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SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« on: Nov 15th, 2004, 9:01pm » |
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a co-worker recently read an insert from a print out about c/h's. to me and it said that there was a 20% suicide rate with chronic sufferers. i remember in 1996 after 72 hrs. of attacks. i had told myself i can't take this anymore. i actually had a gun to my head. that was also the first time i passed out while having an attack. people say that was GOD"S way of saying (no, were not doing this). after i woke 20 mins. later, the gun was laying beside me. i asked both my family and nuro. dr. about the passing out, both said that everyone has a threshhold of pain and when u go over it, the brain sometimes will say (nite, nite). this has only happened about 6 times in 13 years. i once passed out while sitting on the edge of my parents bathtub, fell and cut my head. has anyone expierenced this (passing out, not the gun). ALWAYS REMEMBER IT WILL GO AWAY!
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Re: SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« Reply #1 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 9:05pm » |
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Have never had the passing out experience, just the gun experience.
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Re: SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« Reply #2 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 9:09pm » |
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always tell my self now 20 more minutes, 15 more minutes etc..
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 9:18pm » |
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Been on this site for 3 years, have had CH for 28 years, and have never once known of anyone committing suicide solely due to CH.
What was the insert from?
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 9:46pm » |
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something is wife got off the internet, while looking up my disorder. will try to find out what site.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 10:50pm » |
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considered suicide several times. couldn't find the guns - hubby hid them from me, Thank God! Never passed out other than going to the ER and they knocked me out for 24 hours with some good drugs.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:15pm » |
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There have been many of times I have held a gun to my head but didn't have the balls to pull the trigger. I have had my husband lock up the guns and hid the key to keeep me safe. I would most definely be dead by now if it were not for an intervention plan!
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:16pm » |
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I've passed out 2 times that I know of. (Found the o2 mask on the floor still on) I agree that the brain just says "fu*k this!" then goes to sleep. Happens to people with injuries all the time. (Without the loss of blood)
I only wish it happen more often!!
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 15th, 2004, 11:58pm » |
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I have never passed out from a CH, but kept passing out from a brain hemmorhage. Each time the morphine wore off (before the surgery) I was OUT. Have considered suicide during CH- both during an actual hit and during "down" time in a bad episode. I apparently have too great a sense of responsibility to the growing number of people (young and old) that I care for (literally- not as in care about - but I suppose I feel responsible about leaving people I care about too). Anyway - still here, probably not goin' anywhere soon.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 5:31am » |
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Survivor,
There has been moments in my life when I have been thinking about killing myself, but I never got that far, you know, that I would have a gun in my hand.
I just thought about it...
And once the pain eventually ended, the suicital thoughts did, too. But I have told everyone in my life that these HAs I suffer from have a nasty nickname.
I have never passed out.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 5:59am » |
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Been there, done that. Have passed out twice from CH attack. Once on the couch and once on the stair case.
Jan 19th found me with the 357 pointed at the Beast. Thank gawd I looked to see where the trigger was, because I saw my wifes picture and said NO!
I found this site on Jan 20th at 4AM...THANKS DJ
Peace and life to all,
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 6:23am » |
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Thank the Lord I have never got to that stage myself, and don't know anyone else who has, but Goadsby always says when asked that he not only knows of suicide, but gruesomely also knew of someone who took their own eye out! Yeeeeuccchhh!
It didn't help the pain of course
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 8:37am » |
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Boy this thread really scared me. My brother has the CH and has fought them for 10 years!! He is chronic and probably faces the beast 3 to 5 times a week. In 10 years the pain has got progressively worse and I can't even imagine how he does it. I always tell him to call me if he needs me (he rarely does!!) I know he wouldn't commit suicide, however I know the thought has crossed his mind, he tells me when you are having a CH and you are all alone late at night and your mental capacity isn't all there, your mind can really take you to some dark places. Anyway just thought I would chime in. I love this site, and I think you guys are great. Just another concerned supporter!
