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Just stoppin in to stir up some........
« on: Sep 7th, 2004, 4:37pm » |
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 5:19 PM
Subject: Ponder This
This is a letter from Ray Reynolds, a medic in the Iowa Army National Guard, serving in Iraq:
As I head off to Baghdad for the final weeks of my stay in Iraq, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who did not believe the media. They have done a very poor job of covering everything that has happened. I am sorry that I have not been able to visit all of you during my two week leave back home. And just so you can rest at night knowing something is happening in Iraq that is noteworthy, I thought I would pass this on to you. This is the list of things that has happened in Iraq recently: (Please share it with your friends and compare it to the version that your paper is producing.)
* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever
* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
* An interim constitution has been signed.
* Girls are allowed to attend school.
* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.
Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these facts. So If you happen to run into John Kerry, be sure to give him my email address and send him to Denison, Iowa. This soldier will set him straight. If you are like me and very disgusted with how this period of rebuilding has been portrayed, email this to a friend and let them know there are good things happening.
Ray Reynolds, SFC
Iowa Army National Guard
234th Signal Battalion
Is it live or is it memorex.......................Little Deb 
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 4:40pm » |
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LET IT RIDE....YEE-HAAWWW!!!!
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Re: Just stoppin in to stir up some........
« Reply #2 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 4:44pm » |
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I'm all for supporting the troops overseas.
However, I have also quite a lengthy printout at home stating that if Bush is reelected, he is planning on reinstating the draft in about March of 2005. I'd have to reread what I have at home to know for sure.
Can't say that I don't think that is nucking futs, but that's just me!
L2 the 23 year old kid with lots of 20-something year old draft eligible friends and family!!!
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 4:46pm » |
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He neglected to mention his thousand dead buddies.
//would make more sense if he were sending stupid emails from afghanistan
/bush kerry pick a stooge
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 4:44pm, Lizzie2 wrote:| However, I have also quite a lengthy printout at home stating that if Bush is reelected, he is planning on reinstating the draft in about March of 2005. I'd have to reread what I have at home to know for sure. |
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i am not saying it will never happen, but only congress can do that L2
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We have done a great thing in Iraq and it is producing wonderful things for the Iraqis, and for the entire region, as well. Look at Iran: The "Mad Mullahs" are scared to death. There is no way that freedom can ever be silenced. Suppressed in one place, it breaks out in another. It is every human being's birthright. The world can say whatever it likes, but the long view of history will show that what we and our allies have begun in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the beginning of the end of global, international terrorism.
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 5:44pm, Jeepgun wrote:
With a shotgun blast!!!
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P.S. The crap about the draft is BS. John is correct: Only Congress can reinstitute the draft, and there are no plans in the works to do it, although this measure has ALWAYS been on the table since the early 70's.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 6:38pm » |
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 5:47pm, Jonny wrote:
As soon as my friend Tim comes online, I can ask him his quote that relates to this! It's pretty funny. Something about letting us have peace on earth with enough nukes, planes, etc to keep it. Wish I could remember it exactly!!!
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 6:38pm, Lizzie2 wrote:| As soon as my friend Tim comes online, I can ask him his quote that relates to this! It's pretty funny. Something about letting us have peace on earth with enough nukes, planes, etc to keep it. Wish I could remember it exactly!!! |
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Actually its the chorus of a song done by Machine Head.
"Let freedom ring with a shotgun blast"
Kickass beast music.....LOL
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 6:54pm » |
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See what you stirred up L.D.?
Vote Libertarian!
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 7:16pm » |
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Any chance of invading the good old United Kingdom to help us maintain some of our cherished freedoms that are fast disappearing? 
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 7:18pm » |
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What about the freedoms that are swiftly disappearing from our own country in the name of this war on terror. Or do only the wealthy get to have freedom.
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 5:44pm, Jeepgun wrote:| The world can say whatever it likes, but the long view of history will show that what we and our allies have begun in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the beginning of the end of global, international terrorism. |
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That's a good bullseye to shoot for. Nowhere to hide!
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 9:21pm » |
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 5:44pm, Jeepgun wrote:We have done a great thing in Iraq and it is producing wonderful things for the Iraqis, and for the entire region, as well. Look at Iran: The "Mad Mullahs" are scared to death. There is no way that freedom can ever be silenced. Suppressed in one place, it breaks out in another. It is every human being's birthright. The world can say whatever it likes, but the long view of history will show that what we and our allies have begun in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the beginning of the end of global, international terrorism.
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"While America's attention was focused last week on the Republican National Convention in New York, and the world was watching the hostage tragedy unfold in the small Russian town of Beslan, the prestigious British Royal Institute of International Affairs (known as Chatham House) issued a report saying a major civil war that would destablize the entire Middle East region is the mostly likely outcome for Iraq if current conditions continue."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0906/dailyUpdate.html?s=ent2
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 8:56pm, Kevin_M wrote:
That's a good bullseye to shoot for. Nowhere to hide!
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 9:21pm, IndianaJohn wrote:
I guess we'll never know what we've already prevented.
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all politics aside... Ive been living this war through 2 deployments and my views are that I just want this over. God bless the USA and OUR freedom............. love ree
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 10:08pm » |
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First, thank you to Ray Reynolds,SFC
Makes me very proud!
Here's a thought....
IF we had a draft.
Then maybe our armed forces population might be more spread out across economic/cultural/geographic lines. (careful here, because the incredibly wealthy will always exclude themselves)
Then maybe our president and congress might think differently about who they were sending to war and why.
on the flip side,
maybe the rest of the country might think differently about the war itself...who and was over there and what they are doing.
(Not saying I want a draft just supposing..)
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very good point............ ree
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on Sep 7th, 2004, 10:08pm, lionsound wrote:IF we had a draft.
Then maybe our armed forces population might be more spread out across economic/cultural/geographic lines. |
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They stopped college deferments (college goers exempt) back in about 1970 to try to attain that goal. The draft stopped about two years later.
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« Reply #21 on: Sep 7th, 2004, 10:21pm » |
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I've been to two wars, and have no problem going to a third and a fourth and more, if called. I would serve proudly and gladly.
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 8th, 2004, 4:14am » |
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The letter from Ray Reynolds- all good news. Thanks Deb. But, unfortunately good news does not sell newspapers or prime time TV. Follow the money!
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And IF the law did not allow doctors to write deferments for hang nails. And IF the law did not allow daddy to buy sissy-boy’s deferment. And IF the law did not allow college deferments. And IF the law did not allow marriage deferments. And If Canadian laws did not allow cowards to hide there.
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 8th, 2004, 8:06am » |
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There certainly won't be a draft for the Air Force. They are currently trying to get rid of 16000 troops. They are over staffed and congress says they have to downsize. Wouldn't make much sense to put a draft in place when they are kicking people out....
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