Author |
Topic: Commonality (Read 1476 times) |
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender: 
Posts: 84
|
 |
Commonality
« on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 8:18am » |
 Quote  Modify
|
Does anyone know of any surveys that have looked for commonality for CH sufferers.
|
|
 IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
floridian
Guest
|
Intense pain. 
More likely than the average joe to have sleep apnea, impaired circulation/PFO heart problems, use tobacco and caffeine, low melatonin, and have a history of head/jaw trauma and/or sinus disease.
Also all male, highly intelligent, rich, good looking, a sense of humor, athletic, musical, and good with children
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Redd
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
Gender: 
Posts: 6661
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #2 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:10am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Feb 23rd, 2005, 8:59am, floridian wrote:
Also all male, highly intelligent, rich, good looking, a sense of humor, athletic, musical, and good with children
|
|
|
|
IP Logged |
I saw an act of faith today. A man was on his knees, not in a pew in a Church, but in a garden planting seeds. ~~Unknown
|
|
|
LeLimey
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
OUCH-US - Less "ME" and more "WE"
 
Gender:
Posts: 11720
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #3 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:14am » |
Quote Modify
|
GSOH.... nuff said eh Floridian?!!!v
|
|
IP Logged |
The arsehole I'm divorcing needs to get a life and stop stalking mine
|
|
|
karma
New Board Hall of Famer
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
Gender:
Posts: 857
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #4 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:21am » |
Quote Modify
|
Quote:| Also all male, highly intelligent, rich, good looking, a sense of humor, athletic, musical, and good with children |
|
tru dat 
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #5 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 9:35am » |
Quote Modify
|
The 3rd paragraph would explain why I have been so successful over the years.
The other stuff is well recorded. What about what isn't?
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
Sean_C
Guest
|
on Feb 23rd, 2005, 8:59am, floridian wrote:Intense pain.
More likely than the average joe to have sleep apnea, impaired circulation/PFO heart problems, use tobacco and caffeine, low melatonin, and have a history of head/jaw trauma and/or sinus disease.
Also all male, highly intelligent, rich, good looking, a sense of humor, athletic, musical, and good with children
|
|
I think that just about sums it up in a nut shell
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
floridian
Guest
|
On a more serious note,
Quote: Psychol Rep. 2000 Oct;87(2):555-8.
Increased prevalence of sensing types in men with cluster headaches.
Mueller L, Gallahger RM, Steer RA, Ciervo CA. University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, School of Osteopathic Medicine, Department of Family Medicine, USA.
To ascertain whether the percentage of men who suffer with cluster headaches and are classified as sensing types according to Jung's theory of psychological types was comparable to the percentage (74%) of Sensing types that was found by Gallagher, et al. among women who experience migraine headaches, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator was administered to 25 male cluster-headache patients. There were 19 (76%) male Sensing types, and this was comparable to the percentage of Sensing types for migrainous women. The results are discussed as supporting previous contentions that Sensing types may be prone to developing psychosomatic symptoms related to stress. |
|
Quote:Headache. 1992 Mar;32(3):119-25.
Episodic cluster headache. I: Personality and some neuropsychological characteristics in male patients.
Levi R, Edman GV, Ekbom K, Waldenlind E. Department of Neurology, Soder Hospital, Stockholm, Sweden.
The etiology and pathogenesis of cluster headache remain largely unknown. Some previous studies have focused on personality characteristics in cluster headache. However, no consistent personality profile has been found. The present study applied two personality inventories, the Karolinska Scales of Personality (KSP) and the Heart and Lifestyle Type A Measure (HALTAM), that have not previously been used in the context of cluster headache. A correlation has been suggested between left-handedness and early learning difficulties, and cluster headache. Thus, these variables were included and measured by inventory techniques. Forty-nine out of 51 consecutive male patients with episodic cluster headache participated in the present study. As compared to controls, the cluster headache patients were significantly more anxiety-prone (higher scores in the KSP Somatic anxiety and Muscular tension subscales), less successfully socialized (low scores in the KSP Socialization scale), and had a more hostile attitude towards others (higher scores in the HALTAM Hostility scale). No relationships between left-handedness or early learning difficulties, and cluster headache disease were found. The implications of the personality differences for the etiology of cluster headache disease are discussed.
|
|
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #8 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 11:56am » |
Quote Modify
|
I was thinking along a more 'nuts and bolts' line. Any survey using analytical theories will engender opposite views 'depending on the relationship with your mother, your waste system and your genitals'. The survey from Sweden looks like an old paradigm psychological kind of study which in effect is have a hunch then set up an experiment or study to prove it.
I was hopeful of something like physiology, health history, metabolism. Haven't thought it through properly yet but it would seem a good idea to have something so maybe we could tell young people who have the disposition what to expect to take Kudzu regularly (for example) Maybe, just maybe, outside of the presentation there is a commonanlity that leads somewhere else. From my own experiences and from reading these boards for a few days it feels like we are fire fighting. Speaking of which my current shadow has just come asking for a incessant walk round the house.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
floridian
Guest
|
Serotonin problems. Activated hypothalamus when in cycle or chronic. Low levels of choline. Plus those other things I mentioned between the wit and sarcasm:
More likely than the average joe to have sleep apnea, impaired circulation/PFO heart problems, use tobacco and caffeine, low melatonin, and have a history of head/jaw trauma and/or sinus disease.
|
| « Last Edit: Feb 23rd, 2005, 1:27pm by floridian » |
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Bob P
New Board Hall of Famer
Shut up Bob!
