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you don't want to go to jail here!
« on: Mar 18th, 2006, 5:06pm » |
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TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the "tent city jail":
He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects.
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked! up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich' lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.
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With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.
Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 year. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates: "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!"
Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
Sheriff Joe was just reelected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona.
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Re: you don't want to go to jail here!
« Reply #1 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 5:53pm » |
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We even have TV programmes about Sheriff Arpaio here.. I wish they would appoint him governor of our prison system. That man is sheer genius 
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 6:24pm » |
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No he's not. He's a politician. He knows what people want. I'd give him more credibilty if he wasn't a headline monger.
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Re: you don't want to go to jail here!
« Reply #3 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 6:46pm » |
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Chewable you just contradicted yourself numpty!
You said "He is a politician" then you said "He gives the people what they want"
When has any flamin' politician done THAT?! 
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 6:51pm » |
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He can do it cause he has a captive audience (literally) to play with.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 6:59pm » |
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on Mar 18th, 2006, 6:51pm, chewy wrote:| He can do it cause he has a captive audience (literally) to play with. |
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Ah, and there you have it. They are so captivated by him that most of them make it a point not to end up back in his *jail*, now don't they? There ought to be more like him, people might actually think that prison/jail is *punishment* and not some place they want to revisit any time soon.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 7:03pm » |
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I'mnot against his policies. I just don't like him.
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 8:14pm » |
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on Mar 18th, 2006, 7:03pm, chewy wrote:| I'mnot against his policies. I just don't like him. |
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I agree.  He's a shameless self-promoter. I wouldn't be surprised to see that he has higher ambitions.
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Couldn't have said it better.
I saw on documentary awhile back that his recidivism rate is no better or worse than other countys of his size. So how well do his programs really work?
Damn right he has higher ambitions.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 18th, 2006, 9:54pm » |
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WOW,
I wish Joe was as tough as things like this make him out to be. Unfortunatly most of what was there was exagerated. Joe has done a lot to toughin up the system and make Jail a place that you dont want to go back to. Yes he loves the lime light and takes advantage of his position. However, because of how he approaches crime he keeps getting voted into office. I have voted for him myself.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 19th, 2006, 4:45am » |
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Federal law does not require that prisons have cable. In fact, the law Prohibits spending federal funds on cable, videocassettes, and other entertainment products in prisons.
http://tinyurl.com/o3s8p
The idea that our prisons should be without temperature controls (138 degrees F) is not tough, it is sadistic.
Meals that cost only 40 cents a day is not a brilliant idea, unless you think that prisoners should be malnourished as part of their incarceration.
Is your goal to beat the Turks and North Koreans and make 'American Prison' The international term for a place you don't want to be?. Frostbite and gangrene from unheated barracks and one bowl of cabbage soup a day may have been good enough for the Nazi prisons, but I'm not sure it meets the requirements of the US Constitution, which prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.
Here's news from Florida's get-tough program:
Quote:Martin Anderson, 14, died from a beating, not from Sickle Cell trait, is the opinion of Dr. Michael Baden, an ex-NYC coroner hired by the dead boy's family. His post-mortem disproved the boy died from a blood disorder. "I want justice. I want the guards and nurses to be arrested," said Anderson's mother.
A video tape showed seven instructors beating the boy to death with "hammer strikes" while a nurse stood by with her hands on her hips. He collapsed while running laps after having been beaten kneed and choked by the instructors. The camp is closing.
The boy was arrested for violating probation related to using his grandmother's car without permission with his cousins. The first autopsy was performed by a doctor who's reliability was questioned because in 2004 he incorrectly stated that a girl had a prostate gland and testicles. |
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on Mar 19th, 2006, 4:45am, floridian wrote:| Is your goal to beat the Turks and North Koreans and make 'American Prison' The international term for a place you don't want to be?. |
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And that question is directed at whom?
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on Mar 19th, 2006, 4:55am, Jonny wrote:
And that question is directed at whom?
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Anyone who thinks that Arpaio's plan is a good idea, and people that start threads by quoting lengthy emails designed to catapult the propaganda. 
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 19th, 2006, 10:25am » |
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Personally, I like his idea and think all prisons should be designed along this order. Prisons should be for PUNISHMENT not PAMPERING.... I think they should be self-supporting
If the guy wants to be governor - let him - I don't care what his politics is... I just like his style...
Of course, I'm for hanging at high noon on the public square.....
