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Hypothalimus
« on: Sep 11th, 2005, 12:36am » |
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I would like to know about the hypothalimus and how it affects us CHers. The thing is, i dont know any medical terminology at all, so i read shit and have no idea what it says.
Can yous either give me links to really basic lay-man info, or maybe just tell me about it in simple terms?
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #1 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 1:36am » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 12:36am, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote: maybe just tell me about it in simple terms?
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Our hypothalmus is fucked up.  Sorry, I'm sure someone who can actually answer that will come along.
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It controls various muscular movements (hence its part in Parkinson's disease) and also some pain functions. When the pain functions get out of sync, we get our cluster pains. Tomorrow I am off to get mine operated on, so I'll be off the board for a few weeks, but will let you know the results. PFDANs to all and to all a good, long, long remission. I really do admire the courage and helpfulness of the members and read the posts every day, even if in the middle of an attack-the extra pain is worth it. Keep well everyone-Tom
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #3 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 3:37am » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 3:23am, CHTom wrote:| It controls various muscular movements (hence its part in Parkinson's disease) and also some pain functions. When the pain functions get out of sync, we get our cluster pains. |
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That is an idiotic statement...you have no idea what you are talking about.
Pain functions?
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #4 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 3:44am » |
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Oh John, good luck with your DBS even though "Alaska" is a long way from Germany!
Or did you pick Alaska cos it'll be a cold day in hell when we don't recognise you??!!
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #5 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 4:42am » |
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I thought the hypothalamus had something to do with regulating circadian rhythms (sleep/wake cycles - normally around 90 min each cycle from sleep to deep REM then briefly awake and start again) .... I guess this would explain why ha's often occur shortly after falling asleep or at least at regular times.... also coinciding with changes with light during the different seasons and effects on serotonin levels ?????
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #7 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 8:10am » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 4:42am, Kate in Oz wrote:| I thought the hypothalamus had something to do with regulating circadian rhythms (sleep/wake cycles ... |
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Dearest Kate, you are correct.
Please continue to question everything you read here as some of it doesn't necessarily represent the opinion of the majority, nor is backed up by science.
But then, what's a village without an idiot?
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #8 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 8:34am » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 3:23am, CHTom wrote:| It controls various muscular movements (hence its part in Parkinson's disease) and also some pain functions. When the pain functions get out of sync, we get our cluster pains. Tomorrow I am off to get mine operated on, so I'll be off the board for a few weeks, but will let you know the results. PFDANs to all and to all a good, long, long remission. I really do admire the courage and helpfulness of the members and read the posts every day, even if in the middle of an attack-the extra pain is worth it. Keep well everyone-Tom |
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that's a steaming heap right there...
10 seconds on google can give you better:
The hypothalamus is also the area of the brain that controls body temperature, hunger and thirst, and circadian cycles.
The hypothalamus links the nervous system to the endocrine system by synthesizing and secreting neurohormones often called releasing hormones because they function by stimulating the secretion of hormones from the anterior pituitary gland
from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #10 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 1:15pm » |
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Thanks for the help.
I have been seeing the endocrinologist at my hospital for a hyperthyroid. This quack says that the thyroid is the gland of the body that runs lots of the chemicals, keeps body temp, heartrate.......and oddly enough, when not running properly, can make one's eye(s) 'bug'. Look at barbara bush, she had a hyperactive thyroid, and that is why she has such pronounced 'bug eyes'. My 'bug eye' is the same side of my face that i get the CH on.
So anyway, back to the Firken Point:
Yous think its my hypothalimus that's fucked up and it messed with my thyroid........or yous think my thyroid is fucked up and it messed with my hypothalimus?
Statisically speaking, it is really rare for someone to 'get' 2 different diseases at the same time......im thinking one may have triggered the other.
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #11 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 2:59pm » |
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BMonee you'll be surprised to know how many of us DO have different diseases!
I've been trying to find some info for you that I know I can get when one of my clever friends is back at work tomorrow!
Not only is he extremely knowledgable he has a way of explaining things that even I can understand so you should have no problems.
I don't know enough to know if thyroid can affect hypothalamus or vice versa but I'm interested in finding out some of the same answers as you
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #12 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 8:14pm » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 1:36am, nani wrote:
Our hypothalmus is fucked up. |
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When it is all said and done, this pretty much sums it up. (at least as far as they know so far)
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The surgeons will try to unfuck my hypothalamus this Thursday.
