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Veep Debate...
« on: Oct 5th, 2004, 10:13pm »
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Anybody watching Cheney/Edwards?
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 10:32pm »
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Been listening---sounds to me like my Cheney's taking the lad to school.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 11:00pm »
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Me thinks I will exit stage left on this one... I feel a debate of a different kind coming up... Politics bring out the beast in people............ ree
 
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 11:09pm »
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on Oct 5th, 2004, 10:13pm, vig wrote:
Anybody watching Cheney/Edwards?

 
I thought it was pretty good.  Cheney is very good speaker but I was surprised I didn't see more out of Edwards.  He seemed to repeat himself a lot.  
 
Was fun!  I haven't been this interested in politics in a loooooooooong time. Grin
 
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #4 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 11:11pm »
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I tried. I really tried.  
That Cheney fellow's a slick one. So is the other guy. They both kept saying each others facts and figures were entirely wrong. Politics in it's finest flower.
Didn't wait for the news team scoring and results. That would have ruined the moment.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 11:22pm »
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #7 on: Oct 5th, 2004, 11:30pm »
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Dick ran away with that one! Wink
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #8 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 12:29am »
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Watch it? Sorta.      
 
Couldn't really tell you who was better. Doesn't matter here.  
 
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 9:56am »
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I thought Cheney was somewhat better than Edwards  -  not a route, though.  Edwards was better on domestic issues, especially healthcare.
 
And why did Cheney suggest people visit www.factcheck.com to get the truth? Has he seen that site??
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:22am »
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In a political discussion a while back, someone commented on Bush reinstating the draft.  Here's a link to an article re the GOP defeating the democratic bill to reinstate the draft.
 
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004/1004/100604-draft .htm
 
BTW - Chaney mispoke, he meant www.factcheck.org not .com  .com is run by a rich left winger
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:29am »
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on Oct 6th, 2004, 10:22am, Bob P wrote:
BTW - Chaney mispoke, he meant www.factcheck.org not .com  .com is run by a rich left winger

 
yeah it's George Soros, currency speculator, country wrecker and W's sworn enemy.  ol' Cheney must have been rapping himself sternly across his bald head over that one.  Grin
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #12 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:30am »
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The VP took Edwards to school???He's been taking our money to fund a Vietnam just to line his own pockets with$$.I think before we vote we all need to go to school TongueDavid
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #13 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:32am »
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CHeney still has some serious explaining to do regarding Halliburton.  It's shameless that it still continues.
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Re: Veep Debate...
« Reply #14 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:41am »
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Let's put Halliburton to rest---it's a non-issue really and I'll point out these quickies for the short-attention-span-theatre folks:  
 
The Kerry/Edwards campaign likes to talk about the supposed "no-bid contracts" that Halliburton got in Iraq.  They insinuate that Dick Cheney greased the skids at the Defense Department so that he could line the pockets of his buddies at his former company.  That is false, and the Democrats know it.  Consider these facts:
 
    * The supposed "no-bid contracts" took no bids because Halliburton was the only company capable of providing the services needed at the time.  No other bids were taken because no other company could do the work.  The congress has passed specific laws that allow for the granting of no-bid contracts during emergencies.  Somehow Edwards forgot to mention this, and he forgot to mention Halliburton was also awarded no-bid contracts by the Clinton administration.  
 
    * Edwards and Kerry also imply that Dick Cheney is getting money from these Halliburton contracts.  The fact is that any money Cheney received from Halliburton was for work he performed before he ran for vice president.  The truth hurts, and Edwards was working very hard last night to avoid any pain.
 
Now, there are plenty of reasons not to vote Republican (more to not vote for a Democrat) but the Halliburton deal is just not one of them. Perhaps the people blinded with anti-Bush sentiment would have preferred a French company or those bunker-busting Germans to have the contract? How about we let the anti-American UN who stole the money in the Oil-for-Food program decide who is allowed to work and who not?  
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 10:49am »
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I'm not in the Kerry camp but this is still a conflict of interest.  It's an integrity issue for CHeney and he's never cleared himself.  Time will tell where CHeney goes to work after he's out of office.
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 11:02am »
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I certainly didn't feel like Cheney took anyone to school.  His whole persona to me bespeaks lies.
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It's an integrity issue for CHeney and he's never cleared himself.
And the same could be said for Kerry.  As co-chair of the POW-MIA committee he ignored evidence of POWs in order to ramrod a declaration that there were none.  High ranking members of the committee resigned in disgust the first year saying that it was obvious that the committee didn't care about POWs.  Their real purpose was to clear the way for trade with Viet Nam.  While a POW wife was testifying, she asked if she could ask Kerry a question.  His response was that he would ask the questions, she was only there to answer them.  Finally amid much arm waving his committee declared there were no POWs.
 