Gender:
Posts: 3436
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #10 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 2:09pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Quote:| depending on the relationship with your mother, your waste system and your genitals |
|
No wonder Jonny has clusters!
|
|
IP Logged |
Mrs. Barlow, I never, and I repeat never, ever pissed in your steam iron.
"SHUT UP HUB!"
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #11 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 2:22pm » |
Quote Modify
|
I realise that many people have been involved in looking at why and what CHs are. I think I have probably expressed myself badly here.
I have what I think is a genuine question. My understanding is that some scientific knowledge is available i.e uneven circadian rythm of the hypothalmus, seretonin imbalance, restriction within the carotoid artery, cafeine/ tobacco/ alcohol influences, apnea and so on and that these are commonalities. However no-one knows why CH occur and why some things work for some and not others.
I am new to this site and I do not mean to sound challenging or disrespectful. I have suffered most of my life with bad headaches and since coming on here many things have fallen in to place. I have started to reflect on the whole history of my own condition and began to wonder if there were commonalities within that history that might match other people's i.e. I had some sort of blood problem when I was 11 which took 9 months to resolve. I am very allergic to house dust. I remember often through my childhood that one nasal passage was always blocked but not from a cold and so on. Whilst a neurologist diagnosed CHs 2 years ago, no-one told me what this meant. It is only since I found this wonderful site that I realised what it is.
I get the impression that I have irritated you. If this is the case I am truly sorry. I had no intention of doing so.
I have in mind working out a survey of some sort but wanted to check out if it had been done already. These are only loose thoughts at the moment and may remain so.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
Tiannia
New Board Hall of Famer
Life does not apologies......
Gender:
Posts: 3241
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #12 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 2:27pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Dont take it wrong but this question gets asked a lot here espeically when there is someone new. Not saying that your question is not valid, but you might want to start with a search of Polls. There have been a lot here (granted all unscientific but still a good place to start) on different medical conditions or childhood illnesses, trama, what not.
Good Luck and while I wish you did not have to be here, glad you found us.
PF Wishes,
-Tia
|
|
IP Logged |
The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change. - Carl Rogers
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #13 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 2:35pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Thankyou Tiannia that is helpful and no I dont take it wrong. Where do I find the poll information?
Ellick.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
floridian
Guest
|
on Feb 23rd, 2005, 2:22pm, Ellick wrote:
I get the impression that I have irritated you. If this is the case I am truly sorry. I had no intention of doing so.
|
|
No, it can be hard to get a straight answer here sometimes - I don't think anyone is irritated with you, just joking around. Don't take it personally. You are asking reasonable questions.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #15 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 3:28pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Thankyou Floridian. I have ideas. Dont want to bore people with replication but do want to keep on asking questions.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
Sean_C
Guest
|
My cluster headaches started at age 13 shortly after a severe concussion. I was hit with a pipe that was swung like a baseball bat on my lower right base of skull. I lost vision for three days, not to mention a severe constant headache for two weeks. However I was misdiagnosed for ten years so the relevance is slim in relation to my cluster headache.
Sean.....................
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #17 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 4:04pm » |
Quote Modify
|
I have had 3 quite strong bangs to the head. Ist one was in 1974 (wher I was knocked out and another two in 1979.
I read somewhere that the average time between Head trauma and onset of CHs is 9 years. An osteopath once told me that I had a callousing under the skull which was due to the knocks. At that time a neurologist told me I had migraines. At that time I used to feel as though my right eye was being pushed in towards the centre of my face and I had terrible headaches. They were not like the Chs I get now. The osteopath fixed that problem in 20 minutes. He said he'd make my system work round the problem. I had terrible headaches again in mid 1980s and was diagnosed as having Cluster migraine and was prescribed cafergot.
I have always had very bad headaches but not the typical CH type until the last ten years. I have gone for osteopathic treatment on many ocassions but it has not stopped an episode of CH. It may seem like Head traumas could be responsible for Ch, but not everyone has that history. My pains are in general rlated to the area where I was knocked.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
don
Guest
|
Sure and they all come to the same conclusion:
Everybodies differant except the pain hurts like hell.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #19 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:19pm » |
Quote Modify
|
The one thing we all share. This abominal intense pain.
I am 5 weeks into a cycle. Some days just hurt so much.
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
BobG
New Board Hall of Famer
Gender:
Posts: 5747
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #20 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:20pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Commonality? About the only thing we have in common is that we all different.
And the only thing we all agree on is it is OK to ask any question you want.
And the answer to your next question is........
Yes. Don does.
|
|
IP Logged |
Stay stressed. Never relax. Never sleep. Ever.
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #21 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:30pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Thankyou I will. My next question was not about Don!
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #22 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:52pm » |
Quote Modify
|
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
LeLimey
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
OUCH-US - Less "ME" and more "WE"
Gender:
Posts: 11720
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #23 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 6:55pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Your next question wasn't about Don?
Oh well.. that was the only commonality you'll find matey and you blew it!
Made a change from poor old Don though!!
|
|
IP Logged |
The arsehole I'm divorcing needs to get a life and stop stalking mine
|
|
|
Ellick
New Board Junior
ET found here.
Gender:
Posts: 84
|
|
Re: Commonality
« Reply #24 on: Feb 23rd, 2005, 7:20pm » |
Quote Modify
|
|
|
IP Logged |
ET
|
|
|
|
|
|
Home
Help
Search
Members
Member Map
Login
Register
Reply
Notify of replies
Send Topic
Print
Remove
test rss