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How secure does this make you feel?
« on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 2:39am » |
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I just got back from the second trip business trip this year, and when I got home, discovered that I had inadvertently packed my full-sized Leatherman Wave tool in my bag. This tool has a rather lethal 2.25” blade, a 2.5” serrated blade, a very sharp 2.5” saw, is make of solid steel, and weighs a good ½ pound (at least). This tool has been in my carry-on bag since I came back from Utah way back in November, so it’s made at least 2 round trips to various places since then.
Would somebody please tell me HOW THE F*^K was I allowed to travel on no less than 4 commercial flights without so much as a blink from TSA? I have lost all faith in the idiots who are screening our passengers. Jesus.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #1 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 2:46am » |
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The last Time I flew they confiscated my nail clippers.
hmm. Maybe they thought you were cute???
Other than that I have no clue. Scarey though, huh?
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #2 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 3:59am » |
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I had on of those little military can openers (P-38 ) you get with your c rations. The small protrusion that opens the cans is about a half inch long at best. Bastards in Billings, Montana wouldn't let me carry it on the plane. I explained that I had been carrying this thing on my keychain for months of air travel and he was the first to ever say anything. I also told him I could shove an ink pen through his neck quicker and easier than to use that teeniny little piece of metal as a weapon. He let me keep my ink pen and took my can opener. Non common sense having non thinking for himself bastard.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #3 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 6:29am » |
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Hm, been asking this question since DavCon.
Took a Greyhound bus. No bag was searched, x-rayed, no dope sniffing dogs or nuttin. My bag could have been filled with plastique and no one would have known.
Are buses really a safer method of transpo over planes and trains?
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #4 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:29am » |
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Never really been asked about anything. ONly time was about my Trex...
My backpack went through the x-ray, and the 2 guards asked me what was in it. Once I explained what it was, they conferred and let me keep it.
However, this was not in North America, it was in Prague, Czech Republic. And those guys scared the crap out of me. Never been scared going through security in NA.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #5 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:40am » |
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Prior to receiving your immigrant green card it is required that you work for the TSA (Training sitizens Academy) for no less than six months.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #6 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:53am » |
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I remember after Sep 11 they took away the metal knives from first class but left the metal forks. I had always thought I would rather get stabbed than forked, lol. 
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #7 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:56am » |
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on Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:53am, john_d wrote:| I had always thought I would rather get stabbed than forked, lol. |
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And what about being spooned in the ass... Wow... that must hurt 
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #8 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:05am » |
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I just don't understand how they can miss this thing... not once, not twice, not three times... but at least 4 different times in different airports. You would think at least ONE of these maroons would have spotted it in my bag. This is way more dangerous than a box cutter. Dumbshits.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #9 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:07am » |
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They took away my laptop locking cable because it could be used to tie someone up. But they let me keep my charging unit with AC cord to wall and DC cord to laptop (each is approx. 3 feet long), LAN cable (9 feet) and external mouse (5 feet).
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #10 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:08am » |
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Hey Phil, good day to you.
You are right fubar. That's messed up.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #11 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:09am » |
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I think some people in this country have forgotten about 9/11/01. I know I havent and it makes me mad to hear stories like this. Its a scarry world sometimes.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #12 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:55am » |
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In May of 2002, I flew down to Florida and back on a couple of separate flights. I had my intramuscular syringes (1 inch needle) in my backpack the entire time because I actually forgot they were in there. I had kept them there while I was in school, etc, and I just forgot to take them out before the trip. When I realized they were in there, I was sitting at the gate before one of the flights...I actually pulled the syringe out while looking for something. I quickly shoved it back into my bag and thought...holy crap..can't believe they didn't stop me for THAT one!! It IS scary sometimes...
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #13 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 1:18pm » |
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Believe me all this "security" is all posturing. They check what they humanly can but a lot of stuff gets by. The fact is life is a gamble. Any terrorist worth his salt will get on the plane. You can sit at home and be safe and never ventrue out the door or just live. Hmmmm Greyhound buses the next haven for terrorists.......They never check anything there unless you go over the border. Then they might. 
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #14 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:42pm » |
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And all the time riding the scooter, they pull me over to check my papers. Licenese, insurance, and registration. Yea, Papers. Then they search for drugs or whatever. They get into the toolbag down near the ground on the front of the bike usually covered in dirt, and find a hammer. Then have the gaul to ask me why I carry a lethal weapon. Who is in charge in this country anyway?????