How does this relate to Chaney/Hiliburton?  Based on the committees findings trade was opened with Viet Nam and the first contract for $900 million plus went to a company CEOed by Karry's cousin!  Then again, this may just have been the communists way of thanking Kerry for helping them win the war.
 
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He's been taking our money to fund a Vietnam just to line his own pockets with$$.
Been waiting for this.  Kerry's been playing this Nam insinuation, anti-war game for a while now.  I hear the same crap from him that I did in the 70's.  Kerry is a traitor who will sell the US troops out at the drop of a hat if he thinks it will help him politically.
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 11:15am »
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on Oct 5th, 2004, 10:13pm, vig wrote:
Anybody watching Cheney/Edwards?

 
Damn Vig, You just had to go start some shit didn't ya?  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 11:31am »
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Edwards needs to drop the "Opie" persona and quit playing grab ass with Kerry.
 
Currently our country is being run by a Bush, a Dick, and a Colin.
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 11:38am »
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"Damn Vig, You just had to go start some shit didn't ya?"    
 
it was my turn....
 
That's the beauty of this country.  We get to have the open discussion and everybody gets to voice their opinions, right or wrong, and there's no fear of reprisals.
 
Sure, you can still make an ass of yourself in public, but you don't just disappear if you're against the 'King'.
 
And Bob's right.  Kerry's got major problems too.
It's a shame that our system works this way.
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« Reply #21 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 12:31pm »
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Perhaps the people blinded with anti-Bush sentiment would have preferred a French company or those bunker-busting Germans to have the contract?

 
Yes, I would much prefer the contract be funneled to the french owned islands for tax avoidance  Roll Eyes
 
Perhaps the VP's former employer would not have been the only chioce if we had not pissed off the entire planet and told our "allies" to not even bother to apply.  Shocked
 
Besides, the dems want to open up the Canadian drug pipe which should be plenty good reason for our uninsured, unemployed clusterheads to vote for a change?
 
Jmin - Agrees with Vig that your opinion counts, even if you are with blinded by the Bush rhetoric.
 
 
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« Reply #22 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 12:54pm »
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I love the way the neocons send us so-called intellectual elite to crank websites read stuff not worthy of young children.  
 
George Soros is far from a country wrecker. Neither is Warren Buffet, another billionaire who doesn't think much of Bush. The country wreckers occupy the White House and have done a bang up job. Health care, education, and John Ashcroft are all you need. I shudder to think of the devastation of four more years with no re-election worries will be like.  
 
GOP ads sanctioned by the White House are sending mailings to Christians in West Virginia stating that if you don't vote for George Bush, the Democrats will ban the bible. Stuff like this is why I had to leave the GOP.  
 
Distraction, distration, distration. They are masters at this. The world is not a cartoon. It needs rational critical thinkers. It would be nice to have a President who cracked a book now and then but he has to wait for them on tape. Reading isn't his forte, as he proudly admits.
 
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« Reply #23 on: Oct 6th, 2004, 1:19pm »
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     why was this leader hiding in a hole
      cause he was up to no good [BASTARD]
       i just hope we can get out
    these weapons can be  
       any where they had
      SOME, now they dont
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on Oct 6th, 2004, 1:19pm, eddie wrote:

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       i just hope we can get out
    these weapons can be  
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      SOME, now they dont
       

 
 
You can relax, Eddie.  
 
WASHINGTON Oct. 6, 2004 — Undercutting the Bush's administration's rationale for invading Iraq, the final report of the chief U.S. arms inspector concludes that Saddam Hussein did not vigorously pursue a program to develop weapons of mass destruction after international inspectors left Baghdad in 1998, according to lawmakers and others briefed on the report.
 
In drafts, weapons hunter Charles Duelfer concluded that Saddam's Iraq had no stockpiles of the banned weapons but said he found signs of idle programs that Saddam could have revived if international attention had waned.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20041006_981.html
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