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Memory Worsening
« on: Dec 8th, 2004, 3:59pm »
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I am losing more and more of my life.  My neuro and psychologist say it's normal to "forget things" when a person is under extreme pain and depression.  Problem is, I am not getting forgetful in the sense of mislaying my car keys or losing my glasses.  I am losing significant events.  One of the boys asked me about when Jane and I got married.  I couldn't remember a fuken thing.  I know I am married, (our marriage certificate is hanging on the wall in front of my desk) but I don't remember getting married.  This is just the latest and most disturbing loss.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:04pm »
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Are you on the dreaded Topamax?
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:04pm »
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on Dec 8th, 2004, 3:59pm, Gator wrote:
How could anyone forget this:
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Gator, You might be surprised by the responses you get.  I know plenty of guys that WISH they could forget they were married.  Not me BTW.  I know a guy still paying $2400/mo alimony going on year 16 with no end in sight.  You can bet he wishes he could forget that fateful day....
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:08pm »
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Lithium has fucked my memory some, but not enough to forget something like that.
 
See, I was married 3 months before you, after about six months ive had daily thoughts of suicide, I have them to this day. Grin
 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:11pm »
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That really sucks Gator! I have lost significant events now and then as well. I attribute my memory issues at least partially to the Neurontin I take (instead of Dopeymax). I also have had brain surgery, so some could come from that. It's scary. My Mom has Alzheimer's, so I'm a little afraid of that, too. I have resorted to writing stuff down, so I can keep up with my crazy life that has little routine. Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:41pm »
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Ditto. My wife calls me the "absent-minded professor." I'm forever forgetting stuff, and sometimes, major stuff! I don't know if it's because our lives are busier, the medications, age, diet, or a combination of all of those factors, but .... er.... lost my train of thought...
 
 
Anyway, you're not alone, Mike. If it's rather sudden and pronounced, it could be your medications. If it's not attributable to medications, then you might want to get some tests run to rule out any kind of ischemic incidents. (mild strokes; that sort of thing....)
 
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:42pm »
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While I was in depositions Monday, the lawyer kept asking me stuff and my standard answer was , "I just can't remember." I"ve forgotten so much since the onset of CH and all the meds.
 
Try post it notes -- they work pretty good - if you stick them on your person somewhere.  
 
This morning I forgot to put clothes in the washer - put the water and soap in, but got to work and remembered I'd forgotten the damn clothes.  
 
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:50pm »
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The only experience I have had with this is after I had a car accident I forgot I had a brother for 3 days.  They kept telling me but I didn't remember him.  I also lost a lot of memories from the previous years.  I still don't remember a lot of stuff.  What kind of meds are you on?  That has got to be so scary for you.  I will be watching for replies to this post.  I will be thinking of you!  
 
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 4:52pm »
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Gator,
First I want to say what a nice looking couple! Yea, what meds do you take? I know this is gonna sound really strange but my memory is better now and I'm doing the verapamil and the lithium combo. The only thing I can think of I was always in so much pain my brain never worked right? Go figure???
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 5:36pm »
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I did take Topamax way back in February.  Did tons of stuff:  All the OTC junk, Fioricet, Percoset, Demerol, Indomethacin, Prednisone, Depaokte, Verapamil, Lithium, Trileptal, Nortriptyline, Halcion, Zomig NS and Imitrex.  It seems there are others, but I don't remember what they were.  Currently, I am only using O2 and Imitrex Injections.  None of the prevents I have taken worked.  
 
Alheimers does run in the family, but the docs seem to think I am too young for that to be a factor.  Like I said, this is just the latest in an ever growing list of lost memories.  Yes, it is scary as hell as well as very upsetting.  I look at that picture and try hard to remember the day, but I can't.    
 
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 5:57pm »
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This may help.
 
hehehe, just kidding.
 
anybody know what movie that is from?
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 6:22pm »
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The anti-convulsants have done some of this to me, I think. Sometimes it takes me a minute to really get it that I don't have to worry about bumping into others here. It happens now and then. It's usually a relief though when I learn that I don't have to deal with them. Sad, I suppose.
 
