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Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« on: May 16th, 2005, 9:07am » |
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http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-05-15-airport-xray-bottomstrip_ x.htm
I'm particularly embarassed by this remark from the homeland security director:
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Senate subcommittee last month that he wants to employ the technology and doesn't want an "endless debate" over privacy issues.
In other words continue trashing the Constitution and screw you because I'm in power and I want this.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #1 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:10am » |
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Hmmm and I thought those guys from the CIA were just nice and I wondered why I had a pain in my neck...
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #2 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:12am » |
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Talking about big brother...
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #3 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:42am » |
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If they have one of those at the Philadelphia Int'l Airport or the Sarasota-Bradenton Airport next month, I'm literally going to throw a fit. They're going to have to arrest me before I would go into something like that!
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #4 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:44am » |
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Let us know which jail you'll be at we'll come visit ya Liz! But hey, it's a 'free' country.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #5 on: May 16th, 2005, 1:19pm » |
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Quote:| Backscatter technology has been waiting on the sidelines for nearly four years |
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Oh really? These guys are killin'me. So glad they told us before giving it a whirl.... Right.
Quote:| But Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Senate subcommittee last month that he wants to employ the technology and doesn't want an "endless debate" over privacy issues |
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God forbid. Don't want messy, inconvenient things like Congressional oversight or the Bill of Rights to get in the way. 
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #6 on: May 16th, 2005, 1:40pm » |
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Where can I get an application to operate one of these machines for a living? 
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #7 on: May 16th, 2005, 2:07pm » |
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You might want to think about that Pat..
Do you REALLY want to see these guys up close and personal?!!! 
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #8 on: May 16th, 2005, 2:08pm » |
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Quote:| The $100,000 machines bounce low-radiation X-rays off a person's skin to produce photo-like computer images of metal, plastic and organic materials hidden under clothes, says American Science and Engineering. The TSA is testing its BodySearch machine. |
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Thank goodness it's a "safe" amount of radiation.
If you don't have anything to hide from the government, then there shouldn't be any problem.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #9 on: May 16th, 2005, 2:55pm » |
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Actually it's simpler than that. It works by making us glow in the dark. Martha Stewart was likely one of the first victims. No thanks. I don't want to see the X-rays.
They better send my scans to my Sawbones. I'll feel better if it's financed that way and for those Republican bean counters....at least when it comes to you and me.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #10 on: May 16th, 2005, 4:27pm » |
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Probably not as bad as you may think.
Two lines. One for the chicas and one for the hombres.
I'd feel allot more comfortable if they paid this much attention to the baggage and cargo
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #11 on: May 16th, 2005, 5:02pm » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 4:49pm, vig wrote:| Did anyone NOT realize this type of thing is what they were really voting for? |
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Hey...I didn't vote for it....
Not even for one second did THAT thought cross my mind!
I already got pulled out once for the search because I had a metal hairclip in my hair. They also cut the hell out of a box of stuff my grandparents were sending home with me just to get in and see all the chocolates and candy. bwahaha
Don't even get me started on the airports with my trip to Nashville!
They'll be catering to me this time though...I'm bringing the crutches (which will set off the detector) and quite possibly a wheelchair depending on the results of my surgery June 1! We'll seeeeeeeeee 
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #12 on: May 16th, 2005, 5:18pm » |
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Rats! Can't read the link. URL not found.......
So are you telling me that any travellers in USA will be irradiated before they fly???
And that there's SAFE radiation???
Please tell me I'm wrong..........
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #13 on: May 16th, 2005, 5:21pm » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 5:18pm, firebrix wrote:| Rats! Can't read the link. URL not found....... |
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Here ya go
Air travelers stripped bare with X-ray machine
By Thomas Frank, USA TODAY
The agency in charge of the nation's air security expects later this year to begin using a controversial X-ray machine that will show airport screeners a clear picture of what's under passengers' clothes — whether weapons or just bare skin.
The new system makes it easy to see possibly dangerous devices.
Rapiscan Systems
Screeners plan to test the "backscatter" machines at several U.S. airports, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) says. The refrigerator-sized machines are considered a breakthrough in scanning technology but have been labeled "a virtual strip search" by the American Civil Liberties Union. (Related story: Airports test 'futureworld' devices)
Security workers using the machines can see through clothes and peer at whatever may be hidden in undergarments, shirts or pants. The images also paint a revealing picture of a person's nude body.
The devices can potentially be used to screen hundreds of millions of air travelers each year, although TSA says more study is needed to determine how the devices may be used at U.S. airports. The agency declined to say when and where it expects to test the machines.
Backscatter technology has been waiting on the sidelines for nearly four years but seems poised now to move to the forefront of aviation security. The machines are already used by U.S. Customs agents at 12 airports to screen passengers suspected of carrying drugs. They're also getting a test run at a terminal in London Heathrow Airport, the first major airport to use them.
The ACLU says the scanners invade personal privacy. "This leads directly to a surveillance society," says Barry Steinhardt, who runs the group's technology program.
But Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a Senate subcommittee last month that he wants to employ the technology and doesn't want an "endless debate" over privacy issues.
Security consultant Douglas Laird says the machines are essential to spot explosives, which aren't detected by metal detectors.
The $100,000 machines bounce low-radiation X-rays off a person's skin to produce photo-like computer images of metal, plastic and organic materials hidden under clothes, says American Science and Engineering. The TSA is testing its BodySearch machine.
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In radiation protection, no exposure is justified unless it produces a positive net benefit (International Commission on Radiological Protection [ICRP] 1991; National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements [NCRP] 1993). This philosophy is (or rather was) part of radiation protection regulations of all agencies in the United States.
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« Reply #15 on: May 16th, 2005, 7:55pm » |
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What about pregnant women 
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« Reply #16 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:18pm » |
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« Reply #17 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:22pm » |
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What a bunch of idiots. How mant thousands of dollars will a machine like that cost?
I got a pair of Xray glasses from an old Archie comic book for $5.95.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #18 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:24pm » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 8:22pm, don wrote:| What a bunch of idiots. How mant thousands of dollars will a machine like that cost? |
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Hmmmm
Edit to add....Did you know that when Don saw the photos of the huge pile of naked men at Abu Ghraib prison, he contacted his travel agent and tried like all hell to get a two week vacation there?
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #19 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:36pm » |
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Good grief......can you imagine the conversations the technicians have at dinner time or when out with the gang.......there gonna see it all.......and then some. And can you imagine the pics that could end up traveling around the net if they have onea them cell phones that take pics. Wonder what implants look like Pam 
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« Reply #20 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:36pm » |
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When these become ubiquitous across our homeland, there will be less stigma behind nudism - people will always feel naked, even when they are wearing clothes, so why bother with more fabric than you need?? I'm sure the Texas Taliban did not have that in mind when they went into the voting booth.
Wonder if they have to turn the juice up to 11 if someone is wearing layers ...
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #21 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:55pm » |
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Someone's been doing LOTS of homework since their days back in the '60s with black lights and white bras.
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Re: Gov't now using device to 'see the real you'
« Reply #22 on: May 16th, 2005, 10:07pm » |
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I really can't imagine a more boring job than to look at ugly fat people walk by all day. But why spend the money on all that expensive equipment? Make 'em strip! I'll bet this what's his name from HLS is getting some serious kickbacks. The National Enquirer wants to know.
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