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Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« on: Feb 20th, 2006, 10:00am » |
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I think this story needs to be paid attention to...what do you think? Two of the 911 terrorists were from the United Arab Emirates.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1640128
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 10:13am » |
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There goes the neighbourhood!
Now you are more open and vulnerable to invasion, illegal aliens, smuggling and drug trafficking.
Who the hell came up with the idea to sell ports to a potential enemy? Do the US need the money is that why you are selling off your Ports?
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 10:15am » |
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LOL, I think the ports were owned/controlled by a British company which was recently bought by the Arab company.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 11:30am » |
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Since we've been bombarded with news/government reports highlighting the vulnerability of our ports and a short port workers strike nearly shut down the entire country because we are ridiculously overly dependent on imports, what the heck, why not.
Since we've been bombarded with news/govenrment reports highlighting the fact that we inspect less than 10% of the cargo arriving at our ports, what the heck, why not.
Since we've been bombarded with news/government reports highlighting the fact that we have no real allies in the Arab world run/inhabited by religious fanatics who consider us infidels that must be destroyed, what the heck, why not.
I believe I know the strategy.
Establish a policy of "free trade" regarding imports while ignoring restrictive trade on our exports, illegal dumping on our markets, currency manipulation, patent infringements and constant breaking of virtually every provision of our "free trade" agreements by (ahem) trading partners around the world.
Sell and outsource key economic and strategic assets of your country to wealthy enemies and potential enemies and let them control them. That way the'll have a stake and will be less likely to cause trouble.
Drive the U.S. economy down toward those of current third world countries. Depress the U.S. standard of living so that other nations are no longer envious and therefore less likely to cause trouble.
Concentrate the control/wealth of the world in the hands of privledged individuals fortunate enough to be the ruling class who will then be less likely to cause trouble.
Why focus and waste resources on National Security? Once we have "World Peace" engineereed by the "New World Order" no one will have anything to worry about ever again.
Truely brilliant.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 12:59pm » |
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NO!
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 2:55pm » |
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no and bush needs his ass spanked for allowing it, I am getting a little disapointed in the guy...............
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 3:29pm » |
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Ya know, when I seek advice on our country's security and well-being, I always feel better when Michael Chertoff says everything is hunky dory on Meet the Press. 
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 3:39pm » |
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Maybe we should go ahead and give the country away...Instead of doing it piece by piece...
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 6:17pm » |
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6 ports on the East coast to be affected....including Philadelphia.... 
NOT good.... I'm watching the stories on the Philadelphia local news right now - people are really quite incensed about this.
WHY would Bush do this? Is there a single person outside of the Bush administration who thinks this is a good idea?
*Edited to add: It is simply mind-boggling to me how Bush can justify the domestic spying on Americans as something in the interest of National Security and then allow this kind of transaction to take place. Chertoff is so certain there is no risk to national security. We couldn't even handle Katrina. I don't trust our government one bit to have things so in line that terrorism couldn't cut through ports owned by an Arab trading company.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 7:22pm » |
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Tom, Tom...Tom.
A brilliant piece of work....yes.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 7:55pm » |
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Should our ports be Arab-owned?
um, No!!!!!
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 7:09am » |
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Know what? I'm scared....
When we think something just can't happen, it does.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 8:35am » |
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ARE THEY NUTS?
This is absurd
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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Arab journalists Friday at the State Department, that it was "the considered opinion of the U.S. government that this can go forward." She pledged to work with Congress because "perhaps people will need better explanation and will need to understand some of the process that we have gone through."
DAMN RIGHT WE NEED A BETTER EXPLANATION. Like, just whose side are you on, anyway?
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 9:05am » |
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Most ports in USA are allready foreign owned and it will be difficult if not impossible to stop the saudis from purchasing the british company that allready owns the 8 ports in question.
Thank god for the mafia, organized crime and the unions for trying to keep them on the staight and narrow.
I would put more trust in them than our current government.
Further info to appear here soon. Of course that may be after the sale.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 9:47am » |
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It usually comes down to some sleazeballs getting very rich with this bunch.
No matter, it just looks so effen bad and pisses everybody off. Sending all our jobs to India is bad enough but this...... Duh. 
I vote for guys wearing sharkskin suits to guard my ports. 
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 10:13am » |
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No! I'm much happier having the neo-lib corrupt labor unions running them!
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 10:16am » |
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LMMFAO! On the money!
