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The PLAN.....
« on: Apr 25th, 2006, 7:42am » |
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You gotta love Robin Williams......
Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin
Williams to come up with the perfect
plan. What we need now is for our
UN Ambassador to stand up and
repeat this message.
Robin Williams's plan...(Hard to
argue with this logic!)
"I see a lot of people yelling for peace,
but I have not heard of a plan for
peace. So, here's one plan.
1) "The US will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys;' we will never 'interfere' again.
2) "We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.
3) "All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days, the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.
4) "All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
5) "No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D, and it's back home, baby.
6) "The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy-wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy, but will require temporary drilling for oil in the Alaska wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while .
7) "Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
 "If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah, or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement, or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given
to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
9) "Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair-weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
10) "All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE."
"Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?"
"The Statue of Liberty is no longer
saying, 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat, and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' "
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Quote:What we need now is for our
UN Ambassador to stand up and
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What we need is for Robin Williams to BE the UN ambassador.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #3 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 11:34am » |
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Well, Nani -- it's still a good plan.... 
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Quote:| Well, Nani -- it's still a good plan.... |
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I think that was the point. Doesn't matter who came up with it.
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 7:42am, BarbaraD wrote:
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7) "Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
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That is good comedy, even if it isn't Robin Williams. We'll do that right after we tell the pharmaceutical companies that we won't pay more than 20 cents a tablet for their meds, right after we tell the doctors and insurance companies we will only pay $25 a month for health care, and right after we all tell our bosses we want a 100% raise or we will all quit and find better jobs.
You go first.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #6 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 6:51pm » |
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Did anyone but me (I was babysitting and didn't have much else to do) listen to King George's speech today about fuel? I swear if he says he feels my pain - I'll scream!!!! DId anyone know this high fuel is hard on the "working man and woman?" And we should quit depending on oil so much - duh!!!
I'm writing Congress my weekly letter and EXPLAINING it ONE MORE TIME just HOW things are down here in "NORMAL" people country. Those idiots in DC have really lost touch with reality totally..... Then I'll figure out how to work 39 cents into the budget to mail it.....
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Just heard a story about how when oil prices went up after Katrina, Bush made reassuring sounds about alternative fuels and an energy strategy, then prices went down and 'the plan' lost momentum. Now that prices are high again, he is saying exactly the same thing as he did before.
I could complain, but the thing about democracy is that the people usually get the government they deserve. Somebody voted to elect big oil, then voted to re-elect them again. Bush authorized the leaking of the name of an undercover CIA agent and blew the cover of the brass-plate firm that she worked for, but the Whitehouse still refuses to release a list of names of the energy company executives that were on the executive policy task force. (Enron's Ken Lay was probably one). Gotta admire a man who knows where his loyalty lies.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #8 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 7:20pm » |
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So what you're saying Flo, is that the minority that DIDN'T vote for big oil should also get the government the majority voted for ? Sheesh. No way out I can see.
I also did something I have never done before here. Made a political post. God help me while I pawn my rings to pay for gas to get to work. Not really, just plagerizing someone I saw on T.V. this morning.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #9 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 7:27pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 7:20pm, Linda_Howell wrote:
So what you're saying Flo, is that the minority that DIDN'T vote for big oil should also get the government the majority voted for ? Sheesh. No way out I can see.
I also did something I have never done before here. Made a political post. God help me while I pawn my rings to pay for gas to get to work. Not really, just plagerizing someone I saw on T.V. this morning.
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There was some guy who had been in the military who pawned some 100 year old watch - they showed that on a news program recently here.
Then tonight they were talking about driving slower and driving less. They also showed that our regional rail has gained so much more business since the price hikes...so maybe they're in on it, too!
My car has no gas in it whatsoever right now, but I'm working nights this week so I have to drive... maybe next week I can try taking the train again once I'm on day shift!
This is definitely a huge hit on those out there struggling to buy food, let alone fight higher gas prices! Sheeeeeeesh......
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #10 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 7:35pm » |
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The way I understand it (I could be wrong) is that we get 60% of our oil from over seas, they want $75 a barrel.