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #15 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:47pm » |
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The worst thing I saw was also the same time I managed to accidentally have the meds in my bag. They were randomly pulling people out of line for the plane and making them take off their shoes, open all their bags, etc etc. They pulled this like 80 some year old man out of line - and it took him like a half hour to get everything undone and then back together. I seriously wanted to cry. So our elder population are now the terrorists?? Sheesh...I never saw a guy look less harmless. I know we can't stereotype...but seriously...the guy was handicapped and looked like he had about 10 grandkids, all of which he spoiled greatly. They could have picked someone else!!!
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #16 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:47pm » |
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on Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:42pm, Biker wrote:| Who is in charge in this country anyway????? |
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well, they WERE elected, weren't they?
This doesn't actually surprise anybody does it?
When people voted for Bush, they knew it was his team that came up with the Patriot Act... wait til you see the sequel.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:32pm » |
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A couple months back the government paid multiple millions for the stealing and rummaging through checked baggage done by the "inspectors".
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #18 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:35pm » |
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on Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:32pm, Kevin_M wrote:A couple months back the government paid multiple millions for the stealing and rummaging through checked baggage done by the "inspectors".
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And that just reminded me of yet one more thing from the Florida trip. On the way back, I was going through either Tampa or Sarasota/Bradenton airports...probably Tampa because it is cheaper and I got my ticket last minute. Anyhow, I was bringing home this big box of stuff that my grandparents had for my parents.
My grandfather secured the box by tying it with the original sailing line from his 30 foot sailboat which he sold in 1980. When I got to check in, my grandfather was shocked (it was still pretty new) that they had to open the box and pull everything out. Well, he asked the girl if he could untie the line, and she said there was no time and cut it into about a billion pieces. I honestly thought he was going to cry.... That was not a good moment!
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #19 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 8:41pm » |
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Under Clintons rien he made it acceptible for small knives and box cutters to be brought on planes no questions asked, this is cause the metal detectors could not determine between nail clippers or knives......Old Bill didnt want to spend any cash on detectors that would.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #20 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 9:06pm » |
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Fu it doenst surprise me at all. I know the Leatherman well I own one! Love that thing!! They will take your nail clippers & your P-38 (I have one of those too ) but not a Leatherman!! Go figure! Another reason why I dont fly and I REFUSE to take a grayhound anywhere! If I cant drive to get where I wanna be I aint going!
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #21 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 10:51pm » |
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Took a tour bus up to Canada to a casino with my mom.....goin thru customs we had a few people get on the bus and talk to us all "asking" if anyone had alchohol, cigarettes or weapons. Everyone sat quietly stareing at them.....so they let us thru. On the way home customs boarded the buss again and "asked" if anyone had any achohol, cigarettes, weapons or money. Everyone kinda sat there rollin there eyes. I kept wantin to jump up yelling 'YES'.......hey was jus 'thinkin' to myself. Dumb questions with no answers Pam
So what we need are honest terrorists that will confess when asked........jus seem'd dumb they asked that cuz who the hell is gonna say YES anyhow ???? If it is that important I think more should be done. Oh yeah.....the bus driver kept falling asleep on the way there......LOVELY !!!!!
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #22 on: Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:42pm » |
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I live in a regional country town in the north west of Western Australia population about 5000.
Here you cant even get into the departure lounge to say goodnye to any one without going through rather strict security, everything has to be taken out of your pockets, steel capped safety footwear has to be removed and if anything is doubtfull they will hold it untill you return and leave the building.
Does make you feel a heck of a lot safer though.
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #23 on: Feb 4th, 2005, 1:44am » |
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Whoops....
Actually I feel completely safe. The airports here are different. They even checked see-through glass dolphin I once had SIX times!
Besides, my dad was always checked few extra times... he ALWAYS had coins or pen in his pockets!
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Re: How secure does this make you feel?
« Reply #24 on: Feb 4th, 2005, 4:29am » |
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on Feb 3rd, 2005, 7:47pm, Lizzie2 wrote:| I know we can't stereotype... |
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I know we've been there before, but why not? It wasn't grey haired old men or wheelchair bound old women that perpetrated 9/11, it was young Arabic men. If they have a problem with people looking at them cautiously, tough shit. Maybe if the Arabic world would take a stand against the terrorists, there might be fewer of them and then the rest of the world wouldn't be so distrusting of them.
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I never had any to begin with. Any time the government sticks it hands into anything they screw it up. That being said, I flew about once every 2 weeks for the first 6 months after 9/11. I wasn't scared to fly then and I'm not afraid to fly now.
You want someone to do a good job screening people - make the flight crews do the screening or make it a rule that at any given time a screener can be pulled off the line and put on a plane with the passengers they searched. People with something to lose if they screw up might just do a better job.
Just a thought.
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