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I see a lot of post that either shows depression or talks about depression here.
How many of you get help for the depression? I mean real help. I hear some take different drugs for it but how many go beyond that and go to a mental health center and seek Counselling?
I been through hell and back health wise and with what life has thrown at me. I have gone for counselling. See life, and health problems wear on us mentally and sometimes we become mentally sick. You can't fix that alone you have to have counselling. Its nothing to be ashamed of its part of life.
i just see so many people down in the dumps and some just never seem to get out but I never really hear a lot about them trying to get out, I don't hear much about anyone going for counselling, just that they take some kind of pill for depression the doctor gave them. Did the doctor advise you to seek help else where ? Not many do and thats a shame.
Please if you are depressed go get help at the right place. Don't get me wrong I am not saying don't come here. I am saying do both.
I fought doing it but man after I did, I began to live again. I am here to tell you Life can be good, even with clusters. What can you lose try it it might help.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #1 on: Jun 19th, 2004, 7:45am » |
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Couldn't agree with you more. Sometimes life just hands you crap that is impossible to deal with on your own.
No shame in seeking help folks - sometimes we just needs the perspective of someone who is completely outside the problem to help bring your focus back to where you need to be.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #2 on: Jun 19th, 2004, 10:49am » |
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I think sometimes you just get in a mindset of "it ain't gonna get better anyway so why bother" without even realizing it.
Life won't give you something that you can't deal with?
Someone who is "outside the problem" can show you a different way of looking at things.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #3 on: Jun 19th, 2004, 10:58am » |
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"problems can't be solved within the mindset that created them."
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #4 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 2:43am » |
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Elaine,
was thinkin the same thing earlier this week (since I have been moping around the house for 3 weeks now)... just trying to come to grips with the fact that I appear to be chronic... so I decided to go see my doc on friday.
What did he tell me?
Basically: get off my duff, exercise every day, and force myself to do things that I used to normally enjoy even if I don't really now...i'm just in a rut, and that I will climb out of it if I don't let my life stop.
Gee.. thanks doc!
Been goin to him for 12 years... was a bit mad at first - but got to thinkin today that he is right. I just need a swift kick in the hind-end.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #5 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 6:55am » |
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 As always Elaine, you are right on the money...a good post and one that needs to be done every so often as we all tend to become self absorbed and need to be reminded to get over ourselves, we are not the only ones with pain/problems in our lives and we have support systems in place for a reason...use them...in sharing with others, we are often able to see our own solutions...aren't we smart???  Hugs to you lady....
Oh, and tell Buddy he is seeing things, I75 does not run thru ND...but I am glad he thought of me...
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #6 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 7:04am » |
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Right on th emoney.........
As a Behavior Analyst I am trained to change peoples behavior.
I have always thrived in my career and can seem to modify everyone elses but my own. IRONIC!!!!!!!
Anyway, therapy should be a good and very helpful thing and it may be a matter of us just getting off our asses and getting that additional help.
You are right because I'm sick of sulking!!!!
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 2:37pm » |
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #8 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 6:08pm » |
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counseling pissed me off and depressed me more...damn money grubbin worthless...pretty sad that my mental health came in second to the B*tche's paycheck 
don't even get me started...
But... to those of you who havent seen someone, do so but make sure they are there to help instead of just take your money and talk out of their asses...fer real tho.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #9 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 6:28pm » |
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A few years ago when I was episodic. I was having the worst time. Suicide was on my mind all the time. The only thing that stopped me from doing it was the thought of my family hurting. The doctor that I had at that time was useless. It got to the point where I wished I had aids or terminal cancer, or begged for the truck that was coming in the opposite lane to vear out of his lane and hit me. I hated the fact that people loved me as it was stopping me from ending it all.
I got to a breaking point. I begged God to guide me as I couldn't take another 2 more weeks of this torture.
I made an appointment with a free counselor. I screamed at God in her sessions with me. I said that Jesus was crucified on the cross but his pain was over in a few days. I was being crucified day after day after day, with no help.
She turned to me and told me that her own family practitioner suffers with chronic clusterheadaches.
I met with her family doctor and my life turned around FAST. That same month I found www.clusterheadaches.com...you might have all heard of it. Now I was no longer alone. I think God heard my screams and answered me.
suicide is now a thought I had in the past.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #10 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 6:44pm » |
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on Jun 19th, 2004, 10:49am, purpleydog wrote:Life won't give you something that you can't deal with?
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Another worthless platitude. Tell that to all the people who committed suicide because they couldn't handle it.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #11 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 10:39pm » |
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on Jun 20th, 2004, 6:44pm, Gator wrote:
Another worthless platitude. Tell that to all the people who committed suicide because they couldn't handle it.
