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I'm not making this up
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First there was an election for mayor of San Diego. It was a very close election. So instead of relying on the machines it went to a hand count.
A write-in candidate won...sort of, well no not really.
There were some ballots that had her name written in by the voter but they were voided as the bubble next to her name was not filled in. Who writes a name on a ballot if they don't want to vote for them? 
As a result the incumbant conservative mayor was able to be re-elected. Shortly after the election the Mayor of Sad Diego, Dick Murphy, was named the nations worst mayor. His response was to resign from office. Leaving the city in near bankruptcy.
The mayor and ex-judge did get to name his replacement. Instead of selecting the person who was second in the election he went for another conservative Michael Zucchet. So Zucchet became the unofficial "Mayor Interim" on Saturday.
One problem with this was that Zucchet was under prosecution for accepting campaign contributions in exchange for favors. The favor was to allow strip clubs to get rid of a "no-touch" policy.
Today on his first official day of office, "interim mayor" Zucchet was found guilty on all charges. Felons can't hold office so his butt is out the door. Sad Diego now has this headline to greet the nation:
Mayor guilty in San Diego bribery scandal
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-19-sandiego-mayor_x.htm
A second conservative councilman was also convicted on all charges.
Special elections for mayor were underway after Murphy announced he was resigning and will be costing 3 million dollars. Following this a run-off election will likely follow which will cost this near bankrupt city more money.
Meanwhile our republican representative in congress Randall "Duke" Cunningham was subpoenaed for documents relating to selling his house 900,000 dollars over value to a developer (amongst other things). He has stated he will not run for congress again. Gee thanks, "Duke"!
Final tally as of today for Sad Diego:
1 Mayor - resigned and under investigation
2 Councilmen - convicted
1 US Representative - subpoenaed and resigning
Can someone let the republican party know that we need some politicians here that can do cover ups not just screw with the ballots? No fair keeping them all to yourselves. This is embarassing.
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Re: I'm not making this up
« Reply #1 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 7:36am » |
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What happened to Donna Frye? She almost beat Murphy and caused an upset. She would be the most likely candidate for mayor but I guess since she is not "politically bound" she does not have the support that she need.
Or did she get caught doing something bad out there in Lakeside?
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Re: I'm not making this up
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Come next November the Galardi's, owners of the strip joints in San Deigo and Vegas, and their blackmail-bribery-pretty boy-hired help Malone will be on trial in Vegas for the same charges they were just convicted of in SD. Malone used to be a male model and then politician in Vegas until the graft and money overtook his common sense. There's some other politicians in Vegas going on trial for corruption along with Malone and the Galardi's.
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so exactly what does conservative mean?
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 8:22am » |
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 8:11am, vig wrote:so exactly what does conservative mean?
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You would have to say that they are "pro-business" ....
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 8:34am » |
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Politics and political offices have become great money makers for representatives and their political parties at every level of government. It's not a Republican vs. Democrat thing - it's a career politican and pure politics thing.
In what other career do you find job candidates willing to spend 10 to 20 times what their annual salaries will be to take the job?
The few that get caught are those that get too greedy, careless or sloppy. Either that of they rock the wrong boat. Unfortunately these are just the minority.
The rest just count on "The People's" apathy to continue to get away with it. 
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 9:09am » |
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 8:34am, burnt-toast wrote:
The rest just count on "The People's" apathy to continue to get away with it.
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You're right about that. People just don't want to "get involved". They might not be popular if they have an opinion. Gee whiz -- glad our founding fathers didn't have that attitude or we'd never have gotten out of those high taxes from King George! 
I've got a great idea -- why don't we all go to Boston, visit Jonny and have a big TEA PARTY!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 9:45am » |
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 9:09am, BarbaraD wrote:
You're right about that. People just don't want to "get involved". They might not be popular if they have an opinion. Gee whiz -- glad our founding fathers didn't have that attitude or we'd never have gotten out of those high taxes from King George!
I've got a great idea -- why don't we all go to Boston, visit Jonny and have a big TEA PARTY!!!!
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I'm of the belief that if The Founding Fathers were to return today to see what their "Government By The People - For The People" has become - they would jam a copy of the Constitution up each of our backsides and get workin' on The American Revolution II. 
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 10:06am » |
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 7:36am, marty wrote:
What happened to Donna Frye? She almost beat Murphy and caused an upset. She would be the most likely candidate for mayor but I guess since she is not "politically bound" she does not have the support that she need.
Or did she get caught doing something bad out there in Lakeside?
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Donna Frye was the write-in candidate. She is the probably the most honest one we have down in city hall.
For those who don't know her, she is a self-made businesswoman who runs a surf shop and is a councilwoman who represents the beach area(not Lakeside). She is the only one that had the nerve to ask questions in meetings. That's why she wasn't picked by ex-mayor Murphy.
The two who were convicted represented communities to the north and south of Donna Frye.
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Here's a pic of Donna Frye. I watched the meetings on TV. She slaps on these glasses and actually reads the proposals before the council.
Convict #1: "I move to vote"
Ex-Mayor Murphy:"Without objection--"
Donna: "Hold on a minute here...what is this?"
