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giffy76
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Why not Vicodin??
« on: May 16th, 2005, 7:00am » |
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I'v been taking Vicodin for 5 days now and have been pf except for Sat. morning and that's because I didn't take one before I went to bed. I take one at 9pm and another at 9am, and only a hint of a shadow every now and then. Can anyone give me a reason not to take this.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #1 on: May 16th, 2005, 7:29am » |
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The only reason not to take it would be the addiction factor. Your body will get used to the meds and may require higher doses. By taking it on a set time ever day you may at least develop a psychological dependency.
But if you feel that it is helping, then it is your decision. Vicodin, Fioracet (never knew how to spell that) etc, never touched my CH but I understand that many are taking Vicodin and alike.
Wishing you pain free days and nights.
Marty
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #2 on: May 16th, 2005, 7:39am » |
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The Vicodin can cause rebound headaches in most people. If it's working - go ahead. I take three extra strength Excedrin with a cup of coffee when I know one is going to hit. This sometimes aborts it, but if I do it too often the HAs get worse.
One thing about meds and CH -- it's a crap shoot and we all react differently.
Hugs BD
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Pain meds don't work, you need another doc. Sounds like he's given up on you. Its not stopping your Ch, your probably just ending your cycle.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #4 on: May 16th, 2005, 7:53am » |
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The Dr. had me on Depekote er and Ultram for the pain and that worked for a couple years but this cycle seams to be a little more harsh and that cocktail wasn't touching it, I had the Vicodin laying around from a knee injury so I figured what the hell and its been working so far.
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If vicodin worked gif I'd be the first to say go for it, but it doesn't. Try another preventative and abortive or o2.
Good news is I think your cycles ending by the sound of it 
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #7 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:16am » |
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I certainly hope it's ending. I need to drink some beer, thanks for the info. What do you think of the magic shrooms?
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #8 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:30am » |
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Shrooms.. 
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #9 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:36am » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 7:00am, giffy76 wrote:| Can anyone give me a reason not to take this. |
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Addiction, is that a good enough reason not to take it?
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #10 on: May 16th, 2005, 8:55am » |
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I think addiction is easier to fight than the demon, but like sean_c said My cycle may be ending and that's why it seams to be working so I'm going to get off the vicodin and see what happens
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Quote:your probably just ending your cycle.
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Or the pain is only being masked.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #12 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:12am » |
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Isn't that what we are trying to do "mask the pain"?
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on May 16th, 2005, 8:36am, thomas wrote:
Addiction, is that a good enough reason not to take it? |
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Exactly!!! Man, I love that stuff! Does nothing for your HA's though
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #14 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:24am » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 9:12am, giffy76 wrote:| Isn't that what we are trying to do "mask the pain"? |
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No, we are trying to "eliminate" the pain.
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Religion and sex are powerplays. Manipulate the people for the money they pay. Selling skin, selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards. Triptans cause rebounds. Learn it, believe it, live it. I use triptans as the absolute LAST RESORT when treating my CH.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #15 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:27am » |
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I remember when I first started getting these damn headaches, the Doc eventually wrote me a script for Lorcet 10/650. Which is basically the strongest form of vicodin. It didn't even touch my clusters. The only Narc that I've heard and experienced that would touch clusters are Fentanyl (Duragesic) & methadone (something about the NMDA properties of these drugs that help nerve pain, and hence relieve the pain generated from the trigeminal nerve) Both of these are heavy duty drugs and should only be used as a last resort. and of course they only mask the pain.
As for reasons for not taking it.
Large doses of acetaminophen (tylenol) are very dangerous. The lowest Vicodin has 500mg of acetaminophen and the max is 4 grams or 8 pills a day. Some Vicodin has as much as 750mg of acetaminophen in a single pill.
Also there is a strong possibility that you will become dependent and tolerant of the Vicodin, after taking it steadily for a few weeks. You will need larger doses to achieve the same effect & will get ill when you stop taking them and probably need to be weaned from the medication.
There is a very small chance (depending on family and medical history) that you could become completely addicted to the medication. Where you think of nothing else other then ways to get and maintain your supply of vicodin. Whether you need it for pain or not.
Last...doctors are not too keen on writing a script of vicodin for more then a few weeks, so more then likely...your Doc will cut you off of the med before the cluster cycle is done, or if you're chronic...you'll definitely have to look for other ways to relieve your pain.
As was mentioned try all the true & tried ways to fight the beast first.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #16 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:47am » |
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Eliminating the pain seems to be a never ending battle with these bastsards becuase something that worked last cycle isn't working this round, than I get pissed off and find something that "masks" the pain and wait for my cycle to end. It's the lesser of two evils, on one hand some meds aren't good for you and on the other these f----ing CHs aren't doing me any good
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #17 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:53am » |
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I would never razz anyone for their use of anything to stop (or yes...even mask) the pain of clusters.
If it works for you...more power to you. I wish I could find something that would work for me.
But it's good to be informed of the pros & cons of any medication before you begin to use it.
Good Luck Gif
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #18 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:55am » |
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I agree, it is a never ending battle, that is why we are here. THere are centuries of combined beast combat experience at your finger tips here. A wealth of knowledge and experience shared freely with compassion and understanding.
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Religion and sex are powerplays. Manipulate the people for the money they pay. Selling skin, selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards. Triptans cause rebounds. Learn it, believe it, live it. I use triptans as the absolute LAST RESORT when treating my CH.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #19 on: May 16th, 2005, 9:56am » |
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on May 16th, 2005, 9:53am, Jimmy_B wrote:I would never razz anyone for their use of anything to stop (or yes...even mask) the pain of clusters.
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I'm not razzing, he asked a question, I gave him my answer. If you still think I'm razzing him, see my post above.
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Religion and sex are powerplays. Manipulate the people for the money they pay. Selling skin, selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards. Triptans cause rebounds. Learn it, believe it, live it. I use triptans as the absolute LAST RESORT when treating my CH.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #20 on: May 16th, 2005, 10:01am » |
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I don't think of it as razzing, it seems to be a close knit family here and family offers constructive criticism, if majority rules that Vicodin can do more harm than good, I'm not going to take it
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It doesn't work gif, not even at high doses. Morphine doesn't work either. Believe us, we've been there.
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #22 on: May 16th, 2005, 10:14am » |
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At times I think I know more than my neuro. What Meds work the best for guys? script or no script
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I do the pred taper for a preventative which has its ups and downs. For an abortive I use Imitrex and o2 at 15 LPM. I also use about 6 ice gel packs to rub on my head. That usually kicks his ass, how about you?
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Re: Why not Vicodin??
« Reply #24 on: May 16th, 2005, 10:37am » |
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I do Depekote ER for prev. and I chew 50-150 mg of Ultram for abortive and that don't taste to good, it has worked in the past but not this time.
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