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 9:03am » |
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on Nov 16th, 2004, 8:37am, MOMO3 wrote:| He is chronic and probably faces the beast 3 to 5 times a week. |
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It could be worse. It could be 3 - 5 times a day ! (or more) 
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Re: SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« Reply #15 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 9:15am » |
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I know and I always tell myself that it could be worse, and there have been times in the past that it has been worse, alot worse. So I am thankful for where he is now. But I still worry about him 
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Re: SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« Reply #16 on: Nov 16th, 2004, 12:27pm » |
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I have come close to passing out, like a dark circle started spreading over my vision, had to hang on to something cause I got very dizzy. BUT I also get very nauseated and vomit sometimes. I know that is not common in CH but that is my body's response to all pain. Anytime I feel pain I feel naseaus (can't spell today!) So think MY dizzyness and near fainting is due to dehydration. So JIC that is a contributing factor for YOU just push those fluids on yourself constantly!
Question.....anyone know of a link (however small) of anuerysm (once again can't spell) and CH? My grandfather (on my moms side) had CH (back then called Histamine headaches) and then later in his life (probably after about 10+ yrs of remission from CH) they found an anuerysm in his brain.
Wanted to point out something I just said....he went into remission ..... He had CH for years and years and years and then one day they were gone, gone forever. There is hope. I keep telling myself that. THERE IS HOPE.
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Re: SUICIDES DUE TO CLUSTERS
« Reply #17 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 4:51am » |
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Yeah, been there and at least thought seriously about it. There is a gun beside the bed and four ounces of pressure on the trigger would make sure I never had another CH. Luckily or not, I have responsibilities to way too many people to do something like that.
Unlucky me, I've never passed out during an attack. I've been dizzy many times but I don't know if that is the meds or the pain or lack of sleep or just what. After an attack I am just limp as a dishrag though, very nearly unconcious on my feet.
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 5:04am » |
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Suicide is not an option. It will only cause a headache for someone else. They will have to clean up your mess. They will have to pay for your funeral. Don't do that to yourself or your family.
And besides that, put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, you'll probably miss and just blow off the side of your face. Then you'll have to live the rest of your life ugly as hell and still have clusters.
And besides that, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Suicide is forever.
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 5:26am » |
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BobG could not have said it better. These things are painful as hell, I know because mine have a tendency to reach Kip 9 - 10 very frequently if I can't abort with Imitrex injections in time. Mine escalate to the top side of the scale in about 10 minutes when I'm really goin.
You've just got to tell yourself the pain will end soon. SUICIDE IS FOREVER AND THERE'S NO COMING BACK!! ,
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 6:39am » |
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being a Londoner (English) there is not a ready availability of guns and I have no history with them. I do have to say my new American family that, whilst respecting your constitutional rights (oh that we were citizens and not subjects of the dark age form of government known as monarchy) I do have to say this has to be an argument for gun control, if not nationally at least in the vicinity of clusterheads!
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 6:56am » |
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Nahh. I love the things.  Had 'em around all my life and don't really consider them as anything other than a tool or contingency item, like a smoke detector or something.
I'm American but notice my location now. There is or at least might be, a real need for self defense these days. 
In all seriousness though, gun-control can be reasonably argued either way but it is like religion or politics, converts are few and far between.
Best regards and nice to have someone to talk to at this time of day.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 9:19am » |
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I'm sure that in the past suicide rates were high, I imagine meds of any kind, no one who understands you, and the whole town thinking that you are demon possessed. Add to that no safety net so if you didn't work you would probably starve to death, I'm sure a chronic sufferer would have to fight everyday to keep from suicide.
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« Reply #23 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 9:26am » |
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This board probably saved a few lives. I would bet that there are people who have seriously considered suicide but didn't because of this board. After all, there are other people dealing with the beast and living a decent life so they can too. I think this place is a lot more than just a clearinghouse or support network. I consider it a lifesaver as well.
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 11:02am » |
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Bob said it all.... I to own guns from flinters to the M-4gery (civilian clone of the M-4)
Sucide is just not an option.
Gun controll is hitting that target and nothing more. Since the beast, demon to me is not that type of target no bullet can hit it...
Bob appears to know about sucide from a point of view that I also know. That is cleaning of the mess.
I remain armed to this day even while typing.
Some wacko killed in cold blood, with cold steel, my elderly in laws and for what??? No one knows because this wacko who was shot by the cops in the act of stealing blades the very day before and was released by the so called System of Justice, comitted sucide after the murders...
So those reading this get to see a darker side of me... Mac
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