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You know Gator, I feel the same way/
For me, I find that statement only upsets me more because who is to deside what I can or can not handle. I am the one that has to get up everyday. I am the one that has to deal with it. I am the one that has to face each and every day knowing that the Beast will come back. fuck if I am being tested.
I have to believe that I am learning from this. I have to elieve that this experiance is teaching me somethig that will allow me to help someone. That each and everything that happens in my life creates the person that I am. That if it where not for each of those things that I would not be the woman that I am right now.
I have seen couselors, for many other issues that had nothing to do with CH. Hell, I am trained and used to work as one. There are times when I get depressed, that has always happened. But the choses that I make now are that I would rather feel the good along the all the bad, then to shut down emotonally and never feel anything.
Yes there are a lot of couselors out there that are only out there for a buck, but if a couselor actually gives you techniques before you leave then you need to see a different person. If they just want you to keep going back and keep talking about "finding the root of the problem" you have a bad counselor.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #12 on: Jun 20th, 2004, 11:04pm » |
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I know exactly what Ramon means !!!!! I went into a severe depression when my two freinds were killed........couldn't get over it......got a little paronid about shit cuz they got taken out horribly. My doc sudgested counselling........my insurence said they would pay for so many sessions. So........the lady theropist spent most of her time lettin me talk and cry myself silly about what I was so depressed about till I wore myself out on the subject and got myself over it 'somewhat'....but "she" was obsessed with watching the clock behind me and it irritated me BIG TIME BAD.......you could be in the middle of talkin about SUMTHING and she'd say we had to rap it up and MAKE me come back in two weeks!!! She KEPT talkin me into more sessions.......convinced me I needed em......I was worried about my insurence but they'd called them as part of the deal and insured me it was ok. Turned out my insurence did "not" pay most of it and I got stuck with a big ass bill and was over charged on top of it all........plus she threaten'd to turn me int collections......which depressed me MORE.........she got me on antidepressants that made me gain 20 lbs and took my sole. I was mentally numb......no emotions. But....I got thru it and over it........(no more meds for it even tho they are excellent for alot of people)....but it was a long haul. Good thing I was sane or strong enuff to handle all that crap she put me thru or I would of jumped off a bridge Pam
Yeah.......if ya are really depressed seek help......just be careful.........havein someone to talk to can do wonders but it takes time.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #13 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 1:01am » |
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I've been seeing a therapist for 4 years now. She has saved my life. Depression,from what I understand it to be, is not the feeling of being "trapped" or upset and sad,but the steady and gradual absence of emotion all together as a result of experiencing negative emotions for prolonged periods of time. I don't take anti-depression medication. When I feel depression sinking its teeth into me I have tools that I a can use. It's an everyday practice for me. If I get lazy because things are going well or I'm busy as hell,it comes back. It's not simply a matter of "getting over it" suicide is a very real thing. It's not simply a cry for help. it's a result of severe depression.
Cluster headaches SUCK. Losing a family member is gut wrenching. Depression is something different...(To me anyway). Life is a gift givin to us for a short time and must be given back at some point to be experienced by the next generation of people. I respect and honor that now. Some of us get clusters,some of us are born without the use of their eyes,and some bodies work perfectly until the end. Who knows why? I'm tired of asking.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #14 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 1:33am » |
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I don't think I need a counselor but a fairy godmother.
Anyone have a number to one of those?
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #15 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 9:26am » |
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Mark... you must have a great one... good for you... Cootie and others... I hear you about the watching the clock thing... My daughter has a mood disorder and we have been to more than one counsellor with her... I think the secret is to talk... talk talk... find someone sympathetic and talk... How many great ideas did a counsellor give you that you didnt already have inside... Most of it is common sense... I am a true believer in COUSELLING (SP?) BUT WHO SAYS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A DIPLOMA BEHIND THEIR DESK..........???
LOVE TO YOU ALL REE............. PS I HAVE A GREAT SHOULDER AND A BIG HEART!!!!!!!!! IF YA NEED ME CALL!
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Re: Depression get help for it!
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on Jun 21st, 2004, 1:33am, juvy wrote:I don't think I need a counselor but a fairy godmother.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #17 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 10:01am » |
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During my first attack of CH's the Neuro suggested that I was suffering from depression and anxiety. For which he prescribed Celexa. I think this made things only worse for me...I was soooo happy all the time that I just didn't care about anything else, I was 'emotionally numb'. I bacame very careless and dangerous...to myself.
I got laid a lot more often then...hmmm
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 10:32am » |
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I have been going through counseling for 6 months now...and I have learned more about me than I ever knew in 41 years...and it is the greatest tool I have in making decisions now...I have benefited deeply..and I'm just about on track with my life now thanks to it. Luke
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #19 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 7:31pm » |
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I should clarify my original statements in this thread...I do not mean to imply that counseling is worthless...it can be a very usefull tool to help people.
But as cootie and I both said...ya gotta be carefull who ya get from. I loved my shrink at first...and then the insurance and money issues came into play.
