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Where have all the .... gone?
« on: Apr 12th, 2004, 2:09am » |
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Reading Simon's happy BD to ch.com post got me thinking. (Yeah, the brain is old but can still fire up a thought now and then.) Where have some of the original ch.com regular posters gone. I'm thinking about those that were here prior to March , 1999, when I found my home, but are long gone. There was Ueli, Linda B, Drummer, Todd, Nancy from Texas (miss the Saturday funnies), Lars and many more. And who can forget BETA BLOCKERS, magnets and some other miracles to "cure" CH.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #1 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 7:10am » |
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Hey Kip,
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #2 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 2:21pm » |
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guess it's a question we may never get answers to!!
but....
in the meantime..............
there are lots of GREAT people here NOW
pf wishes,
hoping I ain't still considered a newbie, but who cares,
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #3 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 2:30pm » |
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I talk to drummer every now and then.
He says he'll come back when you all get over yourselfs!
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #4 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 2:33pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 2:30pm, Bob P wrote:I talk to drummer every now and then.
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Okay everybody, either get over yourself or play with yourself so drummer can come out of hiding.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #5 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 3:20pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 2:30pm, Bob P wrote:I talk to drummer every now and then.
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Glad to hear that he is still around. 
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #6 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 3:23pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 2:30pm, Bob P wrote:| I talk to drummer every now and then. |
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He owes me $5 and a blank cassette tape, what was I thinking wanting to hear that crap music of his.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #7 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 3:25pm » |
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O.K. It was hard, but I am officially "over myself"
Now, will you come back Drummer?
and Jack, and Ueli, and Ted?
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #8 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 3:27pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 3:25pm, Linda_Howell wrote:
O.K. It was hard, but I am officially "over myself"
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #9 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 4:21pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 3:27pm, echo wrote:
ME -- I'm under myself.
My hangy down things are huge from this angle.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #10 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 4:45pm » |
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I'm beyond myself and tryin to catch up......the dog chaseing tail syndrone ! Pam that is not above but jus beyond
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 5:07pm » |
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And they are still leaving and will continue to leave, until we get our shit straight here....... Come on WAKE UP people......  I'm tired of seeing good people leave this place because of sheer stupidity. I will not leave the only person that can make me leave is DJ, but the amount of craziness and attacks and politics are becoming quite old and boring, lets knock of the horse play and get back to work. Flame shields up.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #12 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 5:20pm » |
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Thomas..... you may be too tall...but I like the way ya think! 
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #13 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 5:35pm » |
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Alotta them folks were here when I first came on the scene...I seem to remember a coupla them saying they were leaving, but as far as I know the rest have no excuse. Ueli just kinda seemed to drop off into obscurity...odd that.
Everyone threatens to leave at some point or another, and I remember having to develop quite a thick skin about alot of stuff.
Course Jonny is rather ugly, and I can imagine folks getting tired of that.... LMAO! I'm smiling while I say this.....really! 
You know yer da King, J. peace!
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 5:35pm, Cerberus wrote: You know yer da King, J. peace!
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Just so you know this is not an attack against jonny. He does more here than he will even take credit for.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
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Quote:| Just so you know this is not an attack against jonny. He does more here than he will even take credit for. |
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Agreed, True that.
I wouldn't wanna get misconstrued about it......ahem!  
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #16 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 10:07pm » |
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on Apr 12th, 2004, 5:07pm, thomas wrote:| And they are still leaving and will continue to leave, until we get our shit straight here....... Come on WAKE UP people...... I'm tired of seeing good people leave this place because of sheer stupidity. I will not leave the only person that can make me leave is DJ, but the amount of craziness and attacks and politics are becoming quite old and boring, lets knock of the horse play and get back to work. Flame shields up. |
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Ditto.
I got your back Thomas.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #17 on: Apr 12th, 2004, 10:27pm » |
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That's it... I'm leaving... Hey wait! Where's the door?!? OMG! I'm locked in with these crazy ppl! Let me out! LET ME OUT! NOOOOOOO!!!!
Okay... I'm better now... What were we talkin' about again? Oh yeah... Gettin' over myself... So are ya over me yet?
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #18 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 4:34pm » |
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I have been purposefully absent for quite a while. And I have been perusing this site as a guest (i.e. not signed on) to see what I could see. And I have some thoughts on this.
Bullet points are more effective. Shall we begin?
Good.
The missions of this site as well as the overall mission of OUCH have been lost.
It is a FACT that OUCH's current leadership (for want of a better word) has lost sight of what its purpose is. This is an organization whose sole purpose is to edify, change perception of, sway public policy regarding, and lobby for more pertinent research as they relate to cluster headaches. It is NOT to foster a playground-like atmosphere. It is NOT to judge the ideas of the populace based on their own bizarre machinations (Tommy Thompson ring a bell?). Let me give you an example: The report on the 2003 Convention? Use the Spell Check. Hire a kid from the local college down the road to edit it. Publishing what you did was a discredit to OUCH and therefore a discredit to me. And I speak and write perfectly. Policy makers in congress ,CEOs of Insurance Companies? They know the English language.
Is this an elitist position? Perhaps. But the bottom line is that you are at the forefront of an organization who NEEDS these policy makers. They are not going to associate themselves with imperfection. They are not going to associate themselves with an organization which can change the public's perception of them. When you are wearing your OUCH hat, it needs to be a professional one. You need to be in your suit. You need to have your Brooks Brothers' loafers on and you need to be pressing palms and slapping backs.