The other 40% comes from right here in this country. Exxon-mobile can get it out of the ground for $20 a barrel, but they still charge us the $75 a barrel.....whats wrong with this picture?
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #11 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 7:52pm » |
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I believe it's true that we get most of our oil from Canada.
I also have to believe that it benefits oil companies to keep us thinking otherwise.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #12 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 8:10pm » |
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Mobil, Exxon et al. are getting 400 mil. dollars retirements, while we get the shaft.
looking into bicycles, Linda
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #13 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 8:47pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 7:35pm, Jonny wrote:| Exxon-mobile can get it out of the ground for $20 a barrel, but they still charge us the $75 a barrel.....whats wrong with this picture? |
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Actually it gets worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/business/14oil.html?ex=1297573200& en=87dc413fa6add582&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Long story short: N.Y. Times Feb 14, 2006
WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 — The federal government is on the verge of one of the biggest giveaways of oil and gas in American history, worth an estimated $7 billion over five years.
Royalty-Free Oil and Gas New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.
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Industry lawyers contend they have a strong case, because Congress never mentioned price thresholds when it authorized royalty relief for all deepwater leases awarded from 1996 through 2000.
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If that view prevails, the government said it would lose a total of nearly $35 billion in royalties to taxpayers by 2011 — about the same amount that Mr. Bush is proposing to cut from Medicare, Medicaid and child support enforcement programs over the same period.
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Here it is again:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/29/business/29leases.html?ex=1301288400&a mp;en=6659f5b350527e93&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
G.A.O. Sees Loss in Oil Royalties of at Least $20 Billion
By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
Published: March 29, 2006
G.A.O. Draft Report
WASHINGTON, March 28 — Incentives for oil and gas companies that drill in the Gulf of Mexico will cost the federal government at least $20 billion over the next 25 years, according to the draft of a Congressional report obtained on Tuesday.
The new estimates, prepared by the Government Accountability Office, also warn that $80 billion in revenue could be lost over the same period if oil and gas companies won a new lawsuit that seeks a further reduction in their royalty payments.
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The Interior Department acknowledged last month that it would forgo about $7 billion in royalties over the next five years — even though it expected energy prices to remain near record highs.
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In what the G.A.O. said was a preliminary analysis, it estimated that the government would lose about $20 billion as a result of leases already signed.
But that loss would quadruple to $80 billion if the suit by energy companies succeeded. ...
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Regarding price of a barrel of oil, it's just based on supply and demand. If supply is low, prices go up.
If demand is high, prices go up. Right now, demand is high because China is burning it up building wal-mart products. But the kicker is that supply is also low because the fricken oil companies can control how much oil they choose to refine and thus the supply, it's a completely unregulated industry. Not bound to change with our government run by ex-oil execs.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #15 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 10:12pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 9:18pm, john_d wrote:
Regarding price of a barrel of oil, it's just based on supply and demand. If supply is low, prices go up.
If demand is high, prices go up. Right now, demand is high because China is burning it up building wal-mart products. But the kicker is that supply is also low because the fricken oil companies can control how much oil they choose to refine and thus the supply, it's a completely unregulated industry. Not bound to change with our government run by ex-oil execs. |
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Good points John, especially the words in bold.
Worldwide demand hasn't doubled in three years.
Since 2003, U.S. demand is up 4.3 %, however the price of gas has doubled (increased 100%). The U.S. consumes 45% of of the gas produced on Earth.
The price of Crude is up - as high as $70 per barrel.
This is because worldwide supply is tight and gasoline demand in the US is up despite high prices - 4.3% more than 2003. © 2006 Gibson Consulting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/washington/25cnd-bush.html?ex=13036176 00&en=9c86fa70be832f7b&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
Bush Moves to Ease Oil Prices
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Published: April 25, 2006
WASHINGTON, April 25 — President Bush today announced a series of short-term steps that he said might slightly ease energy prices, including a suspension of government purchases to refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and investigations into possible price gouging and price fixing. The moves reflect growing concern among Republicans that the price hikes would become another election-year liability for them.