As it stands now...I cannot get an appt. to see her again until my bill is paid. What is upsetting about this is that she put me on meds that cannot simply be stopped and have to be tapered down from. I cannot get my RX filled without seeing her first, and I have to be paid up to do that. It is clear to me, that my money is primary to my mental health in the eyes of her practice. IT IS WRONG...should I have a mental breakdown tomorrow, can I sue her for getting me addicted to meds and then refusing to see me because of my financial status???? Maybe so...but its doubtfull that I would win.
This MB (which is free) has provided more help and mental support for me than she ever did, and that my friends is worth its weight in gold.
I don't discredit the need for emotional support in times of need nor the benefits of counseling...I merely question the method of its delivery...if you are in need of emotional support, get it for certain...but be carefull how and from whom you seek it.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #20 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 8:27pm » |
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I, too, am here today because of getting help....not a typical path, but who has a "typical" path? You may just call this the whining of a then-teenager, but it was a lot more than that. I was an emotional wreck. I had support in my high school through guidance counselor, secretary, crisis counselor, and choral teacher. And a few more people thrown in there, too!! My parents did not want me to go to a therapist under any circumstances. It wasn't until I had a "breakdown" and stopped my car shortly from flipping it into a tree, did they let me talk to someone. They didn't know that. They still don't know the whole story. Anorexia, depression, anxiety... it was my own personal hell.
And it made me sick, too. I developed IBS, insomnia, fibromyalgia. I slept maybe 3 hours a night and I weight less than 100 pounds. I had at least 3 ulcers going on in my mouth at any one time from the stress. My hair changed texture because I was so zapped. My best friend sent me a suicide note and then didn't talk to me for 3 days when I tried to get him help.
Why am I sharing this? Well...everyone around me thought that I had it all. I was valedictorian, I was in a hundred different clubs. I had friends, and I always got good grades. Didn't matter to me. What I still wouldn't have given to have my house blow up around me... I was never so miserable.
It wasn't my family's fault. They were wonderful. I think the reason I never speak of it is because of t he guilt. I feel guilty for what I put them through, and I never ever want them to think it was their fault. I was fighting a battle that nobody could envision.
So I had a very wonderful counselor who helped me to talk it out. Some days I danced around it and talked about stupid shit. Once she made me read the suicide note my friend had sent me. That was pretty rough. My guidance counselor at school made me tell my parents that I didn't want to live. That didn't go over t oo well!
Moral of the story, that lady really helped me. The other t hing that helped me was getting on to college. I found that I could manage. The IBS is at bay and the mouth ulcers have gone away. Still have the fibro, and I know my headache problems weren't brought on by all that emotional stress.
I went to a few different counselors when I was in college. For the most part, I felt it was crap and I usually quit pretty fast. I went because of the problems coping with chronic pain while in school. That didn't help me. Ultimately what helped me was acceptance. I learned to be okay with who I am. I still get frustrated by my weight and by a whole host of other things, but I have learned to get a handle on it a lot better.
I do see a psychiatrist and psychologist once in a great while through the headache center. Last summer I went regularly because I needed it quite a bit. Was never able to be very open about things, though. This is the first time I have told my story in over 5 years. (yeah!! woohoo big step for me!)
I still think I could benefit from counseling, but I can't afford it right now. Maybe again I will at some point. I've developed a lot bettter self-coping techniques that I never had before when i was a little younger. And I have you all, who help me so much.
Sorry for rambling on so much!!
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Re: Depression get help for it!
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on Jun 21st, 2004, 10:32am, Luke63 wrote:| I have been going through counseling for 6 months now...and I have learned more about me than I ever knew in 41 years...and it is the greatest tool I have in making decisions now...I have benefited deeply..and I'm just about on track with my life now thanks to it. Luke |
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #22 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 11:14pm » |
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A good counseler is not supposed to be a talking self help book. I think I've spent $100s on self help books over the years and they don't do it for me. 
Good advise is priceless and I try my hardest to listen to it,but advise is not how I was taught to process anxiety,sadness and depression. She taught me to find what's already there. Strength,love,courage.
When we have a medical problem(Clusters) we need advise. It's linear,logical problem solving skills that we need to tap into. But emotional problems(in my humble opinion of course) need to be addresed through the soul,inner light,whatever you feel comfortable calling it. Not through fortune cookies. Not when you're facing(or running away from) things that make you wish you just were'nt around anymore. You know....serious shit.
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Re: Depression get help for it!
« Reply #23 on: Jun 21st, 2004, 11:28pm » |
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Anyone ever notice how you can be hoppin along one day all happy and nice and all of a sudden somethng wierd happens.....like a rude comment or event.......and then you go into some sort of anti-social episode. You look at the world upside down for a while Pam
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Re: Depression get help for it!
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