To that point, I think there needs to be a discernible, clear, concise, and ruthless line between CH.com and OUCH. Some of the back-biting I have seen on this board is unconscionable. Publishing PERSONAL and slanderous attacks toward individuals in a public forum such as this one is unforgivable. Were I the admin, each personal attack would result in a permanent banning (and a ban to your IP address too) until doomsday. And let this be a lesson to you all who read this: You have rights. A slanderous (or, in this case I guess it's libelous) attack here warrants legal action. Someone does that to me and you will have the full force of my attorneys and what influence and money I have on you like white on rice. I will take everything you own. Forever. And trust me, forever is a long time. Know too that jonny calling me an "fuckwit" (and I have no doubt he is doing that right now) does not fall into this category. You know what does. I'll leave it at that.
Do you want to know why long-time people have left this site? It is because maybe, just maybe, they have had enough. You can scream the litany of "family" to me until you are blue in the face. You can say "I'll never leave here" (and may I add that saying you'll never leave here for the sake of simply NOT leaving is a stupid position. It reeks of mediocrity). No matter how you feel, let's keep in mind that the mission of OUCH and CH.com is to educate and support. Keep them separate. Stop being glib. Have some self-discipline.
And while we are at it, you want to use CH.com as a place to meet folks? Have some friends? Go ahead. NO problem. I think that's a good thing. Keeps things fresh. But if you are out there and you are reading my private messages and are logging to whom I speak on this site and then USING that against me? I'll see you in court and/or you should be banned. You are taking the GUTS away from this place.
And if anything...IF ANYTHING...I remain steadfast in my belief that the folks who have CHs have guts. I have seen guts here. I will continue to. But if you politicize and endanger these people from showing those guts and for fighting the GOOD fight with your pansy-ass personal politics, then you are a coward and I will see you in hell. CH is bad enough as it is.
Last point.
Come one, come all in responding to this. I dare you.
Your silence will be deafening.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #19 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 5:04pm » |
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OK. Here's my opinion.
1. Huh?
2. I think the leadership of OUCH is doing a great job with what they have to work with. They are all volunteers with jobs, families and homes to care for. If they were earning $100,000+ salaries it might be a different story.
3. This is DJ's website. Not mine. Not yours. Not OUCH's. DJ makes the rules and we do not dictate the rules to him.
4. OUCH has a website. If someone has a gripe with OUCH they can take it there.
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Care to modify that to correct the punctuation?
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
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BY, Interesting points. I concur on most but not all.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #21 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 5:44pm » |
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I agree with a lot of it as well, except of course, the part about me being mediochre.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
« Reply #22 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 5:52pm » |
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Sometimes folks just find ways to be "fed up". It's their perogative. I can only hope that the clusterheads gone but not forgotten know how much they are missed and how important each and evey one of them continues to be.
I never met DJ. He's the guy who set this joint up ya know. It's my understanding that he set this place up out of his own experience with clusters in the hopes that others would show up, mebbe shed some lite... And they did. At first, it was a few couragious people - they came together through cyberspace and worked and worked and worked together to create where we are all now at. After all is said and done, anyone who suffers from cluster headaches KNOWS how lucky they are to arrive here. It's just too damn important for us to be all on the same page, both for the comfort and the opportunity to make a difference in the future.
BobG is ABSOLUTELY right.
Brian Y, not everyone will see eye-to-eye. But I TINK if we keep our eye on the TIGER the rest will eventually settle.
*This is the house that DJ built. It provides a place we as sufferers can come together and share what we are, past and present. It brings us together so that we can forge a future WITHOUT clusters.
One more thing. This is NOT a friendship board. No one here is freaking OBLIGATED to be PALS. It's for CLUSTER SUFFERERS and their SUPPORTERS. PERIOD.
I am missing more and more of them. It's not freaking RITE!
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
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I do not claim perfection in any way.... That being said, lets get to the point of my reply.
I agree completely with BobP here: Quote:. I think the leadership of OUCH is doing a great job with what they have to work with. They are all volunteers with jobs, families and homes to care for. If they were earning $100,000+ salaries it might be a different story.
3. This is DJ's website. Not mine. Not yours. Not OUCH's. DJ makes the rules and we do not dictate the rules to him.
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Now for the rest: Quote:| And I speak and write perfectly |
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Um....false only one of several grammatical and punctuation errors.
Quote:| But the bottom line is that you are at the forefront of an organization who NEEDS these policy makers. They are not going to associate themselves with imperfection. They are not going to associate themselves with an organization which can change the public's perception of them. When you are wearing your OUCH hat, it needs to be a professional one. You need to be in your suit. You need to have your Brooks Brothers' loafers on and you need to be pressing palms and slapping backs. |
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I hear alot of accusation and see no action, is this an offer?...put up or shut up.
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Non-sequitur your facts are uncoordinated. (at least according to the first paragraph of the meaty part of your post.
Quote:| And let this be a lesson to you all who read this: You have rights. A slanderous (or, in this case I guess it's libelous) attack here warrants legal action. Someone does that to me and you will have the full force of my attorneys and what influence and money I have on you like white on rice. I will take everything you own. Forever. |
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This not only contains a grammatical error, but could be construed as a direct threat that could be contested in court. Not beneficial to whatever case you were compiling I bet.
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Remember...you asked under the guise of perfection.
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Re: Where have all the .... gone?
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on Apr 13th, 2004, 4:34pm, Brian_Y wrote:
let's keep in mind that the mission of OUCH and CH.com is to educate and support. Keep them separate. Stop being glib. Have some self-discipline. |
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D^A,
Just a point which I seem unclear about. Does this exerpt mean that OUCH is for educating and CH.com for
support? I am guessing that is the portrayal drawn. For now, being this is my take on what I've read, I wish to simply respond with that interpretation perceived, unglibly.
I have been undisciplined by supporting someone's views on the OUCH board. I have been guilty of being educated on the CH.com message board. I try to be disciplined.
I don't comprehend so well either,
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