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #14 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 8:27pm » |
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Well my hubby is asleep on the couch.... I am thinking I just might get out the plyers and my new french fry scoop and amputate his hypothalumus.....
They can put a man on the moon but they can't fix the hypothalumus..... ( or name it something easier to type)
CH sucks..... ree
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #15 on: Sep 11th, 2005, 10:12pm » |
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CH DOES suck, man.
I had some pretty pesky shadows most of the day today. O2 didnt help much at all. O2 really doesnt help me for just shadows.
PF wishes to all
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #16 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 5:07am » |
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BMonee I hope this helps you and everyone, I got it from one of my clever friends!
The hypothalamus is at the base of the brain and is the shape of an almond. Its main function is to regulate such factors as blood pressure, body temperature, fluids and electrolyte balance, the metabolism of fats and carbohydrates, and sugar levels. Structurally, it is joined to the thalamus and the two work together to help generate the sleep/wake cycle.
It also regulates both the exocrine and endocrine glands. Endocrine glands include the gonads, pineal, pituitary, thyroid, parathyroid, thymus and adrenals. The hypothalamus controls thyroid output indirectly - it does this by influencing pituitary hormones which reach the thyroid.
Apart from daily regulation of the endocrine system, the hypo also controls the timing of the release of a variety of neurohormones and neurotransmitters involved in daily and seasonal rhythms. This is thought to be fuelled by the suprachiasmatic nucleus (SCN) - known as the master body clock - which is believed to be malfunctioning amongst sufferers.
I don't know whether or not our dodgy hypo can cause a malfunctioning thyroid, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Floridian has picked up some data on this, as follows:
"There is conflicting evidence as to whether clusterheads as a group have unusual thyroid activity. It is known that the Hypothalamus plays a role in regulating the thyroid, and the hypothalamus does not work normally in cluster headaches. Only two studies have been published on this topic, and both were relatively small and were conducted in the 1980s.
The first study found that T3 thyroid hormone (the active form) was lower in cluster headache patients. Levels of T4 and TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) were also lower than normal, although this did not reach statistical significance (but might have in a larger study).
A second study found that there was no difference between clusterheads and normal people in terms of T3, T4, or TSH. They did, however, find an unusual pattern of the hormone prolactin and response to prolactin:
1) 24 hour average levels of prolactin are abnormally low in male (but not female) cluster headache patients when in remission and in cycle.
2) Prolactin levels are often abnormally high during a cluster attack.
3) Secretion of prolactin in response to TRH was lower in the female patients (not in the males)."
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #17 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 7:27am » |
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To simplify LeLimey's post (great post by the way)... It's possible that your fucked-up hypothalamus caused your fucked-up thyroid (but not vise-versa). However, there is no good evidence to support this. It's probably just a coincidence.
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #19 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 10:46am » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 3:23am, CHTom wrote:| Tomorrow I am off to get mine operated on, so I'll be off the board for a few weeks, but will let you know the results. |
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You're getting your hypothalamus operated on? What for? By who? That's a pretty tricky place to have people poking around...
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 3:23am, CHTom wrote:| ...., so I'll be off the board for a few weeks, .... |
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That's probably an empty promise, as this troll will soon be back with a new name, uttering more garbage.
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #21 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 1:27pm » |
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Outstanding, Helen. Thank you for that reply.
I agree with Ueli: This troll will be back under a different moniker. 
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #22 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 1:51pm » |
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So is it confirmed that CHTom is our troll (Hdido, PCMMK,etc...). If so, this guy is a real piece of work. What determination to do bad.
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #23 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 11:30pm » |
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on Sep 11th, 2005, 3:23am, CHTom wrote:| I read the posts every day, even if in the middle of an attack-the extra pain is worth it. Keep well everyone-Tom |
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I'm a newbie here and even I'm suss.... how can you do ANYTHING in the middle of an attack ?????
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Re: Hypothalimus
« Reply #24 on: Sep 13th, 2005, 11:57am » |
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CHTom,
If you're an imposter (someone posing as a CH sufferer), why don't you go operate on your hypothalamus with a Texas toothpick (aka Deep-Throat prober).
Anyone who claims to browse the Internet while suffering an attack is not only bogus, but stupidly showed that he is a fraud.
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Ahhh, what a relief to be pain free. Hang in there. Good times are comin'.
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