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Computer Security (NON CH)
« on: Aug 25th, 2004, 10:12am » |
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We have recently started having problems at our Library with some very bold person (probably a kid) stealing computers. They actually walked out the door twice now with a computer system.
Last week they took one (Right under our very aware staffs nose) and broke off the case lock, opened it up, and then stole the processor and RAM out of it.
Does anyone know of a good case alarm that can be used for our systems? I'm looking for something that has a mercury switch in it or something like that to detect that it has been moved and set of a LOUD alarm.
I've already found one that looks promising at http://www.microsnitch.com but I have gotten almost no answers out of them when trying to contact them with questions about their product.
I know that there are some people here whos jobs are similar to mine and may have some ideas.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe I can just rig up a decoy with some explosives......... No, then I'd have to clean up the mess.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #1 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 10:35am » |
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In the past I have used one way screws to secure the covers. Without a special backout tool you absolutely cannot get into the case to remove the guts. Fairly inexpensive. Similar to the type of screws they use on bathroom stall partitions.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 10:44am » |
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I considered that but the person that is doing this is actually bringing their own tools. Pliers or vise grip or something like that.
They also don't seem to care if they break the case in the process.
Our staff is obviousely asleep at thier desks and wouldn't notice any way.
I will look into that though.
Thanks.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #3 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 10:46am » |
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Inside jobs or a brave vendor or visitor?
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #4 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 10:52am » |
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on Aug 25th, 2004, 10:46am, echo wrote:| Inside jobs or a brave vendor or visitor? |
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Not sure yet.
At first, I thought it was inside but now I'm starting to think we have a young urchin lurking around.
We had a bunch of network stuff walk out at a different branch last year. Hubs, network cables, etc... He got caught after I sabotoged him. This person will get caught too.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #5 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:02am » |
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on Aug 25th, 2004, 10:35am, echo wrote:| In the past I have used one way screws to secure the covers. Without a special backout tool you absolutely cannot get into the case to remove the guts. Fairly inexpensive. Similar to the type of screws they use on bathroom stall partitions. |
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You know, that's something that's always baffled me(it doesn't take much, believe me). Why in the world would anyone steal bathroom stall partitions? Is there that big of a market for these things? Where do you fence bathroom stall partitions?
Sorry Pat, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. Since it was brought up, I just had to ask the question.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #6 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:04am » |
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I've always wondered about the bathroom stall stuff too.
I wonder if there's a market for graffitti infested bathroom doors???
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #7 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:11am » |
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On the bathroom stall question...
Until you've run a business that has a public bathroom, you just cannot understand or imagine all of the weird and disgusting things people will do. I happen to have a bar, so add alcohol to the mix and you just never know what's going to be next. People removing screws is an automatic problem Dunno why, don't care why. Keeping a public bathroom in shape for the general public is a challenge.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #8 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:51am » |
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I find waving a gun around deters most of this....
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #9 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:53am » |
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on Aug 25th, 2004, 11:51am, vig wrote:| I find waving a gun around deters most of this.... |
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I also considered this but since I work for the Library, they kind of look down on carrying/displaying weapons at work.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #10 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 11:58am » |
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Have you thought about surveillance. Either covert pinhole cameras or old-fashioned eyeball surveillance.
Thiefs are creatures of habit & usually strike around the same time & day of week. i.e. if it's a weekday or weekend. During morning, afternoon or night.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #11 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 12:03pm » |
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on Aug 25th, 2004, 11:58am, Jimmy_B wrote:Have you thought about surveillance. Either covert pinhole cameras or old-fashioned eyeball surveillance.
Thiefs are creatures of habit & usually strike around the same time & day of week. i.e. if it's a weekday or weekend. During morning, afternoon or night.
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That's another thing on my wish list. With a building the size of this one, it would take at least 8 cameras to keep an eye on our stuff. Trying to get the Library board to spend money on anything like this would be like talking Santa into shaving his beard.
We DO have video surveillance at the other Library where we eventually caught a kid stealing computer equipment. I zip tied some stuff together that I thought he would try to steal. He went for it and got slowed down enough that our staff caught him. The surveillance video sealed the deal.
I am actively trying to talk our director into getting at least a couple of cameras for our problem areas.
Thanks for all of the advice everyone.
Pat
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #12 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 12:10pm » |
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12 Volt 2 Amp charge to the lock hasp perchance. A cattle prod and the first person to yell, tag yer it.
No firearms or obvious weapons involved.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #13 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 12:16pm » |
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I build AMD systems and can't remember the tha last upgrade I made short of a MB on up type upgrade. I would take a hot glue gun and glue the locking lever to the CPU, same with the ram. May not stop em but will shure as hell slow em down.
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Re: Computer Security (NON CH)
« Reply #14 on: Aug 25th, 2004, 5:26pm » |
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How about a couple of dobermans tied to the computer desk.
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