In a speech this morning before the Renewable Fuels Association, Mr. Bush followed the path of Republican leaders who, in a reversal, have suddenly called for the Federal Trade Commission and the Justice Department to conduct investigations and to consider "windfall profits" taxes, which the party has usually rejected. ...
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Yep, the oil companies limit supply by refining less oil. Bastards.
Presenting...."the man"
he may have us all over a barrel so to speak but I take solice in the fact that he has a disproportionately fat neck and mangled tooth, petty comfort I know.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #17 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 10:27pm » |
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 7:35pm, Jonny wrote:The way I understand it (I could be wrong) is that we get 60% of our oil from over seas, they want $75 a barrel.
The other 40% comes from right here in this country. Exxon-mobile can get it out of the ground for $20 a barrel, but they still charge us the $75 a barrel.....whats wrong with this picture? |
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It is called a global market with marginal pricing. Doesn't much matter what it costs to produce the stuff or where. The price that the last consumer pays to get their fill determines the market price for everyone. If there is a shortage, prices skyrocket. Add to the mix a situation where a few companies control the import and refining, and there are more bottlenecks to choke supply in the US, more opportunities to engage in price-fixing.
To put it in familiar terms, if you were a metal widget maker, and making a widget cost you $20 (for all materials, labor, overhead and shipping), would you sell the widgets for $20, or for what the market price was? As long as people 'needed' or wanted those widgets and were willing to pay $50, $75, or $100, I'm guessing you would sell to them at the higher prices and make a profit. Nothing illegal or immoral about that.
On the other hand, if there were only a handful of people that could produce these widgets, and they got together for cocktail parties on the isle of St. Barts, and discussed how they could manipulate the market to drive up prices, that would illegal.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #19 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 10:41pm » |
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I believe it's true that we get most of our oil from Canada.
I.....we have a few friends there.
wonder if that counts?
I thought not. 
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #20 on: Apr 25th, 2006, 11:23pm » |
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Here's the real point
Last year, oil companies made, IN PROFIT 138 BILLION DOLLARS,
and if that isn't obscene enough, they are expected to have profits THIS QUARTER of
Don't tell me that the oil companies are not gouging us!!
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #21 on: Apr 26th, 2006, 3:31am » |
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You'd think that with the profits ExxonMobile is making they could afford to be a little more respectful of their largest customer, the USA.
ExxonMobil station in Newington festooned with tattered U.S. flags.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #22 on: Apr 26th, 2006, 9:01am » |
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This morning I paid $40 to fill my car, and I don't even have an SUV - so I feel for people who do!! Like my parents... But, on the other hand, my car guzzles gas like nothing I have ever seen. I can only get back and forth to work 3 or 4 times before filling up again. It is one very pricey exchange these days!! I coulda bought a week's worth of groceries for myself (living alone) for that price!!
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #23 on: Apr 26th, 2006, 10:25am » |
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Flo,
Fixed the spelling for you. These widget guys usually fly through here on their Citations, Lears or 737's and either hop a ride on their Bell Rangers or 150 million dollar yachts to hang with the other widget guys.
Believe me they don't worry about the price of gas.
But I'll bet the little guy in front does.
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Re: The PLAN.....
« Reply #24 on: Apr 26th, 2006, 11:29am » |
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on Apr 25th, 2006, 10:33pm, floridian wrote:
As long as people 'needed' or wanted those widgets and were willing to pay $50, $75, or $100, I'm guessing you would sell to them at the higher prices and make a profit. Nothing illegal or immoral about that.
On the other hand, if there were only a handful of people that could produce these widgets, and they got together for cocktail parties on the isle of St. Barts, and discussed how they could manipulate the market to drive up prices, that would illegal.
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Investigations of price fixing and gouging will wrap up about October probably with no blame, and the price of oil will drop about 20 - 25 cents to us consumers just in time for voters to run to the polls in November and re-elect all the people who create this mess. Again though, all according to supply and demand. 
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