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Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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One of the groups Cindy is linked to. Hmmmmmmmm mayhap she is more responsible for her own son's death than the president hmmmmmmmm?
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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So, now some are telling her how to grieve her dead son because they don't like the groups that have aligned with her? Hmmm.
I'm pretty sure it's still a free country. I'm also pretty sure that politicians (including dubya) still work for us. She can follow him around if she wants, it's her right. I have 2 kids...if I lost either in a war based on lies... I'm pretty sure I'd be way more pissed than she is and would not limit my protest to camping on the side of the road.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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on Aug 18th, 2005, 8:05am, nani wrote:So, now some are telling her how to grieve her dead son because they don't like the groups that have aligned with her? Hmmm.
I'm pretty sure it's still a free country. I'm also pretty sure that politicians (including dubya) still work for us. She can follow him around if she wants, it's her right. I have 2 kids...if I lost either in a war based on lies... I'm pretty sure I'd be way more pissed than she is and would not limit my protest to camping on the side of the road. |
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She already fucking met with the man and thanked him after her son died. Something changed since then, it wasn't the Presidents position on the war. What part of that don't you understand?
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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on Aug 18th, 2005, 8:05am, nani wrote:| I have 2 kids...if I lost either in a war based on lies... I'm pretty sure I'd be way more pissed than she is and would not limit my protest to camping on the side of the road. |
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Mom I gotta agree I too have 2 kids and would feel the same, but The war in Iraq was not based on lies but the media and certian groups have dwelled on only key phrases and act like that is all the prez said. If anyone remembers Iraq had broken over 15 un resolutions and did not declare if and what weapons had been destroyed. They also continullay fired on us planes and troops, and great britian planes and troops. We also where only Still at war with them with a sease fire agreement in place since the gulf war. Iraq was given more that enough time and allowance to comply. They where a credible threat and as the prez said the public may not understand everything as to why we may go after credible threats but we will. Also as I did state before 17+ terrorist training camps in Iraq where shut down due to our attack into the country, most of which directly affiliated with alquida and other extremest groups clainimg to be assotiated with alquida. Those where the guidelines the prez set forth and used. people think there where no WMD's found WRONG! There where alot found and also hidden military weapons and aircraft found. The WMD's may not have been as numerious as thought but the combined power of what was found could have killed thousands, so where exactly is the lies? As in other posts I can give many more examples but would be here a long freakn time doing so. Now as far as Mrs Sheehan goes last month she raved how much she agreed with the prez and how caring he was after she met with him. Now what happened to change her mind? I understand she is a life long war protester but she is also a hipocrate and liar. she tried to get her son to move to canada instead of Re I said REENLISTING he new exactly what he was doing and did so as a volunteer. She just needs to as thomas sd STFU!
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
« Reply #7 on: Aug 18th, 2005, 8:42am » |
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IMHO, Cindy Sheehan began as a grieving mother, asking for some answers as to why her son had to die. Answers to which she was most definitely entitled. This is as it should be. Unfortunately, many anti-war, anti-Bush groups have latched on to her - not for HER reasons, but to further their own agendas. She now has "handlers" from these groups, and has allowed herself to be drawn away from her original purpose. I feel desperately sorry for her loss, as well as all of the other families who have lost a loved one in this war, but her situation has gotten out of hand.
Yes, Nani, she absolutely does have every right to camp out and speak out, against the war, and against the President. I just wish she would have continued to use her own words rather than the words of other special interest groups.
I detest this war. I was a registered Republican from the time I was old enough to vote, and I have voted in every election, national and local. Before the last presidential election, I changed my registration to "unaffiliated" because I just could not back the Republican party and George W. Bush any longer. They no longer represented my ideals - neither did the Democrats. I can't even remember who was on the ballot besides Bush and Kerry - but I voted for that person.
Did I throw my vote away? No, I don't think so. I made a statement - small though it may be, but a statement nonetheless. So shoot me.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
« Reply #8 on: Aug 18th, 2005, 8:47am » |
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Sandy, although I do support the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, I agree with you 100%. Nicely written.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
« Reply #9 on: Aug 18th, 2005, 8:59am » |
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Thank you Frank,
I too support the war in Afganistan 100% because we were going after Bin Ladin. Iraq, from day one, thought it was wrong.
I think I am smart enough to realize that we can't bring our troops home now, as much as I would love to see that happen. We began this war in Iraq, doesn't matter at this point why, but we're in it now. If we withdraw now, before the Iraqui government and military are able to manage on their own, we will have created a complete disaster for the entire Middle East. We have to stay the course (I hate that term), until they can handle it on their own, and then we have to GET OUT and LEAVE THEM ALONE. No military presence, no oil, no interfering with their new government.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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on Aug 18th, 2005, 8:42am, Sandy_C wrote:| IMHO, Cindy Sheehan began as a grieving mother, asking for some answers as to why her son had to die. Answers to which she was most definitely entitled. This is as it should be. |
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Yes, and she had already met with the President. Before all of this publicity crap started. Hello??@!!?!?!
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This is just the beginning.
Can you say "Vietnam"?
IMO Bush has no fucking clue how to get us out of there so he propogandizes the noble causes for us to stay.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Aw come on don, Lance dont know how to pull out either but no one is complaining you wont share.
Actually troop reduction will be slow and has actually begun. Shoot we are still in Korea and been there since the late 1940's. If need be troops stay to ensure we at home are protected, so be it. That is just the life of the military. And if I am correct wasnt johnson not nixon prez when we went into Vietnam? Wasnt nixon the one that got us out? Hmmmm .
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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on Aug 18th, 2005, 10:24am, don wrote:This is just the beginning.
