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Alright weird question but here goes!!!!!
Alright I have noticed that sometimes when Im having shadows and I drink, I have to pretty much get wasted to keep from getting full blown CH's, basically out running them.
Any thoughts?
Oh, you have free reign on pouncing.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #1 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 2:06am » |
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Hi schmitty ...it's me again. Alcohaol is very often a trigger for episodics. I can pretty much drink all the time. But if I'm in a severe cycle...NO WAY. I spend the next several hours (and sometimes days) dancing and praying for death. 
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #2 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 2:09am » |
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i have tried this evasion tactic more times than i care to recall. usually, i was pretty fucked up by the time the bell tolled, but i don't recall ever really escaping the hit. I actually have a clear memory of me sitting at the bar at "rose n. thistle" with one eye looking eee-gooorish and my nose dripping and pretty much looking like all the other drunks (LOL). No one noticed (i don't think), but i remember the pain layered beneath the booze. It went away and i kept on drinking and somehow that was the deal then. Don't know when it changed - it just did. For me to do something like that now - NOT AN OPTION. I look back on those days and don't know how i did it. i read posts similar from dinosaur days so i know it ain't just me. I know that living with clusters is like a process. We all follow the yellow brick road. It's just that we are so few and far between that we can't all seem to grasp the same straw at the same time****
We'll tawk more when your out of the "get drunk quick stage" LOL
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #3 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 2:13am » |
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one beer and I'm SMACKED on the head with a hit.
ONE BEER.
So alcohol is out. plain and simple. Oh well.
(we're ALL better off if I don't drink, so there.)
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #4 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 3:27am » |
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Tom
While I am considered the bad guy here for going out drinking last night.
I can really relate to what you are saying. I started out fine but then the shadow started so I went to harder drinks and it did work for awhile but it did end up getting me in the end.
Sometimes though I think (with me anyways) I can revert it with a cigarette or a glass of wine, also on that note a glass of wine can trigger unless I have about 3 or 4 glasses.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #5 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 5:42am » |
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I have no problem with anyone having an occasional drink, even if they know it will bring on an attack - I've done it myself, though only with an Imigran jab in my grubby paw at the same time just in case.
I also know of many people who have found that drinking several drinks very quickly - eg. four pints of ice cold lager in two minutes was one I heard recently - can make a difference. This though is only when nothing else is available, and I suspect is more to do with volume and temperature.
However Dave, I cannot understand regular drinking in such circumstances. Even moreso when you say elsewhere that you don't want to take any medications - alcohol is a drug too, and I would think in these quantities and frequencies a rather more dangerous one. Suspect your doctor would be more willing to prescribe verapamil than whisky, but you could try....
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #6 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 5:51am » |
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Wine and Clusters?
Bleaugh.
Even though it isn't a trigger for me I would have probably puked. It's been 13 years since my last attack and about that long since I sat down with a can of wine. Beer: Different story.
I don't drink much now.....well I got pretty shitfaced in Nashville but that wasn't my fault. I just didn't want to be impolite and turn down all those beers that were bought for me. 
Good luck, get some sleep and PF
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #7 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 9:54am » |
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When in cycle...alcohol has always caused a cluster. It got to the point where I said WTF...& quit any & all alcohol (in cycle & out). It just wasn't worth the price of admission.
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If someone wishes to pay the consequence of having a drink or two thats one thing.
If your looking to get legless before the cluster hits then you have an alcohol problem.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #9 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 10:32am » |
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I wouldnt even think of drinking during a CH cycle but the weird thing is im constantly on a daily basis having shadows in between cycles. I usaully keep them at bay with diet coke and tylenol (i think its a mind thing) but when I drink I bassically have to get smashed. I would love to quit drinking all in all but beer is just so good.
Thanks for all the replys, you guys and gals just dont know what this site has done for me!!!!!!
Have a good day.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #10 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 10:42am » |
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 10:32am, schmitthead wrote: I usaully keep them at bay with diet coke and tylenol (i think its a mind thing) but when I drink I bassically have to get smashed.
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One point on the Tylenol...Don't ever take more then 4 grams a day. That's about 8 tylenol pills in 24 hours. And please NEVER mix tylenol with alcohol.
Stay painfree & safe Schmitty
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #11 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 10:49am » |
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I've found that alcohol actually prevents my 'prevents' from working. I was at work one day when I felt a hit coming on, so I immediately took my Imitrex. Normally that would kick in within about 15-20 minutes, so I decided to go have a couple cocktails...about 30 minutes later I was thinking WTF, why isn't the imitrex working. After about an hour of rocking and banging my head off the bar I went back to work. After a couple occasions like this, I finally conceeded to the fact that alcohol is NOT helping things at all and it's probably making it worse. That was hard for me to swallow being that I was in my early 20's, single, and had friends that loved to party. I gave up the juice for 3 months which worked to my advantage. When my cycle was finally over I could get smashed off of 2 beers 
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 3:27am, davebrick wrote:Tom
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Nobody said that, Dave. Jeez... Get the chip off of your shoulder already.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #13 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 12:05pm » |
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If I'm in a cycle and I drink I get hit so for me it's a no brainer...NO DRINKING.
