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A society out of control
« on: Jul 24th, 2004, 1:59pm » |
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Even if one is a 'supporter' certainly we can agree there's something disgusting about this:
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #1 on: Jul 24th, 2004, 2:03pm » |
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Yuck!!!
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #2 on: Jul 24th, 2004, 2:10pm » |
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Not good.
Society is not out of control but both sides of this issue too often go over the top.
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One should choose their side and be proud of it. Give me someone who has chosen a side and is convicted to it. I know where they stand. It's the lukewarm that disgust me.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #4 on: Jul 24th, 2004, 7:35pm » |
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WTF??? There are some truly batshit crazy people in the world... 
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #5 on: Jul 24th, 2004, 11:02pm » |
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Abortion pride? How can you proud of that?
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #6 on: Jul 24th, 2004, 11:18pm » |
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I don't know anyone who has had an abortion who was proud of it. 
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #7 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 5:52am » |
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Neither do I and I know several who have had it done. It isn't easy, sometimes it's medically necessary but is sure isn't easy.
I screws up politics too.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #8 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 3:58pm » |
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Oh how sad was that...
I volunteer at a non profit, nationwide Christian crisis pregnancy center called "Care Net" which educates women (and men) regarding their choices when they are pregnant. It also educates women (and men) about the long term and short term effects of abortion which Planned Parenthood rarely does. They have a wonderful P.A.T.H. program--Post Abortion Teaching and Healing. It addresses the guilt, shame and sadness that women can sometimes experience. They also have a great support group for MEN who have wives, girlfriends who have had abortions. YES! Abortion affects men also. I have seen it. If the woman chooses to carry the baby to term the center offers them parenting classes, free clothing, cribs, etc and gets them in touch with other women in similar circumstances. If they choose to abort then they can return and join the P.A.T.H. group if they want.
Few causes touch my heart more than crisis pregnancies and abortions. Samantha
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #9 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 7:51pm » |
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Wow. I don't know what to say. That is gotta be one of the worst fundraising ideas I have ever heard. It is definately not something to be proud of .
I do however like the bumper stickers that say "Abortion Stops A Beating Heart".
sad to lose any baby at any age for any reason...............Little Deb
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #10 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 9:49pm » |
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All very fine but it's very rare that any of these zealots will actually foot the bills, raise the child, or REALLY help the family. That's the hard part and it doesn't help the cause.
Although I'm not religious, you have to admire the Catholics. At least they are consistent. They don't believe in abortion or the death penalty.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #11 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 11:01pm » |
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From a man's standpoint, and from the standpoint of one who used to be in the medical field, I'm glad that the choice is available in a medically safe environment, when the procedure is unavoidable. Certainly, I don't agree with it as a means of birth control, but abortions have been going on since the beginning of time. Certain women are going to have them, whether they go to a clinic, or go to a back-alley coathanger shop. At least in a medical environment, the woman actually stands a chance of surviving.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #12 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 11:16pm » |
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In some cases I'm for abortion. But only if performed retroactively.
This is one of those times.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #13 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 11:28pm » |
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Jeep, I agree with you, but just hate that it does happen at all, for the child's sake.
Charlie, I know a good many Catholics that have had abortions or demanded that their girlfriends have abortions so that they wouldn't be embarrassed having a child out of wedlock.
I believe every person has to make their own choices in life including what they believe in with respect to religion. And then they have to live with and die with their decisions. It is between them and their God if they have one.
And I hope no women ever has to resort to a back alley abortion, although I am sure it still happens.
I believe all life is sacred and life begins at conception. I wish today our education stessed that a little more. And I wish there were not any unwanted pregnancies, and I wish more unwanted pregnancies resulted in adoption by loving families.
Well...................I don't know what happened....didn't mean to jump on the happy bandwagon. Shutting up now.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #14 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 11:34pm » |
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The endless bickering, disgustinig rants, name calling, wasted time and money, deaths, (even the death near Buffalo of an MD by a sniper) awful internet pictures, nasty bumper stickers, disgusting t-shirts, and of course all the beautiful people who make sure their children are part of this, makes me so proud.
Even for those opposing abortion, this crap has brought out the worst of us and is worse than the act.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #15 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 7:45am » |
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I agree with you, Deb and Charlie. Horrible, all the way around... 
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #16 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 10:07am » |
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on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:01pm, Jeepgun wrote:| Certain women are going to have them, whether they go to a clinic, or go to a back-alley coathanger shop. |
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Certain women such as....?
Funny, I didn't see this or a similar article in any newspaper or on the news, or in any magazine.
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 10:19am » |
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Quote: Funny, I didn't see this or a similar article in any newspaper or on the news, or in any magazine.
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I did check the PP site, and those T-shirts are available. Not sure that it is 'news' in the traditional sense, but perhaps worthy of analysis and commentary.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #19 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 10:53am » |
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Deaths from amateur-performed abortions were one of the major factors in Roe vs. Wade. I am not condoning the practice of abortion, and this will be my final comment on this thread, because this discussion is one of those that will never end. There ARE cases where abortion is necessary, due to the life of the mother being in jeopardy, rape, incest, etc. There are women who will choose to have them due to accidental pregnancy. I still think it's the woman's choice, and if she chooses to have an abortion, I'm glad that the procedure is available in a medically safe environment. I will not cast moral judgment one way or the other. I am speaking only from a clinical point of view.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #20 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 10:57am » |
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Oh, that's what tinyurl.com is for!! I have heard of it before, but its purpose never clicked. I think I need to check it out as well.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #21 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 11:00am » |
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cool, I never heard of that. Other boards I am on have a link button and you put in the url and it then you put a title. but this one doesn't do that.
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #22 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 11:34am » |
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I am pro-abortion of this thread 
So where is my 'I had an abrogation' t-shirt?
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Re: A society out of control
« Reply #23 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 12:16pm » |
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I don't have a problem with this tee shirt if they put the following message on the back of it.
"I murdered my defensless baby because I don't have the time to raise a child right now but I'm to irresposible to have sex without getting pregnant."
Flame me!!!
I don't care!!!
ABORTION IS MURDER OF YOUR OWN CHILD!!!!!!!
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 26th, 2004, 12:30pm » |
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war is abortion...late term.
now wear that t-shirt and wave that jolly roger flag of rationalization and self interest that you do so well.
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