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« on: Nov 28th, 2004, 2:03pm »
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A 'trained' eye can accurately guess on which side you are getting hit on  ... Clusterheads tend to open the eye bigger on the unaffected side.
 
Has anyone else had a neuro tell you which side you were getting hit on ? Has anyone else ever heard this before or noticed it ?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 2:07pm »
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I haven't heard about that. I have met 4 neuros so far... you would think that one of them would have mentioned.  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 2:10pm »
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I had a 100% record in telling which side a clusterhead gets hit by looking at their eyes until I blew it last Saturday and got Sisyphus wrong!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 2:24pm »
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Wendy, your secret's out then, huh? I'm sure that's how you can tell ??? (right??)
 
I've met many neuros in my 16 yrs of being a clusterhead. Only Dr. Rozen mentioned this and accurately guessed which side I was getting slammed on.
 
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A 'trained' eye can accurately guess on which side you are getting hit on  ... Clusterheads tend to open the eye bigger on the unaffected side.

 
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 3:01pm »
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Is that only when in cycle or all the time?
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 3:47pm »
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My wife is good at it and can tell right away.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 3:50pm »
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I just noticed this TODAY!  that is so wierd my left eye is bigger than the right right now.  I am in cycle so I will be sure to try to notice when this cycle ends - which will be soon I HOPE!
 
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 5:04pm »
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Honestly! I tell truth!
 
Sadly with long term chronics it's often easy to tell as the eye can be actually lower. Not sure I've tried to guess with an episodic out of cycle, can't remember, but in cycle and if they've recently been hit either the pupil is more dilated, the eye is open wider, or the dead give-away...........it's bloodshot!
 
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 5:25pm »
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What about people that get hit on both sides? Or are you talking about someone guessing on which side one is getting hit more often?
 
Just asking because i'm getting hit on both sides (about 50-50) and i haven't noticed anything.
 
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 5:45pm »
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No idea as I haven't personally met a "both sider" yet. I would guess there was some effect but as it is balanced it might not show ??
 
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 5:58pm »
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My neuro could tell what side it was, even i could see it in the mirror, the right side was morse closed.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 6:02pm »
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My friend can tell she says my eyes look "sprung" my pupils dialate abnormally within 30 minutes I get hit. During a cycle, the white of my eyes rage from bloodshot to a yellow. I guess it is pretty obvious a co-worker asked me how my head was, I usually lie. She said never mind your eyes look like hell. So I suppose it doesnt have to nessesarily be a "trained" eye just an observant one.
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on Nov 28th, 2004, 5:45pm, pubgirl wrote:
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No idea as I haven't personally met a "both sider" yet. I would guess there was some effect but as it is balanced it might not show ??
 
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That was my guess as well. I don't know. I think Unsolved is a "both sider", that's why i asked.  
 
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Yes...I am a 'both sider'. I'm mainly getting hit on the right side latley. The right sided ones hurt more.  Cry
 
Yes...I do believe that Dr. Rozen could tell you which side your getting hit on more often. He did it to me.  
 
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 9:33pm »
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This thread makes sense to me.
 
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 9:41pm »
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I have a neice who can tell when I'm going to get hit.She says she can tell because my eye looks funky. I'm not sure what funky is, I can only see it get a little droopy.
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 28th, 2004, 11:37pm »
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One of the known side effects I think It is called miosis is   where one pupil gets larger than the other one.  I can't remember which it was that my neuro told me but I think the smaller pupil is the effected side.  Anyway she was dead right and I have read about this other places.
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 6:34am »
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yep---the eye droops a little.
 
I can tell right before Ramon gets hit - I'll know (if I'm paying attention) before he knows.    
 
The pupils.... and the drooping.... they change before ya'll feel a thing.
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 11:02am »
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Yep.  First time I saw a neuro he ordered an MRI because my hit side eye was open more than the other and he wanted to make sure there wasn't something else causing the eye to be like that.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 11:11am »
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oh for sure - cluster eyes are very easy to spot for the trained observer.  I'm betting most supporters here know well before their sufferer is going to get hit.  I can tell from BobP's picture page which side most people get hit on.
 
What's also interesting is the silent attack phenomenon - meaning, neurologically, a cluster attack is happening but no pain is felt.  This happens to my husband for the duration of his remission.  He goes into cycle every two years (2004 is a remission year) but, every day around 4 p.m., Mike gets the "cluster eyes" and they stay that way until about 4:45.  Like clockwork.  It freaked me out at first, but I know now that he can't even feel it so I don't bother reminding him that it's happening.
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 11:25am »
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Human faces are asymmetrical anyway, but yeah, my right eye is slightly larger than my left and I always get hit on the right side.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 4:55pm »
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Dr rozen had a 50% chance of guessing right, unless you look like one of those characters in Monsters Inc.  Those odds are far better than any odds you can get in Las Vegas.
 
Never heard that before but I do notice that even out-of-cycle, when I try to open both eyes as wide as possible, I get a strange mild warm feeling in my cluster-side eye?
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