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 10:19am » |
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Quote:| The overseas British Empire — in the sense of British oceanic exploration and settlement outside of Europe and the British Isles — was rooted in the pioneering maritime policies of King Henry VII, who reigned 1485–1509. Building on commercial links in the wool trade promoted during the reign of his predecessor King Richard III, Henry established the modern English merchant marine system, which greatly expanded English shipbuilding and seafaring. The merchant marine also supplied the basis for the mercantile institutions that would play such a crucial role in later British imperial ventures, such as the Massachusetts Bay Company and the British East India Company. Henry also ordered construction of the first dry dock, at Portsmouth, and made improvements to England's small navy. |
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I can still understand how your ports became and still are owned by the British. After all, they colonized nearly all the countries at one stage in history.
Quote:| Its territories were scattered across every continent and ocean, and it was often accurately described as "the empire on which the sun never sets". |
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What I can't understand, is that You America, is the super power of the day, why don't your goverment, when the opportunity arise take back your own?
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #18 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 10:33am » |
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Osama and his family's ties within the Arab Emirates are extensive and well documented.
The fact that the U.S. inspects only 5% to 6% of the cargo arriving through it's ports is well documented and clearly a major flaw in current "Homeland Security" measures.
What backroom deals has this administration cooked with the Arab Emirates behind the scenes? I'm certain that the economic policies of the last several administrations are the root of the problem. Whatever they are it appears that the entire administration has come out in pre-coordinated total/united support. Only an idiot or someone with something else to gain puts the fox in charge of the hen house.
Osama will soon change his name to BenLaffin.
This is totally insane. The sell out of America by it's so-called leaders has gone too far.
But its nothing new - Our trade deficit is projected at $900 billion in 2006. This will result in the loss of additional U.S. jobs, higher National Debt, higher interest rates and nearly total U.S. dependence on foreign investment to subsidize our current $8,250,980,176,340 National debt (that currently grows by $2.21 billion per day).
Throughout the last few administrations, the policies of our so-called leaders and their corporate cronies rack up massive debt for average Americans to pay while stuffing their own pockets with cash.
Regardless of what some renowned economists insist - No modern Nation can sustain a viable economy when its "free trade" policies do nothing more than subsidize Corporate and Personal wealth with public debt. This country is headed for an economic disaster if the American people don't start fightning back.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #19 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 10:33am » |
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I can't even believe that it is possible, never mind happening. It boggles the mind.  What next? Outsourcing the Army? 
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
« Reply #20 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 12:17pm » |
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This whole scenario is being misunderstood.
The ports belong to the local government, if I'm not mistaken.
The port managment is contracted out to a management company, in this case a British company that is being bought out by a UAE company.The U.S. govt. must approve the sale or not. This decison will validate or invalidate the current contracts dpending on the decision.
The ports owners can eventually decide if they will honor the contracts or not.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 12:37pm » |
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Bill Clinton got us out of debt and gave Bush a cash surplus of several hundred billion dollars, which Georgie and friends quickly spent and got us into debt again. Now this business of letting an Arab country with a dubious record vis a vis terrorism run our greatest ports is either a continuation of the policies of Bush doing things to help his rich friends get richer or the act of a mentally ill man. Anyone remember the scene in "Catch 22" when Milo Minderbinder made a contract with the Nazis for us to bomb our own airfield? Truth is truely stranger than fiction (and I really am beginning to think that Bush is really a robot, or blow up rubber doll, controlled by "Shotgun" Cheney and friends). 
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on Feb 21st, 2006, 10:33am, imnotbub wrote:| I can't even believe that it is possible, never mind happening. It boggles the mind. What next? Outsourcing the Army? |
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Allready done.
Iraq is being fought and managed allmost totally by private military contractors. Bush Sr. sits on the board of carlysle companies wich runs one of the larger private armies / military contractors. Old soldiers dont die they make money.
Our troops are just there to be expendable.
CH Tom I'm with you, Clinton had the best run government in many years. So he had a thing for the ladies, me too.
Jasmyn- We cant take it back cause all our money is borrowed and our country is mortgaged to the hilt by other countries.
Like Tom says with $8 trillion plus owed to other corps and countries all they have to do is call in the debt and we are bankrupt as well as the entire world turns upside down cause we bankroll many others with borrowed money.. Its easier for our government to give them whatever they want. Since very little backbone seems to exist in the open here.
Now I am worried that I will be spied on because I said that.
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Re: Should our ports be Arab-owned?
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on Feb 21st, 2006, 1:09pm, MJ wrote:| Like Tom says with $8 trillion plus owed to other corps and countries all they have to do is call in the debt and we are bankrupt as well as the entire world turns upside down cause we bankroll many others with borrowed money.. |
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I don't know, what if when they call in there debt, we just say "Hey hey, fuckenay, you're not getting it anyway!"
What are they going to do, give a bad credit revue? (so what) Blow up a building? (been there, done that) Not sell us stuff? (oh my, we would have to make our own)
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 21st, 2006, 5:50pm » |
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Heard they outbid El Quiada by just a few thousand.
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