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The Pope is dead
« on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 6:32pm » |
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The Pope is dead
May him rest in peace
My symphaties to all the catolics
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #1 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 6:44pm » |
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"May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."~Song for Athene
 Very sad day...
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #2 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:17pm » |
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I'll give him this:
Not matter what your beliefs, the guy was consistent. That's refreshing to me anyway.
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Consistant? I think tenacious is a better description.
That man struck fear in the hearts of our less than peaceful global leaders.
The guy stuck to his guns.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #4 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:26pm » |
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My ship is without a Captain....
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #5 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:50pm » |
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No thing waters like rain.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #6 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 9:45pm » |
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Been wonderin....who takes his place ? How do they figure that and do they have a few to pick from.....wonder'd how they decided....or who did. Big feet to fill Pam
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The college of cardinals meet in conclave in the Sistine Chapel within 20 days after the death to ballot on a new Pope. After each ballot they, the ballots, are sewn together and burned. Special chemicles are used to produce white or black smoke. White smoke from the flue of the chapel indicates a new Pope has been chosen.
Any baptized Catholic male may be elected pope. Except Jonny.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #8 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:15pm » |
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Black smoke indicates that Don has been chosen pope 
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I think they do a background check.
I'm out.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #10 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:25pm » |
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so if we set someone on fire are they pope material....I know....depends on the color of the fire. Where there's smoke there's a pope Pam
PS: NOT makein fun of the pope jus fer yer information......jus so ya know...........
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #11 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:32pm » |
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on Apr 2nd, 2005, 10:08pm, don wrote:The college of cardinals meet in conclave in the Sistine Chapel within 20 days after the death to ballot on a new Pope. After each ballot they, the ballots, are sewn together and burned. Special chemicles are used to produce white or black smoke. White smoke from the flue of the chapel indicates a new Pope has been chosen.
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And Pope John PaullII chose all but three of the Cardinals who will be in conclave. I think the number of Cardinals meeting is 117 and a 2/3 majority is needed for election.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #12 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 11:51pm » |
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So long and thanks for all the fish
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #13 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:03am » |
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I was baptized catholic, and I went through all the sacraments on the path that I was following...through confirmation. I'm not married which comes next....nor am I dying (or never have been in imminent fear of death!), so I've never received last rites.
When I was younger, my future goal was to become a nun. I'm not kidding...I have it in a time capsule that I made at a retreat when I was in 6th grade! We were "required" to go to CCD until confirmation, which was in 6th grade in my church, but I continued to go until 9th grade.
I remember that the church was recruiting us young'uns to go to a pro-life march, and I had wanted to go just because it was through the church. My mom told me at the time that she wouldn't allow me to go and that someday when I was old enough to understand and make the decision for myself, then I could choose to go or not, but she wouldn't let me go then. I'm glad she didn't.
Over time, I left the church...then I'd go back...then sort of drift off again. This was mostly during college at Penn State. I attended a methodist church, and then with my choir I jumped around churches so much.
So there was one thing I was thinking about today (and why this rambling story has some sort of meaning...to me at least!) I don't agree with many "stances" the catholic church takes. I'm pro-choice; I think gay marriage is okay; I don't think being divorced sends you to the firey pit of hell; I'm for birth control, and on and on! These are all decisions that I made for myself as I grew up and looked inward to find my true beliefs.
However, through all of that...I remained Catholic. What strikes me as the greatest thing about Pope John Paul II was exactly what Don and a couple of others stated above. He was extremely tenacious until the end about keeping the traditions of the church. Of course, some views changed as very old traditions that did not make sense were eliminated once in awhile, but all in all, the Pope really stuck to the strong beliefs of the Catholic church.
I've always found great comfort that, despite how much this world changes every day, the church has been a place of strong structure and belief...it isn't going anywhere.
I'm sure some would disagree with what I wrote here, but that's one of the reasons I feel such great loss with the death of the Pope. I haven't connected strongly with the Catholic church in some time, but for one, Pope John Paul II was the pope for my entire lifetime, and it is like the loss of something I've felt strength and comfort in for my entire life.
Does anyone remember Bishop Fulton Sheen? I think it was a few years ago that he was canonized as a saint in the church. He actually was a member of my family. His brother was married to my great aunt. I know when my parents got married, he offered to perform the ceremonies for the wedding, but (and he understood this), my parents declined because everyone was concerned that with such a high figure doing the ceremony, the focus would drift from the wedding to being at a ceremony with such a man as Bishop Sheen!
Anyways...I digress... Whether or not I have ever agreed with the issues of the catholic church, today was a great loss. Pope John Paul II was right up there with the greatest spiritual leaders that we've ever had in the history of this world.
Godspeed
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #14 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:33am » |
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Cheez, Liz. I thought you were Jewish.
To the first Polish Pope, and the man who brought us the PopeMobile.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #15 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:35am » |
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on Apr 3rd, 2005, 12:33am, Mr. Happy wrote:Cheez, Liz. I thought you were Jewish.
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LOL Randy....it's in my family, too. My uncle is from Israel, and we have this whole part of my family from Israel who are Jewish...so you could say it's also been a big part of my cultural soup. But I've been Catholic since birth...give or take a few pilgrimmages to check out other churches! 
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #16 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:24am » |
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I believe Pope John Paul II will go down in history as one of the greatest leaders the world has known. He had an amazing life.
R.I.P. John Paul.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #17 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:35am » |
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on Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:24am, BobG wrote:
No kidding. I wouldn't want his job.....but then again, I wouldn't want Anybody's job. I'm not much on Popes, but didn't the one before him have a limited warrenty....3 years or so? Old JP2 has been at the helm since Carter was president. That's a long time for a good man.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #18 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 8:20am » |
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Hopefully his predecessor will have a better grasp of reality.
I was raised Catholic so I have a right to say the following.
Some Legacy
Still
No possibility for women priests, Bishops or Cardinals
No to abortion under any circumatances
Inexcusbale coverup of priests wrongdoings
Tradition is good but change is inevitable.
May He Rest in Peace (this part is sincere)
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #19 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 9:34am » |
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on Apr 3rd, 2005, 5:35am, Mr. Happy wrote:| I'm not much on Popes, but didn't the one before him have a limited warrenty....3 years or so? |
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More like 33 days
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It is more than just tradition it is Catholic doctrine.
I dont agree with it but thats why I admired the guy. He did agree with it and wouldn't budge.
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Re: The Pope is dead
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Oh yeah. You can see him now and then...weekends, probably on the Catholic Channel. It's still called "Life Is Worth Living." Everybody watched him in the 50s scribble on his blackboard and get chalk all over this clothes. My kind of guy.
I still watch him when I find him.
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Come to think of it ....ALL of them are.
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Re: The Pope is dead
« Reply #23 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 4:12pm » |
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on Apr 3rd, 2005, 3:14pm, don wrote:| Come to think of it ....ALL of them are. |
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I've seen two of them.
One in Rome. It was playing Mary Had a Little Lamb and some guy was selling Gellato out of it.
One in the Dominican Republic playing Tijuana Taxi and selling Coco Frio.
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