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To Be or Not To Be....for our President???
« on: Jun 25th, 2004, 3:48pm » |
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Some fat to chew....I look forward to some opinions on this one...........
Got this in an email today from a friend, who got it from a friend, who got it from.......
Dear Senator Kerry:
Since it has become clear that you will probably be the Democratic
nominee for President, I have spent a great deal of time researching
your war record and your record as a professional politician. The
reason is simple, you aspire to be the Commander in Chief who would
lead my sons and their fellow soldiers in time of war. I simply
wanted to know if you possess the necessary qualifications to be
trusted in that respect.
You see, I belong to a family of proud U.S. veterans. I was a
Captain in the Army Reserve, my father was a decorated Lieutenant in
World War II; and I have four sons who have either served, or are
currently serving in the military. The oldest is an Army Lieutenant
still on active duty in Afghanistan after already being honored for
his service in Iraq. The youngest is an E-4 with the military
police. His National Guard unit just finished their second tour of
active duty, including six months in Guantanamo Bay. My two other
sons have served in the national guard and the navy.
In looking at your record I found myself comparing it not only to
that of my father and my sons, but to the people they served with.
My father served with the 87th Chemical Mortar Battalion in Europe.
They landed on Utah Beach and fought for 317 straight days including
the Cherbourg Peninsula, Aachen, the Hurtgen Forest, and the Battle
of the Bulge. You earned a Silver Star in Vietnam for chasing down
and finishing off a wounded and retreating enemy soldier. My father
won a Bronze Star for single handedly charging and knocking out a
German machine gun nest that had his men pinned down. You received
three purple hearts for what appears to be three minor scratches. In
fact you only missed a combined total of two days of duty for these
wounds. The men of my father's unit, the 87th, had to be admonished
by their commanding officer because: "It has been brought to our
attention that some men are covering up wounds and refusing medical
attention for fear of being evacuated and permanently separated from
this organization..." It was also a common problem for seriously
wounded soldiers to go AWOL from hospitals in order to rejoin their
units. You used your three purple hearts to leave Vietnam early.
My oldest boy came home from Iraq with numerous commendations and
then proceeded to volunteer to go to Afghanistan and from there back
to Iraq again. My sons and father have never had anything but the
highest regard and respect for their fellow soldiers. Yet, you came
home to publicly charge your fellow fighting men with being war
criminals and to urge their defeat by the enemy. You even wrote a
book that had a cover which mocked the heroism of the U.S. Marines
who raised the flag on Iwo Jima. Our current crop of soldiers has a
philosophy that no one gets left behind; and they have practiced
that from Somalia to the battlefields of the Middle East. Yet as
chairman of a Senate committee looking into allegations that many of
your fellow servicemen had been left behind as prisoners in Vietnam,
you chose to defend the brutal Vietnamese regime. You even went so
far as to refer to the families of the POWs and MIAs as Professional
malcontents, conspiracy mongers, con artists, and dime-store Rambos.
As a Senator you voted against the 1991 Gulf War, and have
repeatedly voted against funds to supply our troops with the best
equipment, and against money to improve our intelligence capability.
I find this particularly ironic since as a Presidential candidate
you are highly critical of our pre-war intelligence in Iraq.
However, you did vote to authorize the President to go to war, but
have since proceeded to do everything you can to undermine the
efforts of our government and our troops to win. Is this what our
fighting men and women can expect of you if you are their Commander
in Chief? Will you gladly send them to war, only to then aid the
enemy by undermining the morale of our troops and cutting off the
weapons they need to win?
Our country is at war Senator, and as has been the case in every war
since the American Revolution, a member of my family is serving
their country during the war. Now you want me to trust you to lead
my sons in this fight.
Sorry Senator, but when I compare your record to those who have
fought and died for this nation, and are currently fighting and
dying, the answer is not just no, but Hell No!
Sincerely,
Michael Connelly February 14, 2004 Dallas, Texas
Forward this to EVERYONE you know--we can NOT afford to have this
man as the President of the United States!!
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Re: To Be or Not To Be....for our President???
« Reply #1 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 3:55pm » |
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Deb, Im with you I want to vote but for the RIGHT person!!!!
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 3:58pm » |
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DING! DING!.....The gloves are off, Let the games begin!!!!
LMMFAO........jonny 
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LMMFAO Jonny GMTA!!!! 
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:05pm » |
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Okay... I'm going to do my best to stay out of this one. I'm going to simply don my asbestos suit, maybe pop some popcorn, and watch as the Dems, liberals, and Socialists start frothing at the mouth.  My only comment: Kerry is scary. That is all.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:19pm » |
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Our local paper today said that our Governator wants to shorten the holding period for stray animals from 6 days to 3 days before we off them. Sounds to me like that may work for welfare also.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:27pm » |
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Sounds to me like it was written by a whinny bastard that wants to brag about his family.
(if he has a family, which I doubt)
Why doesn't he send a message to W and ask "During the Vietnam war where the Hell were you?"
And since this is going to turn into a political string I want to ask something.
When Clinton was President one of the parties (I won't say which one) wanted to impeach him big time for being unfaithful to is wife, a personal thing between husband and wife.
Now Bush is President and he is getting American soldiers killed in a war that was started because of made up evidence of WMD's and Americans are getting their rights violated more and more every day but the un-named party mentioned above is silent on impeachment. Hmmmm...
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:34pm » |
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Quote: Dick Cheney said in 1989 that he (in contrast to John Kerry) didn't go to Vietnam because "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." While Kerry risked his life, Bush got himself into the National Guard.
