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Ought to be interesting politics, Time for Bush to use that political capital he bragged about, if not he's a lame duck.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #1 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 7:58pm » |
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on Jul 1st, 2005, 7:43pm, cazman wrote:| yeah your right he is lame duck there for he should be shot |
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You would be surprised who monitors this site, Bro.
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doesnt take much to bring them out of the woodwork does it? My point being less than an hour after her announcement Kennedy is already complaining about her replacement even though one hasn't been named. This is a test for Bush that he can't afford to lose. The liberial democrats are going to try to block any person he nominates, its time he steps up to the bat and put someone in there who will stand up for the constitution and not bow to liberal pressure.
It will be fun to watch the rocks fall though, gona see alot of screaming dems lose their cool and come unglued on this topic.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #3 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:03pm » |
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on Jul 1st, 2005, 8:32pm, maffumatt wrote:| My point being less than an hour after her announcement Kennedy is already complaining about her replacement even though one hasn't been named. . |
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Do you mean Fatboy?
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yes that fat boy
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #5 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:23pm » |
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Where else can you drown a chick and serve your country?
This fat MF'er should have gone his brothers route!!
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #6 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:28pm » |
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same place a man who hit the slopes (cocaine) and got a DWI can become president
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Re: supreme court
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on Jul 1st, 2005, 9:28pm, E-Double wrote:| same place a man who hit the slopes (cocaine) and got a DWI can become president |
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I guess that the same as killing a young lady?
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:35pm » |
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not at all but it shows just the same that either those who vote do not care baout some people's past indiscretions, are too ignorant or that people can just make it in life based upon a name
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #9 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:41pm » |
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on Jul 1st, 2005, 9:35pm, E-Double wrote:| not at all but it shows just the same that either those who vote do not care baout some people's past indiscretions, are too ignorant or that people can just make it in life based upon a name |
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Thats why I dont vote.....they all suck.
Please save your "You cant complain if you dont vote"
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #10 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:44pm » |
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You can complain all ya want but those who are supposed to care won't hear ya.
There have been one or two local elections that I did not participate in because of that reason.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #11 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:47pm » |
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When it comes to pick who will hurt you the least its pretty damn sad.....I think you will agree, Bro
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 9:49pm » |
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It definitely sucks when many people vote based upon not who is the better potential leader but who is the lesser evil...
A shame but seems to be the reality these days
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #13 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 10:38pm » |
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Just to set the record straight, the liberals or democrats or whatever you want to call them have passed over 90% of all nominees Bush has sent up there.
I really dont want to talk politics, but maybe you should compare that to the amount of declines that the republican congress did for Mr Clinton. It was over 40 people for just the 9th circuit alone.
Funny thing is: I didnt hear the republicans whining about it back then.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #14 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 10:40pm » |
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Hey, obviously people dont vote based on smarts. Just look at Marion Barry. The dude smoked crack on camera and got re-elected.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #15 on: Jul 1st, 2005, 11:03pm » |
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When politics and politicians play such a huge role in determining who doles out decision from the hightest court in the land - Expect politics to replace justice regardless of who picks em'
There's no such thing as liberal's law or conservative's law - This is just what the Sheeple in America accept as justice.
And Jonny's right - we pick our representatives (employees) based on who we think will do the least harm. The real problem is that when these bastards screw us we excuse this as politics.
Both sides of this broken political system screw us to benefit folks that pad their pockets and fill up their party's war chests. "The People" have become a joke because we sit back like a bunch of scared lambs instead of collectively standing up and refusing to accept any more of this crap.
If The Founding Father's came back and saw how far "The People" have let their "Government By The People - For The People" degrade, They would stick their quill pens in our asses and return to England.
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on Jul 1st, 2005, 11:03pm, burnt-toast wrote:
There's no such thing as liberal's law or conservative's law - This is just what the Sheeple in America accept as justice.
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Tell that to the people that are going to lose their homes in Conn. Pay attention to the vote 5/4
The 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #17 on: Jul 2nd, 2005, 2:59am » |
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I'm already worn out from the cable news on this. Reading about California kidnappings and entertainer criminals is enough and easier on my psyche.