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 7:46am, BobG wrote:| Come next November the Galardi's, owners of the strip joints in San Deigo and Vegas, and their blackmail-bribery-pretty boy-hired help Malone will be on trial in Vegas for the same charges they were just convicted of in SD. Malone used to be a male model and then politician in Vegas until the graft and money overtook his common sense. There's some other politicians in Vegas going on trial for corruption along with Malone and the Galardi's. |
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That's good to hear, I thought he was going to skate. His lobbyist was also convicted today and will be getting some time in federal prison too. I guess Galardi did his dirty business out in Vegas and so he was charged there. It must be why the FBI was involved.
A third councilman would have gone to trial but he died before going to trial. What a big mess.
In Sad Diego, they do not run behind political parties, instead they will use the term "conservative" to appeal to the people who care about left/right politics. I just want the best person. I could care less what party they belong to.
There is another "conservative" no nonsense person running for mayor. He runs a Harley Davidson shop. Seems like a good guy but I will be going for Donna Frye. He does look like a biker with long hair in a pony tail. I hope he wins if she doesn't.
Most of the others running are slick willie carpet baggers IMO. Very rich and using their own money to get elected. If they win, they are sure to get more wealth at our expense. Clinton in Arkansas was nothing compared to what these guys have in store.
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 10:38am » |
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Those Galardi's, father and sons, also have a Cheetas strip joint in Vegas. They tried the same bribe and cheat scam here same as in SD. Got caught here too.
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 10:51am » |
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He gives strip clubs a bad name!
It must have taken some guts to actually propose removing the "no touch" policy on strip clubs. Yet our interim-mayor/convict did in an open council meeting.
Donna: "Wait a minute here..."
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 5:07pm » |
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I think that pro-conservative means that you speak about how morally wrong strip clubs are, and then you make rules so that you can touch hotties with fake titties.
I think pro-conservative means you preach about the sanctity of your 4th marriage, cheat on your spouse on saturday night, and go to church on sunday. While doing this, dont forget to talk about how happy you are that God is in your life.
I think pro-conservative means that you take lavish trips paid for by lobbyists and then bash Bill Clinton cause he got a hummer.
I think pro-conservative means that you pull the plug on your own father cause his kidneys are failing, but you fight to keep alive a woman whose family has decided to make the same decision you have made. In cases like these, dont forget to keep talking about God's wishes, and by all means, do NOT talk about the way you pulled the plug on your father. If someone brings that up, call them an anti-american terrorist lover.
I think pro-conservative means you lie about a woman's health, and say that she is able to follow a balloon with her eyes, but refuse to admit that she is FUCKING BLIND.
I think pro-conservative means you want to borrow 2 BILLION dollars per day to keep the government operating, but dont want to raise taxes.
I think pro- conservative means you talk about how terrific the economy is doing, but dont mention the national savings rate at 0%, or real wages declining, or the split between rich and poor getting bigger and bigger. Also, be sure to NOT MENTION college costs are up more than 11% for the 3rd straight year, but wages have been increasing at a max of 3%, sometimes only 1% over the last 4 years.
I think that pro-conservative means while talking about Iraq, you say "sometimes a few people will have to suffer for the good of the many", but when that cliche is repeated during a talk about stem cell research, drop it like a hot potato.
Did I miss any?
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oh goody... yet another pointless debarte about left v. right.
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 6:28pm » |
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Gonna get heat for that one, BMonee. Good work though. It's time the left learned how to combat the Republican noise machine. There's a book by that name that I have yet to get into. There is a key difference between the left and the far right. The left acknowledges that things are not black and white and leaves a tiny opening in debates. The far right says everything they say goes with zero room for compromise or thought. Everything they say is biblical. Liberals have been too easy.
Throughout my long and tedious life, conservative meant mean old men who were tight with a buck except for gung ho military spending. However, these guys knew enough to toss us a bone now and then. It went well until whatever you want to call this new group. Neo cons comes up now and then but conservatives aren't poking their nose in my bedroom or keeping track of my library usage. For me, all it takes is backing one of these inroads on the Bill of Rights to lose my vote, never mind bending over for drug companies.
I was on the right, to a degree, for many years until I was told that only conservative Republicans are on God's side.
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Re: I'm not making this up
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Gonna get heat for what? Everything i stated was based on real happenings. There is no opinion there.
No one can dispute the truth behind each of the definitions i made.
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Give 'em time. Give 'em time.
After all, Michael Moore's movie was all "staged."
If only 1% of it were true, Bush has no business being where he is guarding his family's income or perhaps in jail to boot.
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Yes!! the movie was all 'staged'.
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Just to chime in my meaningless opinion
It's this lame "Pro-Left and Pro-Right - gotta' be one or the other arguement that helps seperate "The People".
It's folks buying into this nonesense that end up leaving "The People" with ineffective leaders on both sides. It also permits elected officials to hide behind the nonesense they feed us to divert our attention from self-serving/corrupt activities.
I'm pushing for the "Pro-Common Sense" group to get a foot-hold and end all this wasteful "across the aisle" nonesense that we "The People" accept as leadership.