Can you say "Vietnam"?
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Last time I checked, we still had troops in Germany, Korea, Japan, Bosnia..................... 
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Viet Nam would be US territory now if it weren't for the politicians and the war protesters.
Pull out before the place is stabilized and it will collapse, making every life that was lost there one that was lost for nothing.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Damn straight, Bob. From everything I've read, at the outside, it would have taken only three more months, and the VC would have surrendered. For the people drawing parallels between Iraq and Viet Nam, they need to read their damn history books and realize that yes, we need to stay until the job is well and truly finished. None of us may like it, and there may be people virulently opposed to the war in Iraq, but the fact remains that we are there, and we have a mission to finish. Period.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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I need a nuero appointment I guess. Agreeing with Bob P. 
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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I dont understand why Bush wont meet with her and just repeat the bullshit he has been spouting for the last 2 years. Why cant he just repeat the tired ol crap like: "the world is a better place...." or "freedom is on the march....", or "freedom isnt free", or "we freed our long time good friends and brethren the Iraqis"? Why cant he just repeat those same things he says just about every day?
On the other hand, i think that taking a meeting with a woman that decided to camp near his house would set a bad precident. Then, if he meets with Mrs. Sheehan, he will have to meet with other people that decide to stalk him.
In fact, there should be a rule: If you pitch a tent outside the presidents house and demand a meeting, you will most certainly not get a meeting.
I am so sorry for Mrs sheehan's loss as well as the other thousands of families and lives that have been destroyed. The woman gave her son, and her life as she knew it. That is a true patriot.
I cant believe the neocon spin machine has decided to not just trample on a dead marine's grave, now they have decided to insult the dead marine's mother.
now, THAT is the lowest thing i have ever seen. Just repugnant.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Yes, and she had already met with the President. Before all of this publicity crap started. Hello??@!!?!?!
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Did you read the rest of my post, Tom, or did you just stop with the first couple of sentences?
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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Yes I read it. I just don't understand why she is doing this, I don't believe for one minute these "handlers" are using her. The woman is too articulate to be a schill. I just want some one in the mass media to shout from the mountaintops that "CINDY SHEEHAN HAD ALREADY MET WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AND SEEMED VERY HAPPY WITH THE ANSWERS THAT HE GAVE HER AFTER HER SON'S DEATH." "NOW WHY IS SHE DEMANDING TO SEE HIM AGAIN AND PORTRAYING HIM AS A COLD HEARTED S.O.B. WHO REFUSES TO TALK TO HER?" "HE ALREADY TALKED TO HER." "THIS WOMAN IS ATTENTION WHO-RING HERSELF OUT TO THE MEDIA." That is all I want, this woman got what she is asking for already. She is politicizing her own son's death, by being a willing accomplice in a George W. Bush defamation campaign by pro-terrorist, anti-american groups. I have a word for people like her, it rhymes with runt, or hunt.
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IMHO, she has let her grief and anger cloud her better judgement at getting across what she wants to convey. You can't be positively productive if you're filled with sorrow, vengefulness and anger. Instead, it has become a media circus and cliched. Tragic really, in more more ways than just losing a loved one... 
BTW Bmonee, she did not give her sons life to death, her son made the choice to enlist with that knowledge himself. I have 2 brother in laws in the Marine Corps. and one that is finishing his last year of High School and then is off to boot camp himself. Believe me, we are not freely giving him, or the other 2, up to the armed forces. They are doing that themselves. But we support their decision and will honor their decision always, even if it hurts to the bone if they'd (God forbid) die due to a war we feel is absolutely unjust and wrong.
There, now my body can spontainously explode due to me expressing my opinion in a semi-political thread.
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In correct. It was Kennedy who put us in Nam.
We have troops and bases all over the world but in battle mode.
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In correct. It was Kennedy who put us in Nam.
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I stand corrected Kennedy a dem also but a dem with spine unlike his brother. JFK was willing to do what was right and lower taxes and by todays standards would be considered a conseritive. I know my sp sks.
Iraq my never be completely stable but when they feel they can control it and ask us to leave I believe we will.
They on the other hand my just ask us to stay in a supporting role. As in japan, germany, Bosnia,etc...
My take could be wrong but could be right too. Who knows.
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Re: Time for Cindy Sheehan to STFU!
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I don't believe for one minute these "handlers" are using her. The woman is too articulate to be a schill. |
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I do believe that the special interest groups got to her when she was down, hurt and grieving, and that she latched on to the limb that was held out to her. I agree, she WAS satisfied after her meeting with Bush, that doesn't mean that she was still not in pain. These groups are taking advantage of her.
[/quote]I just want some one in the mass media to shout from the mountaintops that "CINDY SHEEHAN HAD ALREADY MET WITH PRESIDENT BUSH AND SEEMED VERY HAPPY WITH THE ANSWERS THAT HE GAVE HER AFTER HER SON'S DEATH." "NOW WHY IS SHE DEMANDING TO SEE HIM AGAIN AND PORTRAYING HIM AS A COLD HEARTED S.O.B. WHO REFUSES TO TALK TO HER?" "HE ALREADY TALKED TO HER."
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It was in my newspapers, and on my local news.
[/quote]She is politicizing her own son's death, by being a willing accomplice in a George W. Bush defamation campaign by pro-terrorist, anti-american groups. I have a word for people like her, it rhymes with runt, or hunt. [/quote]
That's low, in my opinion. Again, I think she is being taken advantage of at a time in her life when she is at her worst. Yes, I would hope she had a spine and would tell these groups to take a hike, but, for whaterver reason, she can't. But calling her that rhyming name, is uncalled for.
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