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on Mar 19th, 2006, 5:08am, floridian wrote:| Anyone who thinks that Arpaio's plan is a good idea, and people that start threads by quoting lengthy emails designed to catapult the propaganda. |
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Dont do the crime if you cant do the time. (Dont do it )
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 19th, 2006, 11:22am » |
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Well the prison system is nothing more than a country club any more. The inmates have better health care than you or I. They can continue their education and get a college degree at my expense. Along with three hots and a cot. A prison should be someplace you don't want to go. Not a country club.
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Really? Come on up to Mass and join the Walpole Country Club. Your perspective will change quick.
I understand Rahway has a good educational system. if you can stay alive long enough to get to class.
Country Clubs? Maybe the Federal system but not the state systems.
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 19th, 2006, 3:13pm » |
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Why shouldnt people in prison be miserable? They most likely did something to make someone else that way. There are places that are much harder on criminals than we are. I read that in Bulgaria and El Salvidor they will execute you for DUI. I wonder what their DUI rates are like?? Anway, I look past the fact that Joe basically gave the commisary and veding machines contract to his Brother and that he has rehired retired officers to civilian positons paying them HUGE amounts of money from the county while they are collecting thier county retirement. Why? Because I agree with his running of the jail. Now the Live cam from the womens facility was a mistake. You see it was found that the cam caught women inmates changing clothes. DUH! Oh well GO JOE!! KEEP IT UP!
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I'm wondering how many of you who think that prison, or jail, is such a wonderful place have ever lived, visited, or worked in one ?
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on Mar 19th, 2006, 3:21pm, chewy wrote:| I'm wondering how many of you who think that prison, or jail, is such a wonderful place have ever lived, visited, or worked in one ? |
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Well if picking up prisoners in an ambulance counts as working or taking prisoners to the brig while in the military counts then yes. Both federal and state and local...
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Sure it does. Those guys look fat, happy and content to you? Probably not. Think they would bolt out the back of your wagon if they could so as to not go back? Bet they would.
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on Mar 19th, 2006, 3:51pm, chewy wrote:
Sure it does. Those guys look fat, happy and content to you? Probably not. Think they would bolt out the back of your wagon if they could so as to not go back? Bet they would.
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They had to turn it off. Inmates filed a law suit. The presmis was to make so they could be witnessed in jail. Just not NAKED in Jail. hahahaha
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Although I didn't post it here,last year I was assaulted by a guy as I was getting into my car.I punched,screamed..and kicked him in the crotch..HARD..as he took off..I called the cops on my cell & told him which was he was going & what he was wearing..and how bad he was limping (snicker).
When they caught up to him & arrested him his only comment was "Cool..3 hots & a cot..I knew I could get back in"
WTF? Thats just plain wrong..and from a victims standpoint..I would love to have the incarceration program that Sheriff Joe has..maybe then that fool wouldn't have been in such a hurry to go back.
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Chewy, to answer your question above, yes I have had the dubious honor of visiting three state pens
First Statesville outside Chicago to protest in front of the prison board the fact that Richard Speck was being treated more like an employee then a stinking mass murderer. One of his 8 victims was a family friend, and if you remember the Footage uncovered by Bill Moyer you could see how "badly" he was treated. All the cocaine he wanted, conjugal visits in his room with his boy toys and even some new breasts!
Second Huntsville in Texas where my wife Linda's bad seed brother was serving time for armed robbery. Not a nice place but they did have most of the conveniences of home and a state of the art gym and of course free continuing education. He did 5 out of 15 yrs. on that one.
After getting out he parleyed all the great friendships he had made into a multi-million dollar drug smuggling ring. He was partying at a hotel in Ventura, CA. one night had a few too many bottles of Dom and when the bouncer (who happened to be an off duty county cop) escorted him outside and told him to sleep in his car until he was sober enough to leave he used his Camero to pin the officer up against another car breaking both legs. Of course it was an accident, Mikes foot slipped off the clutch (three times) crippeling the young cop for life.
Well for that one they sent him to San Quentin another not so pleasant place, but one in which he was allowed conjugal visits with his girlfriend, allowed to have sex in the visitors lounge so long as they were discreet about it, and had enough drugs that he would slip some to her to carry out of the prison!
He did 7 out of 35yrs. for that little prank and now lives in a million dollar compound outside phoenix and spends most of his time traveling to gambling centers (vegas) etc to launder the money that was never found or taken from him!
So, yes I have seen, and to Flo Ireally think we should be a little nicer to these poor guys don't you? 
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