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2000 deaths
« on: Oct 26th, 2005, 10:28am » |
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This is not a commentary on my opinion of the war. Just something I saw on the front page today. 
2,000 total # of US military deaths in Operation Iraqi Freedom
1,846 # who've died since the President declared an end to major combat
68 percent of dead who were in the Army
25 percent of dead who were in the National Guard or reserves
1 percent of dead who were in the Air Force
These are just US military numbers. Many, many more have died. Pray for peace, everyone.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #1 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 10:30am » |
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................................... so sad
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #2 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 10:33am » |
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and what are we getting for all this?
It was a bad mistake and it was made for all the wrong reasons.
George and Dick and their families and friends are getting rich while the rest of us are being gouged.
Any idea of how much harm was done to our reputation internationally?
Will anyone ever hold Bush/Republicans accountable?
SAD!
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #3 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 11:13am » |
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our figures while not as dramatic as the american ones are just as bad
if you hold bush accountable can i go shoot tony blair?? 
and all coz of oil 
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #4 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 11:45am » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:13am, zanychef wrote:...and all coz of oil
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And there is something inherently wrong with ensuring the freedom of the oil trade on which the industrial economies (both yours and mine) depend? Defending commerce is not a dishonorable cause. Upholding the international principal of economic freedom best serves our interests in the long run. A proper government upholds the interests of its citizens (and economics is a vital one) in its conduct toward other nations.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #5 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:13am, zanychef wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #6 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 12:24pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am, thomas wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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I was just wondering the same thing Thomas...
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #8 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:39pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am, thomas wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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Because the oil companies know we will pay that much for it. We are all suckers.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #9 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:40pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am, thomas wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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Thomas, its not about stockpiling a warehouse full of free oil, its about making MONEY from oil.
Thats why.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #10 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:44pm » |
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This morning barrels of oil were over 62.20 each, that is contolled by the Saudis. Not the Bushies.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #11 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:46pm » |
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No, the price is controlled by supply and demand.
The US invasion in the middle east along with actual increased demand has caused prices to rise.
The saudis can only get however much someone wants to pay.
Just like in the stockmarket, unrest or uncertainty is a bad thing.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #12 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:49pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am, thomas wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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Ask the Vice President Dick.
Might have something to do with a trust fund at Halliburton.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #13 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 1:51pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:49pm, BobG wrote:
Ask the Vice President Dick.
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:44pm, thomas wrote:| This morning barrels of oil were over 62.20 each, that is contolled by the Saudis. Not the Bushies. |
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Oh yeah, and as far as accountability is concerned, how about the U.N. Kofi Annon's son was directly involved in the corrupt oil for food program with Saddam. All of the resolutions passed by the U.N. that Saddam thumbed his nose at. It doesn't matter really does it, this country is divided and will remain that way forever because that is what the politicians want, they have you right where they want you.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #14 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm » |
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well, let's see....
Do you want to look at Bush's relationship with the Saudi's?
reallY?
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #15 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am, thomas wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol?
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Hungarian price is about $ 1.35 ...
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #16 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 2:28pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm, vig wrote:well, let's see....
Do you want to look at Bush's relationship with the Saudi's?
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No, because I know he kisses their collective asses just like every president after Ronald Reagan has.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #17 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 2:45pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm, vig wrote:well, let's see....
Do you want to look at Bush's relationship with the Saudi's?
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Type Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan house into your Google. 2000 (yep thousand) rooms. It's wonderfil what $2.70 a gallon gas will buy.
He's the former president of United Arab Emirates and Ruler of Abu Dhabi.
If you have dial up connection forget it. The house is too big. It would take a hour to load.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #18 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 2:58pm » |
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2,000 dead, enough said. Politics and pontificating
won't bring them back. Pray for the widows and the children and those who remain in harms way.
Soldiers serve to defend our right to disagree
and to vote. Don't waste it.
Vote, demonstrate, speak your mind, use the press, and pray. Those are all freedoms we have because of people who serve. This particular war may or may not seem acceptable to you. The individuals who have died are not responsible for it.
Every Wednesday a group of women in our community wear black and stand together in silent vigil for those lost. We pray for peace. I served, and retired from, the US Air Force. Those of us who have served, and have seen war first hand, know the cost. 2000 dead. Enough.
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Re: 2000 deaths
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:58pm, kcopelin wrote:2,000 dead, enough said. Politics and pontificating
won't bring them back. Pray for the widows and the children and those who remain in harms way.
Soldiers serve to defend our right to disagree
and to vote. Don't waste it.
Vote, demonstrate, speak your mind, use the press, and pray. Those are all freedoms we have because of people who serve. This particular war may or may not seem acceptable to you. The individuals who have died are not responsible for it.
Every Wednesday a group of women in our community wear black and stand together in silent vigil for those lost. We pray for peace. I served, and retired from, the US Air Force. Those of us who have served, and have seen war first hand, know the cost. 2000 dead. Enough. |
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I did serve and support this war, for the humanitarian effect alone. People everywhere should be free. Hell, freedom should be something everyone gets a chance to taste. And those that don't appreciate it, should get it taken away, because it is too precious a commodity to waste.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #20 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 4:25pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 3:28pm, thomas wrote:
I did serve and support this war, for the humanitarian effect alone. People everywhere should be free. Hell, freedom should be something everyone gets a chance to taste. And those that don't appreciate it, should get it taken away, because it is too precious a commodity to waste. |
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well said, Thomas
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #21 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 4:45pm » |
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What a bunch of liberal putzes!
Same old crybaby shit.
I pay half of what the Europeans have paid for gas for years, oh boo hoo!
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #22 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 7:14pm » |
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on Oct 26th, 2005, 10:28am, nani wrote:This is not a commentary on my opinion of the war.
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Malicious compassion?
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #23 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 7:26pm » |
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WoW
Just take your eye off the ball one second. Look we agree that first and foremost basic human rights come first.
We support the worst of the worst when it comes to leaders treat their people. China, Saudi Arabia, UAE, the list goes on. We support these people by buying their oil and other products. We turn a blind eye when we buy cheaper textiles from China in Walmart. The UN turned a blind eye to Bosnia,Sudan,Etheopia,Iraq, the list goes on while ethnic cleansing and mass genocide and envonmental genocide was going on and they all new it. We should all be spanked. The inhumanity of humanity makes me want to puke.
We should look for more common large issues to rally behind instead of infighting about details of yesterday.
There I said it, Dont mean to offend.
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Re: 2000 deaths
« Reply #24 on: Oct 26th, 2005, 8:53pm » |
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Whoa, I've never been called a liberal before. Praying for peace is something I do because I have two sons. Our family has a long history of military service, and I served proudly. I would rather, as a mom, not see either of my sons go to war. Just a mom thing I guess-not liberal. If they have to go, I want them to kick butt, and never have their hands tied like my Dad's were in Vietnam.
On the other hand-watching women casting ballots in an election after years of having to hide their faces...seeing schools and places of worship and restraunts opened...Freedom, costly, and yeah, a human need.
IMHO
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