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Hallucinogens and CHs
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Have any of you cluster-headache sufferers used hallucinogens before getting the headaches? I used LSD and magic mushrooms when I was younger quite a bit, and the year after I quit using those drugs, in 1978, I had my first cycle of cluster headaches (of course, they were not diagnosed as such until many years later). Since a study will be done on whether mushrooms or acid can break up a CH cycle, there does seem to be a link between CHs and hallucinogens. I wonder if having used the drugs previously set some type of seratonin flow out of whack, bringing on the CH cycles (they occur every couple of years) once I quit using those strong drugs. Of course, many CH sufferers never used hallucinogens previously, but I'd be interested to know, of those who did, whether their experiences mirror mine at all. Rgds. Andrew
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #1 on: Jan 10th, 2005, 1:06pm » |
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Never used any illegal drug, stronger then "Pot" and I have clusters....so either I'm one of the few or it blows that theory out of the water. or someone slipped some "blotter" in my drink when I wasn't looking. 
Also, I started my clusters when I was 14...about 2 to 3 years before I even tried "Pot".
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #2 on: Jan 10th, 2005, 1:19pm » |
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perhaps your use at the time was keeping them away, and when you stopped, CH proceeded.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #3 on: Jan 10th, 2005, 1:24pm » |
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My clusters started before my "experimental" years.
I doubt it there is a causative connection, otherwise you'd have seen a lot of oxygen tanks (instead of nitrous) at Grateful Dead shows.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #4 on: Jan 10th, 2005, 1:30pm » |
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on Jan 10th, 2005, 1:19pm, vig wrote:| perhaps your use at the time was keeping them away, and when you stopped, CH proceeded. |
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Good point!
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #5 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 1:11am » |
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Well, now I don't have to ask that question anymore!
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #6 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 7:12am » |
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on Jan 10th, 2005, 1:24pm, JJA wrote:My clusters started before my "experimental" years.
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me too, by 5 years or so
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #7 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 11:52am » |
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on Jan 11th, 2005, 7:12am, CC2004 wrote:
me too, by 5 years or so
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And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #8 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 12:01pm » |
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Hi Andrew! My CH started a year BEFORE I took hallucinogens. Janet
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #9 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 12:13pm » |
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on Jan 11th, 2005, 11:52am, aceserve wrote:
And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks. |
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In retrospect, I'd have to guess yes.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #10 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 12:47pm » |
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These personal histories on the use of hallucinogens and possible effects on CH cycles are interesting -- we're getting a jump on the Harvard study here! I apologize for raising the topic in two message boards, but thought it was being missed in the Harvard study board (where I first raised the topic) which hadn't been used in a while.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #11 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 1:06pm » |
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Have you been to http://www.clusterbusters.com yet?
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #12 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 1:12pm » |
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I used tons of acid before getting ch. I quit tripping and went off all drugs. About 4 years latter I got hit with cluster headaches for the first time and was chronic. I doubt if it is related.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #13 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 3:14pm » |
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on Jan 11th, 2005, 1:12pm, Karla wrote:| I used tons of acid before getting ch. I quit tripping and went off all drugs. About 4 years latter I got hit with cluster headaches for the first time and was chronic. I doubt if it is related. |
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Hi, and thanks for responding.
I am curious to know whether there is a higher proportion of those who used hallucinogens among CH people than among the general population. No way to find out unless a serious study is done, of course. Regards.
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #14 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 4:45pm » |
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on Jan 11th, 2005, 11:52am, aceserve wrote:
And after you started experimenting, did that delay or eliminate cycles which you believe you may normally have experienced otherwise? Thanks. |
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Re: Hallucinogens and CHs
« Reply #15 on: Jan 12th, 2005, 4:47am » |
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