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Nicely said. It's old fashioned but see how good it sounds, kids?
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Burnt, i hear you. Its shameful the state this country has gotten into.
I feel the largest reason is the 'dumbing down' of our people. The news has been cancelled. There is no news anymore, strictly cheerleading for or against your political opinion. You cant get a real news broadcast anywhere in this country anymore.
That being said, the media puts out things that are completely false, but says they are true, so sheep believe them. For example, idiots like Rush Limbaugh says that marriage is so sanctimonious, if gay people get married they will ruin the whole thing, but he doesnt tell you he loves the sanctity of marriage SO much, he is on his 5th one.
People like a sexy story as opposed to news. Thats why CNN, Fox, MSNBC and all the rest have 2 weeks of "runaway bride', or 2 weeks of Michael Jackson, or 3 weeks of the Popapalooza. People would rather watch the outside of the vatican while people are having meetings inside than hear news about our Boys in Iraq. People would rather hear about some bimbo that got cold feet before her wedding than hear about education, or immigration, or senate bills. Its a true shame, and very upsetting.
Howcome we spend more energy, time and focus on capturing Saddam than we spend killing Osama Bin Laden? Howcome I am the only American that wants to never rest for 1 second, and commit whatever resources are needed to kill osama bin laden as the FIRST and FOREMOST priority.
I remember back in 2001, Bush said that too, but then his actions differed greatly from his words.
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My question is what are we doing about it?
I regularly attend Local Government meetings and publish letters in my local newspaper to inform residents in my community of the activities of our local leaders.
I called and had my State Senator meet with me in my home.
I have met with my State Reps. to personally discuss key issues.
I have had numerous meetings with the Governor's
office and even managed to call a meeting between the Deputy Governer, State Reps., State Sen., U.S. Reps., and U.S. Sen. and even forced local politicians to attend in an attmpt to resolve issues.
How did I do this - regularly calling them and sending letters to intelligently get them to review issues.
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Only a dozen people make time to regularly attend the local government meetings.
No matter how many people claim to be behind me on my actions (we've had hundreds at times) when it comes time to sit down with reps. face to face and force the issues most don't want to remain involved.
The result is - not enough people to worry about, won't lose an election over this so screw em'.
It always comes down to a few individuals with the guts to stand up and be counted. That number has to increase to massive proportions to force change - Not just for a march but for a long term effort to resolve problems that have gotten terribly out of control.
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on Jul 19th, 2005, 8:48pm, burnt-toast wrote:My question is what are we doing about it?
I regularly attend Local Government meetings and publish letters in my local newspaper to inform residents in my community of the activities of our local leaders.
I called and had my State Senator meet with me in my home.
I have met with my State Reps. to personally discuss key issues.
I have had numerous meetings with the Governor's
office and even managed to call a meeting between the Deputy Governer, State Reps., State Sen., U.S. Reps., and U.S. Sen. and even forced local politicians to attend in an attmpt to resolve issues.
How did I do this - regularly calling them and sending letters to intelligently get them to review issues.
Some things that are consistent -
Only a dozen people make time to regularly attend the local government meetings.
No matter how many people claim to be behind me on my actions (we've had hundreds at times) when it comes time to sit down with reps. face to face and force the issues most don't want to remain involved.
The result is - not enough people to worry about, won't loose an election over this so screw em'.
It always comes down to a few individuals with the guts to stand up and be counted. That number has to increase to massive proportions to force change - Not just for a march but for a long term effort to resolve problems that have gotten terribly out of control.
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Burnt, you just said a mouth full... and it makes more sense than you know. After a while you get tired of standing there all by your lonesome with everyone that's "behind" you telling you how much they "appreciate" all you're doing...... yeah right! It's gonna take more than one or two standing up talking to get things done.
Occasionally we pick a fight we CAN win and it's great to see it happen. A few years back our city council was going to close three of our railroad crossings (which would have essentially closed our town). Everyone ran to my office yelling "do something", so I wrote an editorial for the newpaper and lo and behold, the whole darn town got behind me (I write good editorials) and we got something done. The RR crossings stayed open and we got a new mayor (by 8 votes and he didn't get his kickback from the RR). That one was worth the effort. But too many times the fight is over before it starts. That's the sad part.
I see kids graduating from college that don't even know who their state or fed reps or senators are or for that matter who is president. Where HAVE they been????
Maybe that's why I've got CH now -- just been kicked in the head too many times.
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Your CH theory may be right.
I'm tired of folks complaining privately but choosing to do nothing.
If the majority of people who are fed up would get off their couches and take a few minutes to write or call their elected "employees" about important issues we would see positive change.
"The People" do not win or lose elections - only individual candidates and political parties do. Our responsibilities do not end with our vote. What we do in between our vote if far more important that who got elected.
Representatives must represent ALL of "The People" not just those they choose to represent. Our obligation is to make sure they are frequently and loudly reminded of that fact.
Ok, I'm done hijacking Topical's post but this is precisely the type of government activities that "The People" are obligated to stop by getting involved early.
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