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No longer a virgin...
« on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:12pm » |
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Well, I gave myself my first shot of imitrex today. Wasn't real sure on just how hard to jab it. It took 3 tries to get the needle in. Admittedly, the first two were more hesitation than attempts. Third time was a charm. I can do this no problem.
I followed the trex trick from th elink at the left (Thanks DJ) and gave myself approx 1/3 of the vial. It worked, but 2 mg of trex subcutaneously seemed to take longer than the 2.5 mg of Zomig NS I had been using. I considered trying 3 mg, but I think I'll try to stick with 2mg unless stuff just gets bad.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #1 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:17pm » |
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Popped your cherry eh?
Don't become a trex sleeper.
I think it is a lot of tinkering (atleast it is for me) and you kinda start to figure out how much will work. The one perk (of using the tip) is that you can take more if necessary without having to wait.
Feel good dude & really hope it helps!
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #2 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:21pm » |
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Awe, our little Gator is a big boy now 
j/k dude.
Glad to hear it helped man. Nothing to it, eh?
Be safe with that stuff.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #3 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:21pm » |
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Why the switch from zomig to trex? 
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #4 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:23pm » |
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Brad took his with him down south.....he's yet to of ever done it.......cycle hasn't come yet......hopein it don't. But I jus can picture him and his 'merry little King family' fumblin around in his stuff to find it for him and help get him set.....and he try it for the first time to there horror. Hopefully that won't happen while he's with em in SC.......but.........if it does they will be in for QUITE a learning expirience ! When vacations go tricky trex Pam
I'm afraid of hurricanes and bein an inlaw sandwich in back of our truck and beach houses on stilts 'IN' the ocean this time of year..........so I decided to stay home and get depressed. 
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Did somebody say Virgins?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:26pm » |
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There's so few firsts left for a man your age. Tsk tsk.......
If'n I was you, I'd stick with the Zomig snorts........(unless that ain't an option.) If'n I finally had to go to the Trex jams, it'd be with the Injex 30.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #6 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:31pm » |
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So how many think the Zomig NS is better then the trex shots.....again I am confused cuz we keep tryin to figure out what is BEST to ask for. Figured the shots worked faster ??? So we went 'that route' with our doc and let him get around our insurence co so we could at least get a FEW a month. (get 4 total) Got that script for a year so will be stock pileing and HOPED "this plan" was best ? Geeze......bein supporter can be tough tryin to figure out what is best for someone else. He had the imitrex NS years ago and said that didn't work. I dunno girl Pam
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 9th, 2004, 11:39pm » |
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I don't care about fast or slow, I care about less hits and that is what the zomig pill does for me and that is why I choose it over the trex.
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So much for Virgins.....
« Reply #8 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 12:48am » |
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Coot.....the trex shots may be faster......but according to the latest from Research Central, the Zomig snorts work within 8 - 15 minutes for the most part. Kinda. The cool thing is, Zomig lasts a lot longer than Trex.....but it's a personal choice issue.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #9 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:38am » |
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Shit....one causes less hits ? Jus when I think I know enuff to get a plan tagether I turn stupid. Well......we'll see how this works for now or 'whenever' I mean. He'd NEVER touch the shots before.......but the trex pills took SO LONG for him....but.....last time he got hit left and right........strange cycle......he was takein trex left and right also tho. And am afraid to have two triptans in this house.....he gets too despret and afraid he'd start mixin. Dumber by the day Pam 
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Re: Did somebody say Virgins?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 3:24am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:26pm, Mr. Happy wrote:If'n I finally had to go to the Trex jams, it'd be with the Injex 30.
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That looks like an awesome needle-free way to deliver meds, but the maximum dosage per shot is .30mg, meaning at least 7 shots to reach 2.1mg or one third (approx.) of a 6mg standard shot.
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Re: So much for Virgins.....
« Reply #11 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 8:27am » |
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on Sep 10th, 2004, 12:48am, Mr. Happy wrote: Zomig lasts a lot longer than Trex.....but it's a personal choice issue.
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It's NOT a choice for some of us. Zomig will NOT help my clusters. ONLY IMITREX INJECTIONS WILL.
Gator,
If you don't find satisfactory relief from 2mg...up it to 3mg.
For some of us...2mg WON'T do the trick. I must take 4mg shots everytime. Works everytime 2 !!
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Re: Did somebody say Virgins?
« Reply #12 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 9:26am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:26pm, Mr. Happy wrote:
Hmmm. Sounds interesting...
Looked around a bit. There seem to be a number of needle-free injectors out there (injex, medi-ject, . Considering the number of people on insulin, there is very little feedback to be found.
Consensus seems to be that they do sting, with the problem being that the sting varies.
They also seem to be a pain in the ass to load.
The few reviews I found cover the entire love-them/hate-them range.
