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« on: Nov 27th, 2005, 2:10pm » |
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My doctor has informed me that pepole with narcotic contracts will be subject to drug testing in the future. That because of the wide spread meth problem, those on narcotic meds will soon be subject to mandatory drug testing because its in the contract that you are not using street drugs. Who do they think is going to pay for the testing? Certainly the insurance companys won't pay for it. That means we will have to pay for it if we want our meds. What is the conection to meth? I don't understand why we are being singled out. Is this just anouther way to protect the doctors, who already don't want to write these prescriptions because they are more concerned about thier own ass's instead of helping the pepole they swore an oath to help. Why must poor health be such a crime in this country? Is it to much to ask for to seek refuge from our pain, or maybe it would be best if we all turned to meth so we can hasten our departure from this earth. Out of site, out of mind!
Had enough! How about you!
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From: Meredith_49
Sent: 11/23/2005 6:29 PM
Well, so far my pain clinic has never even brought up the idea of a contract and I have been with them 6 months now. I have never had a test, of any kind, nor have I ever felt any sort of suspicion, ever. This is Calif. just FYI, I am on the patch and Dilaudid, and have never been given any treatment but kindness. I do know that if there are tests, there would be a co-pay for me and the insurance would pick up the remainder. I think we have to remember that with the DEA looking over the Drs. shoulders we have to expect some changes but so far there has been NO mention of anything radical. YET...that means You're Elegible Too.
Meredith
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From: MzLiz10
Sent: 11/24/2005 5:23 AM
Yeah, I have heard of people getting charged up to $1200 for a test (depends on how many substances they test for). I think that is insane! Believe it or not some insurance companies do pay. What a scam! They also can test to check if you are taking your meds. Apparently, some folks fake it to sell the drugs on the street. And I have heard of someone who got kicked from a pain management clinic when there was a false negative (he was taking meds but test said no). Unbelievable, no wonder we get so paranoid. They treat us like criminals also. Liz
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From: CallMeOuch
Sent: 11/24/2005 2:36 PM
I had to sign a contract with my doctor, mostly incase I claim to have lost my pills, driving etc. There is however a provision about alcohol use and his ability to test for it.
In a world where dishonest healthy people drug seek, I cannot blame any doctor who wants to protect his practice.
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From: ThurstyUpNorth
Sent: 11/24/2005 5:04 PM
My area health comunity is very paranoid about priscribing pain meds. They are more concerned about loseing thier license, haveing to answer to the medical board. I have been to two pain clinics, Mayo in Rochester, and Abott Northwestern as well as a contract. What happens is when my Dr. is not there the week that I need a refill, the other Dr.s don't want to fill the whole Rx, and I end up with two co-pays. Its the amount that I need that they freak on, not that I'm suspect of abuse by my Dr. My Dr. has assurred me that it won't happen again, but I've been told this before. I have been able to keep my doseage the same for years at a time, and have only raised the doseage at the Dr.s sugestion, not at my request. I'am a prisoner to the system, and feeling the pressure! I hope for everyones sake that this reality doesn't come true.
Thursty!
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From: ole'girl
Sent: 11/26/2005 5:03 PM
Not on as many meds due to circumstances, but what all of you are saying is scary.
ole'girl
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From: NatzoSwift
Sent: 11/26/2005 5:10 PM
I have not heard about this at all. I do not have a contract or never signed one with my pain doctor either...and I've been with him for over 4 years now. Maybe it's something that your particular doctor is doing...or your area???? I would think if it were a "generalized" one, we would have heard about it...but, maybe they don't want to "make it public"???
Interesting though!!!! I would think someone else would have to pay for it...that's asking a lot out of people who barely have enough money to pay for their prescriptions or medical care though...who wants to pay for a test that you don't really want???
If you hear of more info on this, would love to hear about it. Sure hope it ain't so...just annoying, that's all...have no reason that I would fail the test!!!
NatzoSwift
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From: dolphinjen14
Sent: 11/26/2005 9:33 PM
I would really like to the the legislation on this before I make any assumptions. I can't even begin to name the rights they are violating here. I am sure that if anything like was to happen, it would be made very public because it would look good to the american public and the war on drugs. The politicians would rack up on votes. Anyway, I would really like to ask your doctor for the information on why this would be happening and then ask him to provide the government institution information that has passed the legislation, otherwise, your doctor may be implying generality to something only his office is doing.
If their is legislation, Please provide the addresses, phone numbers and a copy of it or a link to it. I would love to read some more on this.
Jenn
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From: LAS
Sent: 11/27/2005 1:58 AM
I had to sign a pain contract once it became apparent my problem was going to require long term narcotic use. Basically said I couldn't go to another doctor for the same type of meds (which is not a problem unless my pain doctor is out of town and I'm out of meds - but since I schedule 4 weeks out, the clinic lets me know when he's there or not), have to use 1 pharmacy, I won't share my drugs, etc. I get my urine tested almost every time I'm there, but I'm 99% sure it's not for drug testing, only to check on my kidneys. He used to draw blood more, but since I'm on chemotherapy the rheumatologist has been running panels every month, so he doesn't feel the need to chase me with a needle every time (thank god for small favors!). I know they have to cover themselves to a certain extent, but I don't feel in any way that my doctors don't trust me. In fact, my doctor has reassured me and laughed that my prior doctors DID think my problem was in my head. He said he's had plenty that were obviously either faking it or had mental problems and I wasn't one of them.
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From: Maume1
Sent: 11/27/2005 7:18 AM
LAS, I was also told it was in my head!! LOL I felt like saying..no, its in my back, arm, legs, shoulder, ribs...my heads just fine...heheheh
today
Anyway I too sogned the same thing as LAS. It is part of OHIO law (Ill look for the paper she gave me telling about what law it was , statute etc.)
Anyway I am about to make a post of what happened to me today at my appointment (Had to go back today (sat) as my appointment on last week was cut short due to some problems with another patient)
In it. I will tell about what happened regarding this contract
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From: Kelly1962TX
Sent: 11/27/2005 9:05 AM
I agree with you 100%
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From: Bodhicat1
Sent: 11/27/2005 4:40 PM
I haven't had to sign a contract, and have been on long acting narcotic (Avinza) for about 3 years. It was a struggle being a chronic pain patient at the beginning, but once all the tests were in with a positive MRI, and the neurosurgeon saying inoperable, there was nothing else to be done but meds. I had already tried the physcial therapy, and am a very high functioning, active person. But yes, in the beginning, especially when I was caregiving for my mother with dementia, the Dr. said it was stress, etc. Well of course stress adds to the pain, but doesn't create it (in my case).
I know some states are way more restrictive about drugs, and fortunately California is very conscious about pain patients rights. I just wish this stupid war on drugs, that's been going on for years & that doesn't work could be stopped, and that the government could just take control of all the drugs somehow, and get it out of the hands of criminals. Oh, well, another story. Please keep us all posted. We should all be aware of our rights, and fight for them if need be. It's wrong for us to have to be in pain because our society just hasn't figured out how to cope with illegal drugs and addiction (we could take some hints from some of the European community who are having better success at this).
Keep up the good fight.
Eileen (Bodhicat1)
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From: ThurstyUpNorth
Sent: 11/27/2005 6:17 PM
The pain contract stipulates that we are not using illegal drugs, and we are required of coarse to sign, or we can't get our meds. This is in Minnesota, and I've been on these meds for ten years now with no reason to be suspect. I will have to question my Dr. more on my next visit. I don't know on what level this is being considered. I'am how ever surprised that more people aren't under pain contracts.
Thanks for your reply,
Thursty!
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