Never fear. You can depend on the Bush crowd to come up with someone who thinks life in the 13th century was progressive. It's all abortion and nothing but. It's the elephant in the room every time.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #18 on: Jul 2nd, 2005, 5:37am » |
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Guys, picture this: president Schwarzenegger! Now that would be scary future, eh?
I read once that some fourtune teller is certain that he'll be America's president in future. I laughed about 10 minutes after reading about that. I did hear that his popularity is down, so we'll see.
Then again the same guy was sure that Nicole Kidman would get another oscar from Cold Mountain and she wasn't even nominated... 
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #19 on: Jul 2nd, 2005, 8:54am » |
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Her dissent in the Kelo eminent domain case wll be a lasting legacy for O’Conner. People will quote her warnings for a long time. EDED (eminent domain for economic development) gives adsvantage to the wealthy and influential over the homeowner and small business person.
We are being told this is a “liberal vs. conservative” thing, mostly by conservatives. But I don’t know any liberals who like the Kelo decision. I don’t know any conbservatibes who like it either. Conservatives believe in property rights. Liberals stand up for the little guy. So who does like it? Big business and technocrats (by technocrats I mean folks who work in municipal planning and economic development) and the technocrats like the “option” but warn that a local government will use EDED at their peril....without massive popular support for the project they use it for, the city council will find themselves unelected in short order.
And other popular misconception: this is only about municipal governemnts pushing little people around. I think the biggest threat comes from the state and federal governments, who have much less election backlash to fear, pushing little people around. The feds could use EDED in Scranton, Pa., for example, and feel no repercussions in Pittsburgh. The Scranton City Council knows, or should, they would be out on thier ear next Novemeber, so they don’t try it. The feds or state don’t care if the entire city council opposes thier EDED plan....their decisions trump local government.
Kelo v. New London is government interference at its worst, and corporate welfare at its worst, all wrapped up like a birthday present for WalMart. Ain’t nothing :”liberal” about it, and the judges who concurred aren’t liberals, conservatives or whatever...they are corporatists, and they aren’t on my side.
Check out the rant from this crackpot:
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Re: supreme court
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mafumatt Quote:Tell that to the people that are going to lose their homes in Conn. Pay attention to the vote 5/4
The 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas. Quote:
Burnt-Toast actually said Quote:When politics and politicians play such a huge role in determining who doles out decision from the hightest court in the land - Expect politics to replace justice regardless of who picks em'
There's no such thing as liberal's law or conservative's law - This is just what the Sheeple in America accept as justice.
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If you're gonna quote me don't leave out the information that establishes the meanings of my post just to make some kind of statement.
It's simple, you get political decisions, not justice when you let politicians and politics into the legal system.
Even simpler - the sheep we call "The People" in this country are guilty of accepting political attacks on our rights as justice.
I have been very much aware of this Supreme Court decision - within hours of it being handed down. Check posts on Subjects Unbelieveable? and 1st Eminend Domain Casualty After Ruling.
To clarify again - Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Souter, and Kennedy - (2 Liberal, 2 Conservative and 1 Moderate) affirmed this decision. Justices O'Connor, Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas Stevens (3 conservative, 1 conservative/moderate/liberal) dissented - This decision was entirely political and came from a mixed bag of Justices.
I have written letters and called U.S. Senators/Reps. and State Senators/Reps. demaning the resignations of the 5 affirming Justices/demanding their help in reversing this decision. I have also demanded that my State officials pass legislation to put up an immediate roadblock to these communistic and illegal takings in my state. Have also been in contact with The Institute for Justice and the Castle Coalition to find out what mass efforts are under way to oppose this decison.
My frustration is that there isn't massive outrage from "The People" over a decion that undermines the very basis on which our Founding Fathers defined a Free Republic - "The Right To Own and Protect Property". The time to act is now but as ususal all I hear is the usual whimpering and whining from folks doing nothing.
Don't fret too much Charlie - The media isn't stumbling over itself to give appropriate covererage to this step we've taken into Communism. After all it doen't have the drama of a missing girl in Aruba. I'm sure that there won't be any coverage on this theft of our rights next week.
