as an example etc but there are sections of society that must be protected by the rest of us. Vulnerable and unformed sections of society who should not be taken advantage of and THAT is what I see this pervert promoting.
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 12:00pm » |
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Yeah, and since the ACLU said that people accused of terrorism should have a fair trial, they obviously are all a bunch of Al Qeada fans who are promoting terrorism and the gruesome dismemberment of innocent civilians.
My life would be so much simpler if I adopted a black-and-white, comic book view of the world.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #19 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 12:48pm » |
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Life may not be black and white, but there is such a thing as Truth. The US was founded on premises of individual freedom and responsibility. I served in the USAF for 16 years to defend those rights, People have given their lives that we can have the freedom to worship, assemble, speak, and disagree with one another. Still, right and wrong are not relative terms. If there was no real moral standard that the vast majority of folks believe in, no matter what they call it, then it would be perfectly all right to do anything we want to do. Including having sex with small children and animals. But there is an innate moral sense of right and wrong, and my friends, these folks are just WRONG.
My freedom to swing my arms around ends at your nose, and their freedom to swing their dicks around ends at my children.
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 12:54pm » |
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Yikes! They ought to call themselves the darwin party 'cuz it'll exterminate itself.
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 12:55pm » |
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NAMBLA = North American Man Boy Love Association has a right to exist? Nani do YOU think such an association of pediphiles has a right to exist? Can you imagine what their conventions are like?
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on Jun 1st, 2006, 12:55pm, maffumatt wrote:NAMBLA = North American Man Boy Love Association has a right to exist? Nani do YOU think such an association of pediphiles has a right to exist? Can you imagine what their conventions are like?
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Does clusterbusters have a right to exist? If an individual in the busters breaks the law, then they are subject to arrest. But should it be a crime to talk about changing the law? Is thought-crime evidence of real crime? Shouldn't novelists who write about rape or incest or murder be arrested? Don't most kids who go on Columbine-like shooting sprees start off with hour after hour of violent video games?
Got to draw the line somewhere - it should be where a crime is committed, not where a crime is discussed, or where legal reform (however misguided) is advocated.
Can I imagine what their conventions are like? Yeah, the same 3 members and same 5 undercover officers, all repeating the same twisted bull-sht. Year after year.
I don't care for NAMBLA, the American Nazi Party, the KKK, and a large number of other small fringe groups. But I do believe in freedom of speech. Being a member of the KKK is morally reprehensible in my opinion. Lynching or harrassing a person is a crime. The purpose of government is not to enforce my moral sensibilities, it is to enforce the law.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #23 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 1:14pm » |
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You may not like it when the ACLU comes to the defense of people you find morally repulsive but one should never forget that there are those at work in the world that may find you and your behavior morally repulsive one day. Morals, blasphemous behavior, and crimes often reside on a sliding scale in our world.
The challenge in the widening gulf in our society is that saying that you believe in certain inalienable rights is almost like asking someone, "have you stopped beating your wife?" If you answer "yes" you admit to having been a wifebeater, if you answer "no" you're implying that you still beat your wife.
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Re: Stop the world, I want to get off..
« Reply #24 on: Jun 1st, 2006, 1:23pm » |
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Flo I can see your point. My problem with it lies quite simply in the fact of doing harm to others and to a group that has no voice unless we speak for them.
Clusterbusters can speak for themselves, authors should be articulate enough to argue the merits of their work.. little kids and animals CAN'T.
I do feel sometimes we come across issues where our own beliefs cause us to have to draw a line and stand on one side of it. This one is mine. I may not be able to stop the talking about it and I do take your comments on board, but I can make it into a debate and make DAMN sure my side of the argument gets across.
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