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A very dangerous man!
« on: Mar 1st, 2006, 7:03am » |
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Classic Bush,
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The president has nothing to loose and has no problems with leaving a legacy of nepotism, corruption and mismanagement. I shudder to think how much more damage he can do in his last two years.
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Scary!!!
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I don't agree. I think he's doing the right thing generally.
The only thing that I don't like is his lack of involvement in the illegal immigration from Mexico.
The port thing disturbs me too. Although I never knew and I think most haven't either that many ports have been run by foreign countries. What disturbs me is the country that wants to take over the latest port.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #2 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:16am » |
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Consider this,
To many people around the world the U.S. President is the face of the American people.
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Education is in a shambles.
The country is at war with no good way out.
Adequate Health care is more unattainable for the middle to lower class than ever.
The buget defecit has reached previously unthinkable levels.
The V.P. is persuing his own agenda in granting military and civilian contracts.
His foreign policy has alienated virually all of Europe.
High Ranking Reps. are falling like flies
Incompetent appointee's are being praised instead of fired.
Need I go on?
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #3 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:32am » |
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Ok, this has been bugging me for quite a long time and I just have to ask...
Karma, your profile says you live in the Netherlands, yet you seem to act like you're either from the U.S. or are living here right now, yet you posted a pic of your house in Belize? Or some tropical place? Or was that someone else??
I am sooo confused!
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #4 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:33am » |
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but at least we'll save the institution of Marriage and move abortions out of healthcare!
so it's all worth it!
(that's sarcasm, in case you hadn't guessed it.)
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #5 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:11am » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:33am, vig wrote:but at least we'll save the institution of Marriage and move abortions out of healthcare!
so it's all worth it!
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Whew! For a minute there you had me about to throw a rock at you!
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #6 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:22am » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:33am, vig wrote:but at least we'll save the institution of Marriage and move abortions out of healthcare!
so it's all worth it!
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No worries there. I always get sarcasm. 
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #7 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:27am » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 10:33am, vig wrote:but at least we'll save the institution of Marriage and move abortions out of healthcare!
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You forgot the effective logic and amazing success with the War on Drugs. 
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 11:35am » |
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Karma, your profile says you live in the Netherlands, nope, buts thats only because their is no profile selection for ST. Maarten, yet you seem to act like you're either from the U.S., Sort of if you consider St. Thomas U.S.V.I. part of the U.S. or are living here right now,nope yet you posted a pic of your house in Belize?nope Or some tropical place? yup Or was that someone else?? nope
Sorry for the confusion.
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ok, phew! thank you for the explanations!!
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I wish the US voting population had the insight of the Netherlands.
Quote:nope, buts thats only because their is no profile selection for ST. Maarten,
Sort of if you consider St. Thomas U.S.V.I. part of the U.S.
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Well that certainly clears that up for me! LOL
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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No you don't it's basically a socialist state.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #12 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:06pm » |
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please! you have fallen victim to a media that wants to tout the "dangers" involved with EVERYTHING! Today is only slightly different than yesterday and tomorrow will likely only be slightly different than today. Change is not all that sudden, and one president's, or administration's, effect, in the big picture of things can not turn the world upside down. the whole chicken little thing gets really old after awhile.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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Budget deficit!
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #15 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:24pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:17pm, karma wrote:
you make my point - the country's been around for something 230 years. W's effect will not shake things so terminally that there needs to be such gloom and doom.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
« Reply #16 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:42pm » |
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Scott,
So I guess the smart thing to do is to accept incompetence at the highest levels of Government knowing that they can't screw things up so badly that it can't be fixed. 
History has a way of repeating itself repeating itself
These no longer exist
Roman empire, British empire, Russian empire, Chinese Dynsaties, Mayan and Aztec civilizations.
They didn't disappear all of a sudden either.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 1:42pm, karma wrote:Scott,
So I guess the smart thing to do is to accept incompetence at the highest levels of Government knowing that they can't screw things up so badly that it can't be fixed.
History has a way of repeating itself repeating itself
These no longer exist
Roman empire, British empire, Russian empire, Chinese Dynsaties, Mayan and Aztec civilizations.
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Exactly. And I'm sure there were plenty of Romans, Brits, and Russians, Mayans and Aztecs who wasted their lives bitching about what was going on. Look, empire is not a forever guarantee. Shit happens - you can't hang onto the past.
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Re: A very dangerous man!
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There is ONE thing that will not change....
Now that Bush's oil buddies are getting filthy rich raping America, We will NEVER see Gas prices below $2.00 a gallon again.
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 3rd, 2006, 2:25pm » |
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George Bush's presidency has not been so easy. Eight or so months in to office what may be considered the 2nd or 3rd worst thing happened in this country. We were attacked and thousands died at the World Trade Center. Other then the Civil War and Pearl Harbor the attack on our people on our shores was horrific. It seems to me that Bush has been blamed for just about everything and I don't think it's fair to do that. The media is biased and tried their best to get Kerry elected and were unsuccessful.