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on Jul 2nd, 2005, 9:09am, burnt-toast wrote:mafumatt
Tell that to the people that are going to lose their homes in Conn. Pay attention to the vote 5/4
The 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.
Burnt-Toast actually said
When politics and politicians play such a huge role in determining who doles out decision from the hightest court in the land - Expect politics to replace justice regardless of who picks em'
There's no such thing as liberal's law or conservative's law - This is just what the Sheeple in America accept as justice.
If you're gonna quote me don't leave out the information that establishes the meanings of my post just to make some kind of statement.
It's simple, you get political decisions, not justice when you let politicians and politics into the legal system.
Even simpler - the sheep we call "The People" in this country are guilty of accepting political attacks on our rights as justice.
I have been very much aware of this Supreme Court decision - within hours of it being handed down. Check posts on Subjects Unbelieveable? and 1st Eminend Domain Casualty After Ruling.
To clarify again - Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Souter, and Kennedy - (2 Liberal, 2 Conservative and 1 Moderate) affirmed this decision. Justices O'Connor, Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas Stevens (3 conservative, 1 conservative/moderate/liberal) dissented - This decision was entirely political and came from a mixed bag of Justices.
I have written letters and called U.S. Senators/Reps. and State Senators/Reps. demaning the resignations of the 5 affirming Justices/demanding their help in reversing this decision. I have also demanded that my State officials pass legislation to put up an immediate roadblock to these communistic and illegal takings in my state. Have also been in contact with The Institute for Justice and the Castle Coalition to find out what mass efforts are under way to oppose this decison.
My frustration is that there isn't massive outrage from "The People" over a decion that undermines the very basis on which our Founding Fathers defined a Free Republic - "The Right To Own and Protect Property". The time to act is now but as ususal all I hear is the usual whimpering and whining from folks doing nothing.
Don't fret too much Charlie - The media isn't stumbling over itself to give appropriate covererage to this step we've taken into Communism. After all it doen't have the drama of a missing girl in Aruba. I'm sure that there won't be any coverage on this theft of our rights next week.
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Finealy someone who is capeable of doing some research and back up what they say with facts. I stand corrected.
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Re: supreme court
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No need to stand corrected. Just take a stand against the perverse destruction of our Constitution and individual rights in this country.
"The People" can't continue to vote and smugly take satisfaction in saying they've done their duty. Our duty begins when it's time to remind so-called representatives (our employees) that they work for us - not special interests and clearly not for themselves.
The roles of "The Government" and "The People" have been reversed. The question is what are "The People" doing about it?
OK, no more Soap Boxin'.
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Re: supreme court
« Reply #23 on: Jul 2nd, 2005, 10:37am » |
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on Jul 2nd, 2005, 10:06am, burnt-toast wrote:
No need to stand corrected. Just take a stand against the perverse destruction of our Constitution and individual rights in this country.
"The People" can't continue to vote and smugly take satisfaction in saying they've done their duty. Our duty begins when it's time to remind so-called representatives (our employees) that they work for us - not special interests and clearly not for themselves.
The roles of "The Government" and "The People" have been reversed. The question is what are "The People" doing about it?
OK, no more Soap Boxin'.
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 2nd, 2005, 11:33am » |
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Weighing in on this topic which has my head spinning ala The Exorcist it seems clear that the Supreme Court has been compromised. I'm not sure how they 'got em ' but clearly some powerful group (likely foreign) has succeeded in undoing the most basic right in our representative democracy which is the right to property, ownership. As the country unravels and wherefore in no time flat everyone will know someone who has been railroaded with this disgusting power grab we can mark our calendars as to when the final nail was in the coffin.
Though it has been argued convincingly that there is no such thing as property ownership in the US and hasn't been since property taxes came into existence. If something can be forcibly taken from you because you didn't pay a stipend to the government then, well, it's really not yours. You can just use it so long as you pay for it like some kind of priviledged lease.
Note that property consists of your person as well and has been incrementally broken down with laws (unconstitutional of course) limiting what you can and can't do to/with your body.
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