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I guess it is hell day on the history channel. Everything you wanted to know about hell but were afraid to ask.
They just had this preacher on who believes demons inhabit people. He's doing the usual exorcism routine, pointing his finger at one young lady. "You have no legal right to be in her. I command thee satan be-gone!!"
Did he actually say that? I just about fell out of my chair laughing. There was an ackward pause and then he continued on his quest to rid people of their money....errr I mean the devil.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 5:34pm » |
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Obviously someone else confusing lawyers with the ole fella downstairs!! 
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 8:38pm » |
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I had a girfriend in high school that had that done regularly.......flipped me out when she told me about it.......she went to some sort of chruch ritual place where they pulled demons out of her and she said she'd go into some sort of freaked out trance while they did it or rite before !!! I used to get invited over to her house but I would NOT go over.......it sorta scared me.......that's sum wierd shit and 'what were her parents like' that let that happen every Sunday or so many times a month !!?? She was sort of an odd person.......probly didn't know who she really was since she was full of DEVILS more then she wasn't. Weird stuff.......had a few freinds turn on me with religion and try to get me into there CULTS. And yeah......money was the root of anuther type of evil. Don't touch that soul Pam
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Re: OMG
« Reply #3 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 9:57pm » |
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Is it ironic that in a thread where the spiritual is, for lack of a better term, set aside, the title of the thread is O(h) M(y) G(od)?
Just curious.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 10:37pm » |
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Oh My Gosh..........G wording Pam 
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Re: OMG
« Reply #5 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 10:53pm » |
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Irony? Hmmm...good question.
You know what bothers me about this...
...if the devil is the one that causes one to sin.... where does personal responsibility come in? Even growing up Catholic and forced into a confessional every Saturday... I used to wonder if it wasn't just a big cop out. Do what you want, ask for forgiveness, and go out and do what you want again.
I fully claim all of my behavior, and sorry, the only devil in me has been trying to eat my eye for 32 years.
not a sinner by choice, nani
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Re: OMG
« Reply #6 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 11:14pm » |
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Remarkably, people blame the bread for landing buttered-side down on the floor - as if the bread's fault.
They won't take responsibility for actually dropping it, or ffor buttering the wrong side in the first place.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #7 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 11:32pm » |
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Steve Allen worte a book some years ago called:
Dumbth.
Good title and this is an example.
That's what we need: snake handlers and cults.
As Bill Maher has said about these lunatics that think goofball religion is the answer to everything, teaching Darwin and rational science are nonos: It's not just wrong; it's stupid.
Nonsense gets lots of press. Sad.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #8 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 12:07am » |
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on Aug 7th, 2005, 9:57pm, clarence wrote:Is it ironic that in a thread where the spiritual is, for lack of a better term, set aside, the title of the thread is O(h) M(y) G(od)?
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Re: OMG
« Reply #9 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 7:23am » |
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Demons... LMAO!! (Thinking of the elevator scene in "Shallow Hal" ) LMAO!
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:26am » |
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My friend told me she could SEE them when they were pulled out.....they were some sort of mysterious shadows !! Gave me the willies.....these people believed this so strongly they were seeing and believeing. She used to be into sayonces also (spelling).......used to want to have them in the schools print shop dark room. (I took print shop a year in 11th grade) THAT creeped me out too but it was funny cuz she get guinea pig people to go in there and lock the door with a chair (our teacher was an older man that could barely hear or see so we got away with alot but he was a sweetie)....and some of us would hide and toss stuff or make sounds. But she got into it so deep it was still FREAKY......had nuther freind some swore was a witch esp a few guys she got mad at that dumped her. They said she threaten'd them with some sort of 'spell' and they went home and fell down stairs and all sorts of things went wrong. Mind over sudgestion Pam
I don't hang around with ANY of those people now.....dumped them gracefully when I graduated. Interestingly strange expirience tho.....one of life's short roads you take.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #11 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:28am » |
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WTF?
Okay, okay... I do have respect for others' religious beliefs and ways of expressing them.... But the wording of that does bring up a giggle or two...
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Re: OMG
« Reply #12 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:34am » |
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on Aug 7th, 2005, 9:57pm, clarence wrote:Is it ironic that in a thread where the spiritual is, for lack of a better term, set aside, the title of the thread is O(h) M(y) G(od)?
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Perhaps slightly better than "Holy Shit!" 
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Re: OMG
« Reply #13 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:47am » |
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Is this better?
NYSE Listing: OMG
OM Group, Inc., through its subsidiaries, engages in the production and marketing of metal-based specialty chemicals, powders, alloys, and related materials worldwide. It offers cobalt-based products manufactured using cobalt and other metals, including copper, zinc, manganese, and calcium, as well as nickel-based products. The company also produces specialty chemicals and materials from barium, calcium, iron, manganese, potassium, rare earths, stainless steel, zinc, and zirconium. It serves aerospace, hard metal tools, appliance, rubber, automotive, ceramics, paints and ink, catalysts, electronics, petrochemicals, stainless steel, magnetic media, and rechargeable battery chemicals industries, as well as other manufacturers using specialty chemicals. OM Group is headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #14 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:49am » |
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I love sayin 'goin to hell in a rust bucket' but have NO IDEA where it started or why or it's real meaning. Would it be better to go in a shiney chrome bucket....or pink one with flowers maybe ? Plastic bucket family Pam
I spelled the word 'in' wrong......my wierd mood today is showing !!! Sheesh..............
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 12:05pm » |
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Re: OMG
« Reply #16 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 1:17pm » |
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on Aug 7th, 2005, 10:37pm, cootie wrote:| Oh My Gosh..........G wording Pam |
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Sorry, forgot about that one.
Sounds like you have had some strange experiences with people way out on a limb Pam.
