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We know here in Oklahoma clear up to Nebraska was once covered by an ocean. If that is true how could we be causing these minor rises in the ocean? We set at 625' above sea level. If all the land covered ice were to melt 700' thick, we would be high and dry by 425'. And where did that 425'+ of water go? We are having a record setting warm winter in the U.S.,Natural gas has gone from 15.00 to 7.50 per deco-therm, Russia is getting hammered with record setting cold. Global warming? It's a natural thing, we can't control mother nature.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 11:31am » |
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But isnt it fun trying or at least blaming someone for causing it? Got to admit its alot of fun listening to people fight about it. 
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 11:31am, Ghost wrote:| But isnt it fun trying or at least blaming someone for causing it? Got to admit its alot of fun listening to people fight about it. |
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No shit I just love to put freon in my old Honda $75.00 a can black market.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 11:42am » |
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The so called warming that is supposedly happening is nothing more than a natural cycle the earth has been going through for millions of years.
If you go back to the news stories of about 20 years ago it was all about the new ice age starting. But, it didn't happen and the so called weather experts ran out of scare stories to write about, so......
they came up with a new term, global warming. That gives them new crap to write about and get don't-have-to-pay'em-back grants from the taxpayers to "study" the earth's warming that will kill us all in just a few short centuries from now.........
unless the weather cools off, of course.
Quote:| We are having a record setting warm winter in the U.S.,Natural gas has gone from 15.00 to 7.50 per deco-therm, |
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Just heard on the news that because of the warm weather the price of gas is dropping and the gas companies need to raise the price just "because".
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 11:59am » |
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If you're interested in this subject and want a good read in novel form, read Michael Crichton's "State of Fear". It's really good, and has his scientific take on the whole fiasco.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 12:38pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 11:59am, pattik wrote:| If you're interested in this subject and want a good read in novel form, read Michael Crichton's "State of Fear". It's really good, and has his scientific take on the whole fiasco. |
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This is exactly what I was talking about. Find a topic that scares people, can't be proven one way of the other, makes great headlines, then write about it.
Follow the money!
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 12:50pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 12:38pm, BobG wrote:
You've got that right. Just to clarify...the book takes a look into how much money is envolved in this issue, especially on the environmentalists' side of things, and it really suggests how underhanded the environmental movement can get.
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 12:50pm, pattik wrote:
>> Follow the money.
You've got that right. Just to clarify...the book takes a look into how much money is envolved in this issue, especially on the environmentalists' side of things, and it really suggests how underhanded the environmental movement can get.
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What a load of crock! Follow the money and it will take you straight to Exxon, BP, and the other energy companies. The environmental movement's entire budget is chump change compared to the real money that the oil companies toss around. Think about it ... how much have you spent in the last month for gas, oil and electricity, and how much did you donate to an enviromental group? Multiply that by a few billion and you will get an idea of who is really renting Congress and massaging the media.
Speaking of Michael Crichton, didja hear the story about that Costa Rican island that is crawling with dinosaurs??
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 1:26pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 1:15pm, floridian wrote:
What a load of crock! Follow the money and it will take you straight to Exxon, BP, and the other energy companies. The environmental movement's entire budget is chump change compared to the real money that the oil companies toss around. Think about it ... how much have you spent in the last month for gas, oil and electricity, and how much did you donate to an enviromental group? Multiply that by a few billion and you will get an idea of who is really renting Congress and massaging the media.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 1:33pm » |
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Sorry slipped
Some one quick pass me some popcorn its a good show about to start!!!!
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #10 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 4:26pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 1:15pm, floridian wrote:
What a load of crock! Follow the money and it will take you straight to Exxon, BP, and the other energy companies.
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Yep. And it will also lead right to big headlines in the newspapers. Big headlines are ONLY to get someone to put down money to buy the paper. It has nothing to do with 'news'. Buy the paper that is full of advertisements and then go shopping. Spread the money around. It will also lead to TV news and documentries that tell you nothing but keep you in your chair during the commercials. College professors write about it so they can "be published" which leads to higher paychecks. Global warming is a gold mine.
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Good example..........make money selling a book about the money involved in a non-issue.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #11 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 4:47pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 11:28am, forgetfulnot wrote:| ...where did that 425'+ of water go? ...Lee |
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It is presently sitting on store shelves cleverly
disguised as plastic water bottles, soda cans, processed foods. Another place it can be found would be hanging around bath houses and toilets.