That said, my curiousity has been triggered. I want to try one.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #13 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 9:31am » |
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Gator,
Sounds like a long episode you got going there. Kick the MF's butt out the door REAL soon, ok man!
Best to you, I can't wait until you're PF bud.
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Re: Did somebody say Virgins?
« Reply #14 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 10:27am » |
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on Sep 10th, 2004, 3:24am, fubar wrote:
That looks like an awesome needle-free way to deliver meds, but the maximum dosage per shot is .30mg, meaning at least 7 shots to reach 2.1mg or one third (approx.) of a 6mg standard shot. |
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It acually holds .5 to 30ML (Millilitres) not milligrams. The statdose has 6mg of imitrex in .5 millilitres. So it would definitely hold 6 mgs of trex.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #15 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 11:06am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:21pm, thomas wrote:| Why the switch from zomig to trex? |
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It's all a big clusterfuck.
When I was on Community Care HMO, I could get 30 Zomig NS per month. I lost my job and had to switch over to the wife's insurance, Aetna PPO. Zomig NS is not on their formulary. You have to precert to even use it. I did that and got 6 per month. Great. I get hit 90 - 150 times per month and they will let me abort 6. With a letter of medical necessity, they upped it to 12. They gratiously denied my appeal for more.
Imitrex IS on their formulary. They will go 4 stat dose kits per month or 10 vials. I have talked to someone who said he got them to give him 90 vials a month. Worked them up a little at a time. I had the neuro write me a script for 30 per month and a letter of necessity. Even if they don't approve 30, I can theoretically abort up to 30 attacks with the 10 6mg vials.
As long as 2 mg trex works, I can abort at least one of the 3 - 5 hits I get every day.
One thing I don't understand is, they say right there on their website they get "rebates" from some drug companies for using their products. As far as I knew "rebates" were the same as kickbacks, which I thought were illegal. I guess if you use the right words, you can call a skunk a rose, but it still stinks to me.
Anyways, that is the story behind the switch to trex. I don't like it, but it's the only way I can beat the numbers game.
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Re: Did somebody say Virgins?
« Reply #16 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:09pm » |
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It acually holds .5 to 30ML (Millilitres) not milligrams. The statdose has 6mg of imitrex in .5 millilitres. So it would definitely hold 6 mgs of trex.
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It holds up to .30 ml., not 30ml
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:26pm » |
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Jesus Gator, that really sucks.
I am rapidly beginning to form the opinion that insurance companies are the worst of the worst of the worst in this country. Will we ever see the day when insurance companies quit practicing medicine?
Or, better yet, disappear completely?
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #18 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:28pm » |
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Hi Gator, hope things are going well. I use the Imitrex Nasal Sprays. I get relief within 5 to 10 minutes. Just throwing out an option for you.
Best wishes my brother..
John
edit: fyi Imitrex does offer coupons from their website. I use them alot. I also do the mail order route that saves even more.
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Aetna HMO sux, no doubt.
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:31pm » |
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on Sep 10th, 2004, 11:06am, Gator wrote:
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It's actually ClusterChuck, and he ain't that big...
The injects aren't as bad as I thought and without the surprise factor of the statdose pen, it may be easier. There is always that thrill with the stat pen...ready....set.....aaaaaaah....wait, breathe.....ready.....pfttttp....sigh...all done now.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
« Reply #21 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 1:39pm » |
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The Injex thing caught my eye when I first saw it. Easy to use, no sharp medical waste products to worry about, and it looks really cool.
First I thought Fu was right. Then I thought Jimmy was right. Then I thought Fu was right. Then, in spite of my better male judgement, I went back and RTFM on Trex and Injex.
Quote:| IMITREX Injection is a clear, colorless to pale yellow, sterile, nonpyrogenic solution for subcutaneous injection. Each 0.5 mL of solution contains 6 mg of sumatriptan (base) as the succinate salt and 3.5 mg of sodium chloride |
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If I'm doing the math right, 0.166 mL equals 2 mg of bounteous Trex. Injex gets the NOA.
It's all this communistic Metric crap that's the problem,
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Re: Did somebody say Virgins?
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It holds up to .30 ml., not 30ml
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My Bad, Fubar My glasses are here somewhere....
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 2:51pm » |
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That's the info I didn't have (.5ml = 6mg dose)
So, it looks like you *could* use it, but I've read it does sting more than a needle. It does look pretty cool though.
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Re: No longer a virgin...
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on Sep 9th, 2004, 11:17pm, E-Double wrote:Popped your cherry eh?
Don't become a trex sleeper.
I think it is a lot of tinkering (atleast it is for me) and you kinda start to figure out how much will work. The one perk (of using the tip) is that you can take more if necessary without having to wait.
Feel good dude & really hope it helps!
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When did certain words get censored? sleeper was wh--ore. MAtters not just curious.
Get some damn relief already bro!!!
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