Remeber, friends don't let friends drink while they're in a cycle
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #14 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 7:05pm » |
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You need to get in to see a neurologist, honey. This is a sign of being chronic. Are you at a base or out on your ship?
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 3:27am, davebrick wrote:| I am considered the bad guy here for going out drinking last night. |
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No....you are considered a jackoff for being a jackoff!
When you realize that maybe we can make up some ground on this, Jackoff!
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ROFLMMFAO.
We'll let you know when you rate "bad guy" status.
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 10:27am, don wrote:If someone wishes to pay the consequence of having a drink or two thats one thing.
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Addiction has many excuses, but that excuse was too funny  I have to drink alot..........I have clusters 
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #18 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 8:41pm » |
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It doesn't matter if you're drinking beer, wine or hard stuff. If you're an episodic, do not drink anything while in cycle.
Now for us Chronics it's a different story altogether. I once did a test. For 6 months I drank nothing alcoholic. Got hit 3 to 5 times per day.
I then started drinking my usual amount...a glass of wine 3 or 4 times a week.
NO DIFFERENCE WHAT-SO-EVER.
Still got hit as often. A few chronics I know, drink to oblivion just to fend the beast off. It works for him/her but I would not....repeat NOT recommend this.
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Re: Alcohol
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 8:41pm, Linda_Howell wrote:
It doesn't matter if you're drinking beer, wine or hard stuff. If you're an episodic, do not drink anything while in cycle.
Now for us Chronics it's a different story altogether. I once did a test. For 6 months I drank nothing alcoholic. Got hit 3 to 5 times per day.
I then started drinking my usual amount...a glass of wine 3 or 4 times a week.
NO DIFFERENCE WHAT-SO-EVER.
Still got hit as often. A few chronics I know, drink to oblivion just to fend the beast off. It works for him/her but I would not....repeat NOT recommend this.
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Agreed here......
Yesterday was a great example. Had 4 glasses of wine over the course of the day with not so much as a twinge. Today, sober as a judge and I've ghotten hit hard once and been feeling the battle between the beast and the meds all damn day since.
I get hit no more often if I have my wine or I don't, so I'm going to enjoy my wine when I have the desire to do so.
If we gotta be chronic, there damn well better be SOME sorta up-side to it.
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Re: Alcohol
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Too bad that THIS is the one and only up-side to being chronic that I can see Redd.
Oh woop-de-doo. I can drink, but I cannot have a life.
I'd trade with anyone. Linda
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #21 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 9:04pm » |
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I think that after reading this thread.........
        
....I need a drink!! 
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Re: Alcohol
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We sure can try like hell though....I'm happy that I'm able to still hold a job at this point. That's as much as I can hope for right now. Having a life will come later....after I'm back on my feet financially.
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Re: Alcohol
« Reply #23 on: Oct 3rd, 2004, 9:23pm » |
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I enjoy a drink , I enjoy several drinks more 
Im in the middle of a cycle at the moment, but I still drink, (maybe Im one of the lucky ones)
I've noticed that if I drink on a friday night theres a fifty fifty chance I'll get a CH.
However drinking the day after will give me no trouble at all. (might be alcohol still in the blood, I dont know).
What can I say, I enjoy going out with my mates at the weekend
Some may see this as the actions of a fool/alcoholic.
I prefer to think of it as:
Not letting the beast have control over my life.
If I wanna get pissed then I will,
If he shows up then I'll deal with it .
This little fucker that lives in my head, may disrupt my life at certain times.
But he is not in charge of what I do - I AM 
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on Oct 3rd, 2004, 9:23pm, mitChell wrote:| I enjoy a drink , I enjoy several drinks more |
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I can see we're going to get along just fine.
Quote:| Im in the middle of a cycle at the moment, but I still drink, (maybe Im one of the lucky ones) |
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For the first time, me too. Used to be...crack a beer......and writhe on the floor. Not so, this time. Not sure that bodes well.
Quote:| I've noticed that if I drink on a friday night theres a fifty fifty chance I'll get a CH. |
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Life's a crap shoot. Nothing like living on the edge, eh?
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Whoa, hoss. Drinking during the day is a bad sign. Always wait till dusk. Mostly.
Quote:| What can I say, I enjoy going out with my mates at the weekend |
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Sure thing. Three pints later, belly up at the bar, and you can't wait to push in their _stool_..........
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Judge ye not, lest.........
Quote:I prefer to think of it as:
Not letting the beast have control over my life.
If I wanna get pissed then I will,
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I'll drink to that.
Quote:This little fucker that lives in my head, may disrupt my life at certain times.
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Atta boy. If there's no challenge, where's the fun?
Typing makes me thirsty,
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