Glad I was here to help
PS - I have a wee bit in my bladder I'm about to dispense of in the aforementioned toilet.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #12 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 4:52pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 4:26pm, BobG wrote:
Good example..........make money selling a book about the money involved in a non-issue. |
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Bob, some of us actually read books from the library
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 4:26pm, BobG wrote:
College professors write about it so they can "be published" which leads to higher paychecks. Global warming is a gold mine.
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Bob - I'm guessing you've never been a professor, but have read something about it?
Some schools have a 'publish or perish' policy. But that typically applies to all faculty - not just climatologists. And nothing in the policy gives an incentive to publish on a given topic, from a particular perspective, or to come to a particular conclusion. To get an article past a peer review board, a person needs data, neeeds to analyze it, needs to justify their conclusions. If anything, that creates an incentive to write about something non-controversial, like the spatio-temporal characteristics of rainfall associated with hurricane Fred.
Most professors are not out to get rich, (and the majority of those who are are in the business school). Global warming isn't a gold-mine for academics; its a mine field.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #14 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 5:13pm » |
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No news is good news. Nothing but good news allowed unless they can sell drugs to cure it.
The environment makes the news only when someone forgets a payment or two. 
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 5:13pm, Charlie wrote:No news is good news. Nothing but good news allowed unless they can sell drugs to cure it.
The environment makes the news only when someone forgets a payment or two.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #16 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 7:36pm » |
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Lee...I'm glad that we, down here, don't have to worry about such things as rising sea levels. Ain't nothing to do about it anyway..really.
About the natural gas costs...don't worry, we'll just send it up until there ain't no more.
Sorry I seem so bitter...I just am.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #17 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 8:47pm » |
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With all the excitement about CO2 and how we are destroying ourselves, environmentalist forgot to look at other causes. Such as a undersea volcano is melting the Antarctica sea ice, and the fact that the Sun is getting hotter every year. Actually they never tell you that there is no proof that CO2 causes global warming.
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Re: Global warming?
« Reply #18 on: Jan 25th, 2006, 9:02pm » |
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 5:07pm, floridian wrote:
Bob - I'm guessing you've never been a professor,
Most professors are not out to get rich, (and the majority of those who are are in the business school). Global warming isn't a gold-mine for academics; its a mine field.
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No, I have never been a professor. Never had an interest in that type of work.
It may be true that most professors are not out to get rich but I think I can safely say none of them are out to earn as little as possible. Being 'published' looks good on the resume. A good resume means a paycheck. A better resume with 'published author' on it means a better paycheck.
on Jan 25th, 2006, 4:52pm, pattik wrote:
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Very true. But, that book did not get into the library for free. Somebody had to pay for it.
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 7:36pm, stevegeebe wrote:Lee...I'm glad that we, down here, don't have to worry about such things as rising sea levels. Ain't nothing to do about it anyway..really.
About the natural gas costs...don't worry, we'll just send it up until there ain't no more.
Sorry I seem so bitter...I just am.
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If your not concerned about rising water?
We produce enough natural gas to blow Louisiana back where it should be, not to be a snot about it.
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 4:47pm, echo wrote:
It is presently sitting on store shelves cleverly
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Glad I was here to help
PS - I have a wee bit in my bladder I'm about to dispense of in the aforementioned toilet. |
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Re: Global warming?
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OK may have a bunch of gas and LA may have the biggest refiners but soon we can forget about OK and LA (and TX). Canada just opened the largest oilsand mine in the world. Cheap gas and oil. YeeHaa, order your new Expedition now before Ford folds.
Can we say "We love you Canada".
And speaking of Canada, where's Margi?
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on Jan 25th, 2006, 10:02pm, BobG wrote:OK may have a bunch of gas and LA may have the biggest refiners but soon we can forget about OK and LA (and TX). Canada just opened the largest oilsand mine in the world. Cheap gas and oil. YeeHaa, order your new Expedition now before Ford folds.
Can we say "We love you Canada".
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Your right again Bob, Magie may become the energy czar of Canada. But she is a reasonable person and will accept our US $ no problemo. There is a certain problem with extracting all the goodies from that sand. It might just require American technology to do it , in an efficient manner. Could be a win win deal. Then we can sink LA, half of Texas and most major cities on the east and west coasts, if your a believer.....................
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Re: Global warming?
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That sand has the potential to be the biggest oil supply in the world. I think Margi would be great as head honcho. Just think about it. A women as the most powerful oil barron in the world. That would really piss off the Arabs.
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Run for office Margie we are behind/ahead of you.
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