And, Frank, I happen to like "Holy Shit."
Anyone seen Constantine? Or how about The Prophecy?
Casey, who believes in something other than what can be explained, but is all for personal responsibility, and science (to a certain extent).
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 1:36pm » |
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hmmm. Nani's post got me to thinking. (when I do that my head hurts)
Remember the place in the bible where Jesus casts out the devil in some poor slob who appears to be possessed?
Cluster headaches, maybe? hmmm. 
I am Catholic and I refuse to add anymore to this thread.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 8:00pm » |
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on Aug 8th, 2005, 1:36pm, Linda_Howell wrote:
hmmm. Nani's post got me to thinking. (when I do that my head hurts)
Remember the place in the bible where Jesus casts out the devil in some poor slob who appears to be possessed?
Cluster headaches, maybe? hmmm.
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Actually, Jesus casts out many demons in the Gospels. For instance, Jesus casts a demon out of a child who goes into fits and periodically throws himself into a fire. Much Biblical scholarship over the past century or so has decided to view many of those things attributed to demons in the Bible as medical conditions, such as Epilepsy. I think it is completely legitimate to attribute some of these phenomonea to medical conditions, that Jesus is said to have subsequently healed. In the Ancient Near East, it seems very likely to me that conditions that people just did not understand would be attributed to spiritual forces. In that culture, I imagine that something like CH would be seen as demonic in origin.
This, however, does not explain away the New Testament's affirmation of the spiritual. Though many of these instances can be attributed to medical conditions, it does not explain instances in which demons speak to Jesus or his disciples.
I always find it interesting how all of our conclusions are revised by new discoveries, so that some knowledge that once was considered incontrovertable is now or will be viewed as rubbish.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #19 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 10:15pm » |
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This thread reminds me of an ABC News PrimeTime Live show I saw a few weeks ago about "John of God", a healer in remote central Brazil. They couldn't expose him as a quack. They left the impression that he really is a healer and they don't know how he does it. Here's the story:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Primetime/story?id=939529&page=1
During his "treatment" he takes four-inch gauze-tipped steel forceps, dips them in a solution he calls "holy water," and shoves the forceps all the way up a patient's nostril and twists them violently.
After the show, I sent this email to PrimeTime Live:
Thanks for your PrimeTime Live show about "John of God" in Brazil. The one thing you should have done but didn't do was get a sample of the liquid in the glass that he soaked the gauze in the forceps in before he twisted it around in the nasal passage. I'm sure it contained a very strong dose of Ayahuasca.
Ayahuasca is a drink famous in the Amazon. Used by many tribes for visionary, healing, and cleansing ceremonies, it's traditionally prepared a number of different ways. It always includes yage (Caapi). [The Banesteriopsis Caapi plant contains MAOI's (mono amide oxidase inhibitors).] Some tribes consume the yage alone, as it is by itself a powerful entheogen with an energizing visionary experience. The powerful Ayahuasca preparation, depending on the tribe preparing it, can also be prepared with a number of admixtures, which may include one or more of the following plants; Psychotria viridis, Diplopterys Cabrerana, Mimosa hostilis root bark, and others not mentioned here. These plants are rich in tryptamines which are normally dormant, but in the presence of MAOI's these compounds become active. This is a powerful visionary and spiritual brew used for thousands of years by the Shamans in Peru, Brazil and other South American countries for healing and spiritual purposes. They believe that the Ayahuasca drink heals your spirit, soul, mind, and body.
It has been scientifically proven that such hallucinogens affect the 5HT neuro receptors and the 5HT functions of the raphe nuclei in such a way that floods the brain with a powerful serotonergic effect that can heal a variety of serious medical problems. Here's another example of how hallucinogenic substances can heal a severe medical problem:
http://www.clusterbusters.com
One of the people who knows the most about hallucinogen's effects on neurology and brain chemistry is Franz Vollenweider. See
http://www.heffter.org/pages/bod/fxv.html and
http://www.neuroscience.unizh.ch/e/groups/vollen00.htm
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:13pm » |
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That is pretty cool. Did you get a response?
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One translation of the Christian Bibles says the devil does not CAUSE you to sin but TEMPTS you to sin. That is nwhere personal responsibility comes in.
It also comes in to play in the Visnu and Buddist teachings.
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on Aug 7th, 2005, 10:53pm, nani wrote:...if the devil is the one that causes one to sin.... where does personal responsibility come in?
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Nani, you answered your question yourself. We are given intelligence by our creator. We are free to choose, or claim, by God given intelligence, the path of the devil or the righteous.
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Re: OMG
« Reply #23 on: Aug 8th, 2005, 11:43pm » |
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Mind you, superstition can be used to good effect, too. There's an interesting place on the far north Queensland coast called the Bouncing Stones. You throw a small stone among the big ones and it bounces around like a glass marble on tiles. Looks great.
The place is also of particular significance to the Aboriginal women of the district.
Regrettably, many of the stones were being souveniered by visitors - after all, what's one stone - but as the place became so much more popular it really began to have an impact.
Fortunately, word got out about the Dreamtime story of removing the rocks and the bad luck that would befall anyone who did so. People from all over the world started returning their 'souveniers' variously to police stations or the local newspaper office, commonly with the most awful stories of things that had happened to them because of this curse, and these stones all found their way back to their proper place within the Dreaming.
Curse broken.
Truth is, it was four of us tour guides in the pub one evening dreamed up the story in the hope of protecting the place a bit more.
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on Aug 8th, 2005, 11:43pm, AussieBrian wrote:| Mind you, superstition can be used to good effect, too. Truth is, it was four of us tour guides in the pub one evening dreamed up the story in the hope of protecting the place a bit more. |
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