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One person who is outraged by the attacks on Kerry is McCain. When I reached the Arizona Republican, I found him deeply troubled over the reopening of wounds from the Vietnam era, "the most divisive time since our civil war." He called Sampley "one of the most despicable characters I've ever met." McCain said he hoped that in the midst of a war in Iraq, politicians "will confront the challenges facing us now, including the conflict we're presently engaged in, rather than refighting the one we were engaged in more than 30 years ago."
McCain recalled that he had worked with Kerry on "POW/MIA issues and the normalization of relations with Vietnam" and wanted to stand up for his war comrade because "you have to do what's right." Speaking of Kerry, McCain said: "He's my friend. He'll continue to be my friend. I know his service was honorable. If that hurts me politically or with my party, that's a very small price to pay."
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:38pm » |
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Oh yeah!.....Take this *Sticking tongue out*  ......LMMFAO
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:43pm » |
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Intriguing(is that spelled right?) letter Deb...but I try to stay out of these things....or this thread could turn out to be 8 million pages long...I recall other threads going on a long time over kind of related topics.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 4:52pm » |
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250 million people in the USA.
Dubya or Kerry will be our next President. 
Our country is dog-fucked.
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 5:05pm » |
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Will we at least get a post-coital cigarette and some snoogles afterward?
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 5:20pm » |
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Standard neocon chain letter from youngsters who have no idea what the Republican Party used to be.
When you can't win on the message, you have to attack the character. A disgusting example:
They defeated Senator Max Cleland of South Carolina by showing a composite in ads of him next to Saddam Hussein because he didn't support some military funding. Cleland left a couple of legs and I believe an arm in Vietnam. I can't support what the party has become. I voted for Ronald Reagan once but by this kind of thing and pretty much kicking out progressive candidates, they lost me forever.
The reason they hated Clinton wasn't so much Monica as it was that he knew how to deal with it and win. He drove them nuts.
Used to be a great party.
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 6:28pm » |
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Quote:| When Clinton was President one of the parties (I won't say which one) wanted to impeach him big time for being unfaithful to is wife, a personal thing between husband and wife. |
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I wanted to see him impeached because he was fucking young girls while he was on my payroll and then he lied to me about it. I'd fire any of my employees for that.
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 6:32pm » |
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Used to be is right. Problem is, until now, I was able to vote Republican and feel OK about it since I felt the balance of pro/con was better for me than when measured against the Democrats. I guess what that means is, all other things being equal and forgetting about the actual candidate, I usually voted Republican because I favored the party platform. NOW, the Republicans seem completely mad, and I just can't vote Democrat. It looks like my only way to cast a vote for president is to waste it on some non-contender which ends up helping Bush this time anyway.
To me, it's not even about Bush. It's about what party controls the executive branch. And the Republicans are just plain scary anymore.
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C'mon. He was only Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the most powerful country in the world. You would actually consider an error in judgement to be something worth being worried about? This, a man who considered himself to be above the most basic laws of our judicial system? A former attorney? The same man who would be appointing justices to our Supreme court? It's not like he needs to have strong concepts in ethics to be responsible for picking our Supreme Court Justices! Don't be ridiculous.
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 6:47pm » |
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I know you are but what am I
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on Jun 25th, 2004, 6:47pm, jonny wrote:I know you are but what am I
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Oh yeah?!
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on Jun 25th, 2004, 6:54pm, Rock_Lobster wrote:
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Damn!!!!, you dont look well in that pic, Rock....See a Doc quick like!!
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This was funny...........last week Ronald Reagan Jr. Stated that he felt that President Bush used the wrong approach with Iraq and should have left the UN do its job.
Georges reply to that was "what does an expresidents son know about Iraq anyway  "
I know there are gonna be people who go "I don't get it " LMAO
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 7:09pm » |
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Hmmmm typically I'm a democrat, but I wasn't registered to vote in time for the last presidential election. Frankly, the only election I voted in was to get Ed Rendell elected governor of PA. Guess I'm one of them dumb younguns who hasn't gotten the sense to take voting seriously. I'm trying, but I usually don't live anywhere near my voting district and I never get the absentee ballot done in time!
All that aside, I really don't like Kerry or Bush. So, should I bother getting the absentee ballot this time around? I know I know...it's my duty as an American. But I don't want to be responsible for whatever nut runs this country next!!!
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on Jun 25th, 2004, 7:01pm, jonny wrote:
Damn!!!!, you dont look well in that pic, Rock....See a Doc quick like!!
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I was hungover there, thus the sunglasses and mussed doo. Same morning, after I groomed myself...
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on Jun 25th, 2004, 7:14pm, Rock_Lobster wrote:I was hungover there, thus the sunglasses and mussed doo. Same morning, after I groomed myself...
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Then why did you send me this pic and say it was you?....Make up your mind......Uhhhh.... thing
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Quote:| I wanted to see him impeached because he was fucking young girls while he was on my payroll and then he lied to me about it. I'd fire any of my employees for that. |
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And the so-called Republicans spent nearly $40,000,000 of your payroll in a moronic show trial that everybody knew was a waste of time. But it's nice that the GOP Puritans got to show so us their purity of essense.
Quote:This, a man who considered himself to be above the most basic laws of our judicial system? A former attorney? The same man who would be appointing justices to our Supreme court? It's not like he needs to have strong concepts in ethics to be responsible for picking our Supreme Court Justices! Don't be ridiculous.
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You're killing me here. Not that any GOP Presidents have done anything that might be above the law! Give us a break. Getting a trim in the west wing pales to insignificance compared to the pure as the driven snow elected (and not elected) Republican Constitution shredders that have disgraced the Oval Office. The current one has done a bang-up job of it too....if not "better." It should terrify anyone.
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The other side shows the balls
My dick couldn't penetrate that
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