Of course I'm 58 and as so often happens, I don't do well with recent stuff but things from 1955 get clearer all the time. Not all bad, I loved the 50s. No one had a better childhood.  
 
In short, whatsyername, you're not alone.  
 
Nice little picture too.  
 
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 6:55pm »
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My mind is a steel watcha ma call it!  laugh
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 8th, 2004, 7:20pm »
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My memory is shocking, I can't remember anything short term, I have to write everything down. My long term memory is very good though. Scarily good according to my husband bless him!
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 6:47am »
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I'm with Charlie - long term memory is still pretty good, just the short term is the pitts. I lose words when I'm talking. I know the word, but just can't get it out. Mostly simple things like that.
 
But the drugs you've taken could be the culprit. The effects of them don't just go away when you quit taking them. Topamax is a really bad mind altering drug.  
 
Charlie, you're right - the 50s were a great time. And I remember most of them -- it's the 60s where I get confused. But they say if you CAN remember the 60s you weren't there!  Tongue
 
Gator hang in there. Use notes and try not to worry about it (yeah right!).  
 
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 8:00am »
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If you come up with the answer please forward it to me promptly.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 8:30am »
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Are you sleeping?  I once forgot where I lived after about a week of insomnia.  I'm not exaggerating. I could remember that I grew up in Pennsylvania; I knew I didn't live there anymore, but I just couldn't remember where I lived.  It came back to me after about 5 minutes, but really freaked me out.  
 
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 8:55am »
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Lack of sleep caused me some memory problems.  Once out of cycle, the memory came back.   The older you get, the better the long term memory, and the worse the short term memory.  Just a fact of life.  
 
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 10:30am »
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Yea, they're right about the sleep, and that's probably why I think my memory is better now, cause before meds I NEVER really slept. Gator, not to change the subject but you have been on alot of different meds in the past. Did they work for a short time and then just stop? So will my preventives do that too? I am doing the verapamil/ lithium combo and its working pretty good. I still get hit just not as often and not as hard.  
 
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 11:31am »
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ummm...what was the question?
 
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 11:41am »
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Mike, if it makes you feel any better, (which it probably doesn't, but what the hell...) I get people that I went to school with, mixed up with people I was in the Army with, mixed up with people I used to hang out with in Japan... I can't keep anything straight anymore. It's like seas of people moving in and out of my life, and sometimes it's like I see faces of people I think I know in all sorts of places, and other times, when I'm surrounded by people I know, I forget everyones' names.  Undecided
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on Dec 9th, 2004, 10:30am, becky8 wrote:
Yea, they're right about the sleep, and that's probably why I think my memory is better now, cause before meds I NEVER really slept. Gator, not to change the subject but you have been on alot of different meds in the past. Did they work for a short time and then just stop? So will my preventives do that too? I am doing the verapamil/ lithium combo and its working pretty good. I still get hit just not as often and not as hard.  
 
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Wendy, the meds just never did anything.  My doc thinks my liver metabolizes medications at a very fast rate and that is probably why I get few side effects and even less relief.  As far as will your meds stop working - who knows.  It's an individual thing.  Some people stay on the same meds for years.  Some people find that over time meds become less effective.  Even stranger is that meds that did not work in the past suddenly start working in the future.  This is such a screwed up disease.  
 
I know lack of sleep can be a brain killer and that may be part of it.  I'm sure all the high doses of so many medications is also a part of it.  It would seem that I am not alone in my suffering of the memory thing.  Still scares the hell out of me and quite frankly it's all I can do not to break down every time I look at that picture, because I do not remember the day.  I also don't remember turning my garage into a master bedroom.  I know I did, because I'm the only person that could have.  I know my 17 year old helped me, because he's the only one that would have.  I see the room, but I do not remember building it.  Much more where that came from.
 
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on Dec 8th, 2004, 4:08pm, Jonny wrote:

 
See, I was married 3 months before you, after about six months ive had daily thoughts of suicide, I have them to this day. Grin
 

 
 
 
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 9th, 2004, 4:10pm »
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Who are all you people...
 
 
...and WHY am I here?
 
 
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Sieves use my memory for a role model. bigcry
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