The budget deficit is musch do to the Iraq situation. As much as a lot of folks keep saying he lied about the weapons if he did then most all other countries did as well. Hussein was murderer and a butcher and something had to be done for these people.
There are so many things that I could say in defense of George Bush however there will always be peopole who agree and then also disagree. That is the beauty of this country that will never be taken away from us is that we can give our opinion without reprisal. They could not do that in Iraq.
Things can always be better but the oil notion is preposterous.
There is one defining thing I like about Bush. He sticks to his guns. We need a President that believes in what he or she is doing.
I think in the end we are on the right course of action minus the immigration issue.
Would love to hear pros and cons.
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on Mar 3rd, 2006, 2:25pm, cardogman wrote:George Bush's presidency has not been so easy.
awwwwwww
The bottom line is that HE picked the fight with Iraq based on bad information.
We were attacked and thousands died at the World Trade Center. Other then the Civil War and Pearl Harbor the attack on our people on our shores was horrific.
don't forget that it happened on HIS watch....
It seems to me that Bush has been blamed for just about everything and I don't think it's fair to do that.
yes, that blame should be shared widely...
by the Republican Party leadership (DeLay, CHeney, Rumsfeld, Libby NeySantorum, etc.) NOT Bush. (I think GWB is the dupe in here. I don't think he has the capacity to think this stuff up.)
The budget deficit is much due to the Iraq situation. (which he started) As much as a lot of folks keep saying he lied about the weapons if he did then most all other countries did as well. Hussein was murderer and a butcher and something had to be done for these people.
There are many other murder/butCHers out there that we will NOT touch. (Korea? Darfur, Sudan? ) and if that were our reason to go to Iraq, Congress and the people of the US would NOT have approved it. We were convinced by the Bush Administration that we were in impeding danger of a Weapons of Mass Destruction attack. NO other reason would have convinced us to go to war on a pre-emptive basis.
There are so many things that I could say in defense of George Bush however there will always be peopole who agree and then also disagree. That is the beauty of this country that will never be taken away from us is that we can give our opinion without reprisal. They could not do that in Iraq.
Here, Here!
Things can always be better but the oil notion is preposterous.
There is one defining thing I like about Bush. He sticks to his guns. We need a President that believes in what he or she is doing.
I too, admire someone who sticks to his guns through thick and thin, unless of course, they are wrong. At that time, I do allow room for an admission of a mistake. Plain, old, blind sticking with your way, is NOT an admirable quality.
I think in the end we are on the right course of action minus the immigration issue.
I haven't looked at this one
Would love to hear pros and cons.
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Hey Vig,
I don't disagree with most of what you say except for two things. There as many Democrats in office that give the republicans a run for their money when it comes to incompetence.
Also, remember that most of the Democrats voted to go in to Iraq based on the information given to Bush by his staff and many other countries. This cannot be argued with it's fact.
I think eventually there will be an exit strategy and I believe there shoud be.I think it will happn before he leaves office.
One other thing that I am upset about is the fact that he has done nothing about Tort Reform. He said he was and he used it as one of his platforms while campaigning. There are so many ridiculous Medical / Legal Lawsuits in this country it's helping bankrupt our Health care Delivery Systems and making Health Insurance to expensive and out of reach for people who need it which is all of us.
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Get your facts straight: Bush took the buget surplus that Clinton left him and put us into a deficit situation before Iraq; our budget deficit is the highest that it has ever been in history-even if you subtract the cost of Georgie's Iraqui adventure-and it is getting worse yet he intends to go ahead and cut taxes AGAIN for the rich and wants to make those tax cuts permanent. That was a nice analogy, Bush sticking to his guns-except that they are loaded with blanks (only Cheney is allowed to have live ammo in his guns). As for Iraq, we have really done a lot of good there, haven't we! It is now a safe place for the people who live there, the country's infrastructure has been replaced and upgraded, people can walk around the streets without fear of being arrested by Saddam's secret police and life has gotten so much better for the citizens-and continues to get even better-that it has been well worth the 2000+ American lives that it has cost so far, not to mention the (I'm guessing here) 60,000 Iraqui lives that have been lost since George, Sharp Shooter Dick and Rummy have been running things. Yup, Burt, life couldn't be better for them or for us. NOW, as you said, it is time to take care of the goddamn Mexicans coming across the border, snatching up those great lettuce picking and sweatshop jobs that Americans are clammoring to get-hell, $2 an hour is a lot of money and if it weren't for those Mexicans, REAL Americans would have those jobs and we would have NO unemployment and life would be great in the wonderful land of Oz.
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Hi Tom,
I don't agree with the Immigration thing. It's not just a matter of jobs that other people don't want it's a matter of not knowing who is coming across our borders ie: Ms 13 that gang and terrorists who are paying the mexicans to help let them in and people latching on to benefits that our own people can't get.
Regarding the Iraq thing you know it's gonna take a lot longer for a country that has been ravaged by a dicatator to land back on their feet.
BTW I agree with the Carbon Monoxide thing I just read your post on the other thread. You are right .. By the time Lizzie woke she wouldn't have. Probably a virus hopefully.
Burt
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